In all fairness last year we were all speculating the ECML:South, and DTG threw a curveball and revealed Peterborough to Doncaster!! So you never know exactly what DTG will offer!!
Whatever it is i am sure it will have the usual moans and groans on here and those that will love it. Thats the beauty of this sim there is always something for everyone. Giving the announcements the other night on the stream it is certainly a great looking year for TSW
For what reason exactly? For dual mode trains Electric to diesel they move slower on Diesel but quick in AC mode
Ok then Matt but I based it from an ALP-45DP sluggish on diesel but quick on AC mode. I visit Newark Penn followed by Annandale High Bridge on the RVL
Slower doesn't mean "sluggish". The "sluggish" one on diesel mode is the 801. Fun Fact: ALP-45DPs are in no way at all comparable to 800/802 units.
How about something for Brighton Main Line? Class 73 Gatwick Express. Class 442 Wessex Class 460 Juniper aka "Darth Vader" The Class 73 could also be used on the new Scottish routes on sleeper services with a Class 92.
I really like the idea of a 73, one of my favourite trains. I wonder how hard it is to use a TSC in TSW. The 73 and 460 already have brilliant models and texturing (courtesy of Mr Masterkey Simulations), so I feel like modelling wise you wouldn't have to do a lot of work on either of them to please a lot of us!! I'd like to see a 92 later down the line, maybe when we have WCML, although I think it will be a while before we get that. The 92 would have good use there, running the Caledonian Sleeper, and can also be used for freight operations across OHLE and 3rd Rail land, with the livery in GBRf or DB colours. I'd like to see the 442 on a route out of Waterloo.
None of those are particularly desirable though. Realisticly speaking if 'desirable' is a play on Desiro, it's likely the 380 and a reworked CCL.
The 442 would certainly be popular. 73 less so I agree. The 460 was such a failure that I wouldn’t be surprised if not many people knew that thing even existed. The desirable thing does pretty much only lean to the 320, the only other realistic option is the 350 for BCC (which id hazard would be more popular). I don’t think I’ve seen any real call for a 320, certainly not on Cathcart, I especially don’t see a need for Cathcart to be reworked, scenically it’s pretty solid & theres not much at all they could add into it.
The state of BML at the moment I don't think it'll be for that route. I know DTG have said a lot about how BML is in desperate need of optimization passes when the 700 released before anything else can be added
My top 3 WLTS relevant to gameplay potentaI of existing routes. 1/ Class 25 with a mixed freight pack i.e. unique waggons 2/ Class 73 with some form of DVT and a small selection of departmental stock 3/ Class 55 with a pulman set Im not saying I believe this to be likely simply my logical pick.
I'll be honest mate I haven't a clue about that train at all. I would assume that, that train is different then (perhaps a loco rather than MU) because what I do know is the 800s and 802s are not sluggish on the diesel. Slower than on the juice but not sluggish by any means. Perhaps the train you mention is more comparable to some thing like an 88 if it's a loco, though I have no clue what they are like on diesel to be honest so couldn't make a fair judgement, or if it's an MU, as Train sim player says above, an 801 which are painfully slow on the diesel (especially the /2s) compared to the juice. Though if you see it, you can't unsee it.
pretty’s sure the 73 would require its own route, the current one is surely too modern, and did the 377 even run with them ? Sounds like an empty route if not. I’m sure the other 2 would require separate timetables, as much as I want to see the 442 especially on BML, I can’t see them doing another 4000 services timetable for a loco addon unfortunately.
Class 25 would be very welcome and so would class 50, and for freight a class 56 cant beat the sound of them at full thrash.
Might be able to clone the timetable provided it’s the same, if not then it’s a new timetable required, there would also be question of if that loco can fit into them slots, it’s shown to be fiddly with stuff like that before.
It is strange as there is an excellent mod on TSC that adds the 700 and totally changes the route immersion seeing them running around and being able to drive them.
I think mods have much more leeway on what they can damage in the process of implementing, though I’m honestly not sure on much to do with mods and TSW.
If I am correct I don’t think the person who made the mod removed any of the “default” trains from the timetable and just added the 700 into the timetable.
Could be another 37 variant On a serious note, it could be a 222 for MML but a 91 would be amazing, especially in LNER's most recent livery for it. Although unfortunately, I think it could hinder gen 8 performance, I haven't been able to complete a 158 service on ECML yet (but that is on the full timetable). But it would still be great to see.
I’d take a new freight loco or a 91 about equally in all honesty, tough call. But they know what to do next now don’t they?
I always find it funny when they won’t announce their own projects. They’ve told us a UK loco is coming in 6 months. They should be held to this as much as if they named the loco. And they’ll already know what it is. But naming it would be really helpful so to know what to expect. I get it generates ‘hype’ as people wonder what it will be, but it actually really frustrates me. I want to know if it is a 91 or not so I can then just get on with my life accordingly until the release date rather than constantly in the back of my mind wondering whether it will be or not. I have a strong ‘bond’ with the 91 as I have some quite personal memories linked to it so it’s in my mind more than other releases.
I agree with you, generally more details need to come sooner. There is a deep seated issue with the development time frames though, the rumoured LIRR V2 should have been on the horizon by now but has been hit by a licensing issue. So it seems to me the way it works is either DTG are building first and asking permission later, or they’re scared of losing backing between the development & release. There’s also DTGs own reasoning which I don’t really buy, they’re hesitant to confirm things which might be cancelled. However they still cancel/delay/lie about things they have confirmed, so it’s no big difference IMO.
I'd rather they confirm it, even if it is cancelled later on. As long as they communicate that, and reasons why (if cancelled) its fine.
Even if they just gave us the code. They were good when we got those and could at least narrow what it might be down a bit.
I agree, I don’t see what keeping it hush hush really achieves other than to frustrate us all. It makes me wonder if they are fishing for ideas from us themselves? Like they were dipping their toes in the water to see if another Desiro would be acceptable for the community, now they know definitely not, in fact there’d be an uprising and we’d march on their offices! So no cheating, give us a proper new UK loco or else!
And if they done that people would complain as then they are expecting X YZ to be released and it’s cancelled and that causes problems as well. There is a very good saying. If you don’t know something you won’t be upset over something you don’t know”.
Yeah, I found those useful, why did they get rid of them? They never seem to be able to stick with a strategy for telling us about new content, changes every 5 mins
Yes, I did enjoy it too, and have no idea what happened to it. It revealed enough to get some close guesses, but not enough for the 'surprise' to be ruined.
When they showed the new roadmap, they mentioned of it being more forward facing and things can move around and change a lot. We've already seen content changed or removed from the roadmap.
Yea. I miss the codes. Ment we had a better idea of what it was gonna be and allowed us to figure it out and lead to more constructive speculation. Now days it's anyone's guess what a route/loco is gonna be.
It's not concrete evidence of course, but in the roadmap Q&A thread Alex brought up this unnamed loco specifically in reference to a modern day Class 66 alternative. This I believe was the only question in his final post on that thread that wasn't actually mentioned in the stream itself and is unique to that post.
Yeah I agree it's pretty suspicious wording, a new UK freight loco is sorely needed the question is which one and where would it go? For me well just look at my PFP
60 or one of the EuroDuals (68 moreso than the 88) would be most likely IMO. An 88 with a Tesco container rake would pretty flashy. 92 & 70 would be behind those, but it’s almost certainly got to be one of those.
Your PFP feels pretty plausible, a Class 60 can serve on both MML and TVL if released in the right livery. Plus given recent events and comments from the people of DTG themselves, it seems like revisiting the content of old routes is back on the table. Other guesses? ECML could perhaps see a Class 90. They're operated by DB Cargo who actually just last year announced that they'll be withdrawing the whole class because of energy costs, so it's probably a good chance to record and preserve them in the game. DTG clearly have continuing good relations with DB as well, given how many times they have been able to re-sell the EWS branding and each time requires a renewed licensing agreement, so that will be an easy thing for them to do. With DRS now on the table, a Class 57 could be possible. A Class 68 too, as this could be depicted in both DRS and in Scotrail for the sake of the new Fife Circle. My last guess would be a Class 67. Practically identical to the 66 (I think, correct me if not) apart from having European cabs instead of the Canadian-esque pseudo Class 58 cabs. A 67 could be used pretty much anywhere a 66 could (in terms of performance, not necessarily realism) and much like the 68 it would be especially good to have for Fife Circle.
I doubt it will be a 67, they’re seldom used on freight & DTG knows what we’re pandering for. A DRS 68 would be the most universal so hopefully it’s that. Would be nice to see a 67 in a pack with some EWS MK2’s. That would be a pretty great layer.
I would honestly pay good money for either option. Plus those EWS MK2s would have to be the later shape MK2Ds or onwards I believe, make the whole thing a sort of modern charter train pack. DRS Class 68s on the other hand, absolutely the most universal and in my personal opinion, far better looking too. Would it be too much to say it's our equivalent to the Vectron in some way? One thing I think we can rule out, unfortunate though it may be, is the Class 70. I would love to have it, one of the country's newest and most powerful freight locos. DTG have said that based on community feedback they're reluctant to do fictional liveries, and from what I know the 70 is only operated by Freightliner or Colas, neither of whom we have ever seen in this game.
