2023, The Year Of Disappointing Na Content....

It's the truth!!!

 

I am sure the new US route that is around the corner should be a great route. I definitely hope it is what I think it is

 

Why do you care about such inappropriate topics on this forum though?

 

I didn't make an inappropriate remark, you interpreted that way, then that's on you.

 

You started it, so its on you.
(BTW I reported your comment anyway, so we'll let DTG's staff handle it and see what they think of it)

 

The recent update brought passengers back to NY-Trenton. That was good news, but there are too few passengers getting on the train. I am driving to carry only 3 passengers. The train company will probably go bankrupt.

 

Definitely a very immature and troll baiting statement. Please try and maintain a decent decorum in the forums, such claptrap is not needed .

 

Okay I'm gonna say this. The reason why imo NA content has been very disappointing is because there is no pleasing BOTH sides. Let's just say this if the next American Route is a freight one a lot fo people will be on the forms VERY unhappy, and the same will go for the passenger side. Even if we do get a route that is Passenger AND Freight, everyone loses at the end of the day

 

???

 

Because they're pulling tiny little trains.

 

Or maybe economy of your european country is not even close enough to be in need for such developed and enormous rail freight industry?

 

No, the NA content has been very disappointing simply because it's low quality. Many US routes have no proper safety systems (sometimes not even the alerter can be turned on), rolling stock is sparse, scenery is usually the worst out of all the big three countries and add-ons make no sense quite a lot of times (F7 with modern rolling stock, BNSF SD70 with thunder cab with freight cars that are not used in the timetable, etc).

In comparison, the UK and Germany keep getting routes that look pretty good and even if they have weak rolling stock variety by themselves, you will have like 6 other routes layering into them to fill in the gaps, also sometimes many train add-ons that actually make sense (like SEHS). And of course safety systems tend to be modelled on european routes properly (even if sometimes a bit buggy).

 

I don’t think it’s a necessarily a route selection issue or freight vs passenger. It’s an issue of a lot of NA routes being subpar vs UK/EU routes.

They don’t do NA freight particularly great. But they also don’t seem to do NA signaling and safety systems particularly well either.

If you’re inconsistent at both of those, well, that’s not a recipe for good content.

The good news is that this cactus guy does great work with signals and safety systems though and he’s working on the next route… he turned Boston Sprinter into a great route… and so I would assume that his involvement in the project would indicate a passenger route with working safety systems.

That leaves me optimistic. And I think generally NA fans would probably just be ecstatic with a good route at this point.

 

The fact that Brandon is helping DTG with there next American route... Makes me think that the next Route is gonna be based out of NY again or Another part of NEC

 

Cactus is a very talented person who I have a lot of respect for. His work on U.S content is very appreciated because it fixes a lot of what Dovetail leaves out at launch. I stayed far away from Boston Sprinter because of its signaling problems, but after it received the new lighting and reworked signaling, it was a no brainer for me. All thanks to Cactus!

 

Let’s hope it’s not another New York - Trenton Nightmare

 

I thought it was for "Canyon"

 

No- cajon in Spanish means "box," but in geography refers to a basin enclosed by mountains. (That's right, a man's cojones are his little "boxes")

 

It seems recently that, whenever we try to have an intelligent conversation about the US content of TSW, some troll feels the need to interject some childish and inappropriate remarks.

 

It probably will be

 

You learn something new every day...

 

But cajon and cojon are different words. You sure this isn't another cajon /cajun mix-up?

 

No, because the vulgar term "cojones," testicles, isn't derived from a legitimate noun "cojon," which doesn't exist. It's just a vulgarity which branched off a bit from the original, like bollocks from balls. (although boll happens to be a word, it's not connected)

 

All fascinating, I'm sure, and a real test of the DTG filter.

But can we get back to the real subject of the thread before a moderator closes it down.

We've allowed a childish troll to derail the thread.

 

Can you share where these fixes/mods can be found??

 

They aren't mods. Cactus worked for DTG to upgrade the route. The new Lighting (TOD4) and new signaling are part of the route now.

 

So, I will say there is a slight bit of hope for US loco content in the future for TSW, depending on how this goes. Ricardo Rivera has made a post in the PC editor discussion about setting up vehicles in the editor.
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/vehicle-template.77654/

For those who don't know, Ricardo Rivera is also known as Reppo, who has done alot of 3rd party and contract work for DTG on TSC for the US side of things, and he has alot of experience with US stock.

His own offerings are usually pretty good and are decent quality. He has made the following for TSC....

EMD GP20 (UP,SP,BN, and WP)
Baldwin Centipede
New Haven E-33
MTA M2
GE E60

Outside of these few offerings, he's also worked with DTG on numerous US DLC's for contract work on their own products, though these are usually not up to the same quality as his own stuff.

He has worked on at least the following locos from DTG (Based on Manuals)

M7 (Long Island Railroad)
GE AC4400CW (Tehachapi Pass)
Unknown (Peninsula Corridor Gilroy extension)
Unknown (NJC & Morristown)
Unknown (Marias Pass)
Unknown (Donner Pass)
EMD SD9043MAC (Loco DLC)
EMD GP60 (Loco DLC)
EMD GP40-2 Pack (Loco DLC)
EMD E8 (Loco DLC)
EMD FP7/F9 (CZ Pack)
EMD F40PH (Loco DLC)
MTA M8 (Loco DLC)
NJT Arrow III (Loco DLC)
UP GTEL (Loco DLC)
GE Dash 8-40C (Loco DLC)
GE U36C (Loco DLC)

But having Reppo on TSW would be a big boost for US based locos.

 

Completely agree with you Max.
American freight railroading is the most efficient. It's part on freight transport ist 40 %. On the other side it produces 2 % of the carbon oxide emissions of all freight transport only.

 

I think the reason for the freight or passenger only american routes are optimization problems. For instance at New York Trenton and Antelope. At New York they canceled all freight. At Antelope there are 40 car freight trains only.

 

Statistics are cruel for pseudo idealistic environmentalists, yet they are still pushing for electricity everywhere... UE for instance is totally unpinned from reality, pushing for environmentaly meaningless electric transportation which doesnt make any positive ecological impact on planet (right now, all UE road transport emits less 3% global CO2) . UE will buy Chinese eclectrics to feed herself and China will emit even more CO2 (right now it is 36% of global CO2) to fill the markets... It is INSANITY in purest form

 

Welp, 2024 isn't off to a better start.....

 

What do think about San Bernardino Line? It would be a shame if DTG doesn't include BNSF. Especially the great BNSF Hubs on that route and BNSF freight Yard at San Bernardino. The BNSF trains could run relatively fast on that route.

 

Glad I didn’t waste money on TSW4…

 

Its not BNSF's mainline out of LA, thats on a different line. It really only sees local freight, maybe some yard transfers

 

Thank you for your information. Another question: It's commuting only? No Amtrak? Right?

 

Amtrak does not run on this line

 

Don't you want to run a train released 4 years ago in a straight line... but in a different colour?

 

2024 looks like very very conservative attitude, no bravery at all, just ordinary sale points....

 

US freight fans left in the cold again. :.both US routes in the pipeline passenger dominant ..DTG JUSSSSTTT dont understand freight is king here in US but they keep shoving passenger routes down our throats ...where i live there is only 2 Amtrack trains a day but plenty of Norfolk Southern and CSX freight trains ..seems too they cater more to UK crowd that hate US freight but demand passenger since passenger is dominant there and freight is not as heavy at least the germany routes have a good mix of both freight and passenger timetables scenarios layers ..dont get me wrong i dont hate passenger as a resident in US we are being denied freight content and its most dominant type of trains in US ..would be like DTG give UK mostly freight than passenger ...

 

Probably because the Freight companies don't work with DTG, so they can't get good audio and visual references. Every time they release a freight route people complain about the audio and other stuff, that they can't really fix as they can't get access.

Amtrak, Caltrain and Metrolink all work with DTG, so they get better sources, and make better routes.