It's a fantastic new design. I am surprised Hornby haven't realised one with the new livery yet tbh. I used to love the old 91 VTEC design, but probably prefer this one. I suppose it is down to whether we deem desirable to be 'one we really want' or a 'desiro'. DTG Matt Any chance of further hints please? Yes, especially given the 91 still operates in this era. I suppose when creating this route, the Azuma was the right choice as it is the current main locomotive, but the 91 must come - it is iconic. Would love to see an FLU 700. I suppose this may be easy to do in formation designer? Don't think it would be reasonable for them to release that as a new loco (I know this isn't what you're referring to). Re PCs - I think part of the problem comes from the library. The PC is of course a large expense, couple that with the need to repurchase content and it becomes a bit frivolous. I wish I'd started with a PC rather than a console however.
Maybe this is the moment that DTG prove they’re not only interested in modern day stuff, and release the much requested class 25. Anything but a modern EMU, please! I have a horrible suspicion, though, that Matt’s post hints at a Desiro. Hope I’m wrong.
Class 92 Dyson since it can do all UK OHLE/3rd rail route. Alternatively class 800/802 sluggish acceleration in diesel but fast under AC 25kv 50hz Going by Matt's hint a Desiro duo pack 350 & 380
Oh a 25 would be a dream come true and perhaps more importantly show that commitment to things other than the modern day stuff. I do think I must agree with whoever said something akin to this on the other page but a Desiro is really undesiroble.
They aren't exactly slugish things on diesel by any means, though they are bloody quick on the juice!
Where can I find Matts post? Let me get this straight, Matt saying its highly desirable means its a desiro. Gotcha. And where would this Desiro be running? Maybe 380 for Carthcart circle but thats about it. They have already said they dont plan on introducing the 700/1 and probably wont now that we are getting formation designer. The 444/450 makes no sense as theres no route for them to run on. 707 pointless. Lets think straight shall we guys
I actually run TSW4 on an i7 17" screen gaming laptop and it runs very well, still not cheap though. In theory the 700 FLU should be possible in formation designer. I just love the authenticity of the BML with all those 700's about.
I was thinking the same thing, no place for a Desiro to land really, only to form a bit of ai action on the west side of Clapham Jct and even then I don't think DTG have the SW Railway license unfortunately. What has been requested over and over again? I think either a new UK freight loco or a Class 91.
The desiro hint seems to be quite explicit but like other I'm failing to see an obvious candidate as to what it would be. Personally I'd like an actual locomotive and one we'd get good value out of being seen across a range of eras and regions. Something to sub-in for the endless cavalcade of 66's on freight too. I'm thinking of class 56's, 60's or even 67's. Anything built in the 20th century would be a bonus too!
A 67 would layer into a number of routes. A 153 could layer in. A 50 would be desirable, if JT announce Riviera Line
If it is another "Desiro" style unit very disappointing and as discussed limited scope of operations within the existing route collection. "Desirable" in the wider context could mean one of the many requested items - a Class 56, 60 or 70 to enhance the modern freight scene or even better as mentioned a Class 25. Also whether or not they literally mean "loco" as DTG do have a habit of using that to encompass all types of traction including MU's. If it's for an existing route there are probably a few we can rule out, such as BML where we didn't even get the Classs 700 layered due to fragility of the route and timetable.
'desirable' means either: A) Another southern UK route, which is unlikely. B) It's either the Class 91 or another freight loco.
It's obvious from reading this thread that everyone wants the Class 91 myself included, but it would be a very expensive train to make so I have my doubts. I hope I'm wrong honestly but I think it will be something else.
I don't see how/why it'd be that much more difficult than the 801 or 125 tbh. Other than maybe the blunt end, so three cabs.
Your all looking into it too deply. Its something alot of people are asking for. Ive not seen anyone solely asking for a desiro. 91 on the other hand, yes. I would be surprised if it is the 91 as thay mean DTG are finallt starting to connect with and listen to their community
If it is the 91 I do hope Z-Fighting will be fixed ASAP, I’ll be gutted a ton if I need to skip on the 91 because of it, I just can’t justify anymore purchases until I can guarantee my other content hasn’t gone down the drain (and that the new isn’t going the same way )
Can you give me a simple example of Z-fighting in the game please? I’ve searched it after reading some of your previous posts, but don’t understand it. Thanks
Basically certain and the same each time (usually labels or screen buttons) textures flicker like crazy for the whole journey, non stop once the train gets moving, Xbox only the technical side is more to do with they fight to be the one that’s shown over the one that’s underneath
Matt using the word desirable wasn’t an accident I think. That’s exactly the kind of wordplay they use to hint at things. Think it’s now a question of which Desiro it is. It’s only a loco add on so it fits on an already existing route.
I mean DTG have a very different view of what people are asking for. They’ve said multiple times that things were popular requests that really didn’t seem to be from viewing the forums.
I had a look on these forums anyway, it seems to be mainly folk with Scotrail stock as their pics, pushing the 380 for Cathcart during the last year. I have no clue of the demand on other platforms. Ech I'd like to hope they weren't that out of touch to ignore the 91 completely, even if it's not this upcoming loco. It's blasphemy to call yourself a UK railfan if that's the case.
There have been several 380 suggestions in the past. A quick google search should do. Not something suggested everyday, but there are people interested
if you’re right, and you might well be, then it’s a 380 on the Cathcart Circle. That would be underwhelming to me.
I can't honestly think of a UK loco they could add that I would be more underwhelmed by haha. We are already going to have four Scotrail trains in the game, not sure we need a fifth currently.
There’s really too many things that are popular requests on the forum to say for certain. Could be anything from a number of requests. The hint being for a desiro is misleading IMO, it could only really be a 380, and I don’t think that’s very desirable at all, the only time there has been real conversation about it was when we thought Rivet were teasing one. The Class 91 is obviously a very popular request since ECML dropped, but 3 cabs in 1 DLC? I don’t see it happening - they wouldn’t give the 101 2 cabs & even in their new announcements they’ve chopped off consists (OBB 1st Class). I think if we go off this forums requests only, we will be seeing a new modern loco. Even DTG must be thinking it’s getting out of hand with how many 66’s we have. If I had it my way we’d get a 68/88 either in saltire for the Fife Circle or DRS for mixed use. A 67 would be nice too but I think the potential use for that is much more limited than the former. Of course we have to then remember requests outside of this forum exist too, and there is the other side of the coin where DTG have proven before that they’re not very in sync with what the community wants to see.
Cutting off trains simply because they have more than 2 cabs is extremely lazy and disappointing. I knew DTG was a bare minimum company but thats way too far. I have a feeling that if they gave us the 91 it would be without the blunt end being functional
Sorry, I've clearly missed alot. Where is this hint about a desiro? Are people still banging on about rivet posting about the Barrhead line or is this something else?
SWR could be hard to get as that is First Group but SWT should be a but easier no? Wouldn't obtaining the license be similar to how they got EMT? Would be a bit disappointed if it's a 380. Would be nice to have the 350 (especially in the various liveries) as it would layer on nicely on a few routes, and sets us up nicely for a future WCML modern route.
Wasn't there a rumor of a 156/153 or a 320/1/2 in development? Could likely be one of those? Could be a 380 for a remastered/ updated CCL with a mixture of 314 and 380s Could be a I7C HST by a 3rd party for Rivet's Fife Circle Could be the 323's replacement, to go into BCC. Skyhook's rep also said about 'suggest the class *60?*' and they'll consider it. So could even be that?
He said he enjoyed pouring petrol on the fire and reading our comments with popcorn. Sounds like it may be deliberately misinterpret-able (I know this isn't a real word)
I'm going to go on a whim here and say the word desirable was deliberate, but not in the way we may think. But all we can do is wait and see I guess.
I'm hoping Matt just couldn't think of another way to say it's something that we all want so he used the first word that came to his keypad, because otherwise it's going to become the Un-desiro I think.
*If* the UK Loco is to tie into Matt's reference to a ScotRail collection, then; 156 - no route for it [would work for Midland Mainline] 153 - likewise, needs the WHL [would also work for Midland Mainline] 321 - would work for Cathcart 380 - would work for Cathcart HST - works for Fife Circle (kinda) and as AI for EDN [probably needs Dundee - Aberdeen or something]
Alex talked re the 'certain UK loco'. It's gotta be a 91, just the way they reacted to the messages in the chat about it means it cannot not be imo. Going to be a tense few months waiting for updates!
wouldn’t the 153 work for midland mainline as well. Also the 153 on WHL would only work on that when coupled up to a 156 they don’t run solo or double 153 on whl.
ah I was confused as you said likewise needs the WHL as the 156 didn’t have the WHL mentioned you mentioned the midland mainline. why I asked thanks though.
