Out Now Wsr: Remaster, Next Core Update & Formation Designer Beta

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  1. hurleyboy

    hurleyboy Member

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    which content do you consider to be "half-arsed and effectively worthless"?
     
  2. Doomotron

    Doomotron Well-Known Member

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    • All steam content.
    • The BR101 which has blatant inaccuracies, the most major one being the ridiculous exclusion of the cab car.
    • Semmeringbahn with a pitiful amount of stock.
    • The Class 313 with an incorrect soundset and interior.
    • The completely empty and perpetually broken LIRR.
    • NEC New York and Trenton, both with their own major issues.
    • Maintalbahn, a buggy mess.
    • Oakville Subdivision, 2/3 the route it should have been.
    • Diesel Legends of the Great Western, although the biggest problem with it is the fact it exists and was released.
    • The BR187, Midland Main Line and Cane Creek (I know Skyhook made them, but the fact DTG allowed them to be released angers me to no end)
    • Despite enjoying it, the LGV route has insulting bad scenery.
    • West Cornwall Local and the BR204 (same point as the Skyhook content above)
    • The BR182 (primarily the original version but the later Dispolok version did not get a good reception so it's probably on this list as well)
    • The ROG Class 37, which is not only poorly modelled and textured and with bad sounds, but the Class 375 that comes with it has an interior that is completely inaccurate and does not appear to have been based on any interior a real 375 has ever had.
    • The RHTT pack which comes with an EWS Class 66 - GBRF, not DB, operate RHTT services in Kent.
    • The Class 465 with an interior that they got wrong three times.
     
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  3. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Well they can't get a gbrf license. I'm happy they still released it than not because it provides interesting gameplay. With brand new wagons and lots of new services and a low price, I think it's worth the price. Similar story with the rog. Provides unique services. Not necessarily worthless tbh
     
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  4. Doomotron

    Doomotron Well-Known Member

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    It's cheap, but I'm not convinced that releasing a completely incorrect pack is worse than releasing a partly incorrect (unbranded) one. Plus, while the 66 is used for RHTT services in Kent alongside 57s and 69s, the primary haulage for these trains are Class 73s. A full loco pack with a new 73 (which doesn't even need to be in GBRF livery as they have ones in BR Blue and other old liveries) would have made more sense, but that isn't what they did.
     
  5. solicitr

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    That really is a feast of nitpickery.

    The 101 is a superb locomotive; not including the cab car is indeed a grrrr! decision, but the locomotive itself is one of the best in TSW
    Austria is a new country and there is only so much OBB stock in existence. They are adding the Taurus, which is THE essential Austrian loco. How much more do you expect?
    Cane Creek is a very well done if unambitious route; yes, the reversed truck on the 4400 is a blunder (easily fixed via mod) and open hoppers for the dirt train were a cut corner worth complaining about; but the route is spectacular to look at and more challenging to drive than one would expect; the claim that it shouldn't have been released is simply piffle.
    I couldn't say what's "wrong" with it- the 465 is, again, a brilliant train; along with the 101 and Vectron one of the very best; and all I ever see is the cab anyway.
     
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    The class 465 interior isn't wrong besides the vestibule grab rails being the old version so I really have no idea what that guy is on about.
     
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    Complaining for the sake of complaining.
     
  8. ApollonJustice

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    This!
     
  9. Doomotron

    Doomotron Well-Known Member

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    Incorrect moquette throughout the train except in first class and by the toilets. They got it wrong with the initial DLC release, then when they ported the model to Train Simulator, then when they rereleased it for TSW3. I and many others pointed it out and a fix was made, but DTG never acknowledged the completely obvious and easy to fix issue that it was.

    As for the rest of it, call it nitpicking or not - I don't really care. Things that are wrong will still be wrong if I don't complain about it.
     
  10. marcsharp2

    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

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    So did you buy all those things you complained about?
     
  11. Doomotron

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    Almost all of them, yes. Some were refunded later on.
     
  12. OldVern

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    Slight bump, but seemed the best thread to put this sentiment. Having purchased the BMG Stanier Mogul for TSC in the WSR Anniversay sale, finally got round to taking a full run on the TSC WSR. Well with all due respect to the TSC route author, it just looks bare and bland compared to the richness and depth of colour and scenery on the TSW version. Even more so the remaster. Really made me appreciate the TSW iteration.

    If only we had the selection of locos to run on the TSW version that TSC does.
     
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  13. Doomotron

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    I think the WSR (both before and after the update) is one of the best examples of what TSW scenery can look like, and one of the limited number of instances where the TS version looks significantly worse. The JT version looks worse than the DTG version, but I expect that the Steam Sounds Supreme version is much much better.
     
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