Please feel free to share your unpopular opinions( or at least if you think they are unpopular). I will start. 1st. The Bakerloo line is kinda... boring. I know, I will get lots of hate, but driving through like 80% tunnel, is is just not really mine. This is why i didn't pick up the 1938 stock, even though this unit interests me. 2nd. Vorarlberg misses something Whilst Vorarlberg is a great route, I don't come back often to the timetable. I mostly play freeroam, becaurse the long distance journeys, beside the very short EN services, just are missing. Give us like some long distance and maybe a 110/103 railtour. Did a 110 AKE one( Freeroam on tt) and it just felt like what the route needed. 3rd. Rapid transit is fun, yes, I mean it. While the timetable is very bare bones, the route has good scenery and slow and fast running. Drive a cargo train in freeroam( recommend using OOB remover) and enjoy this quite different route!
Bakerloo would be better if there was AI traffic on the above ground and mainline portions. After watching some of the Video125 cab videos of the area it especially feels dead.
their is the 66 on the mainline edit: I don’t think anything else fits at the minute is HBK Hamburg I forget ?
I 100% agree with this one. Bakerloo is personally the worst route in the game, just because of how dull it is. I am not exactly sure of what else though as there seem to be a fair amount of people on here that I agree with on various things, such as more eras being needed, more routes away from London, no more SE Modern 3rd rail, etc. I think perhaps one is that I think SEHS is not a particularly great route.
well it’s the right thread for this each to their own of course but no I couldn’t ever say bakerloo is the worst, I’ve always seen others put in a lot of time in it aswell.
Apart from the SEHS comment, based on these forums I would actually say they are quite common opinions. Are you against Welsh routes, or 00s routes, would you like the SW 3rd rail network?
I'm one of those people, BKL is my most played route and it's the reason I started playing TSW in the first place, I was offered to be a beta tester but I declined at the time as I would've been unable to put time towards it.
Assuming it is priced correctly and I end up buying it, I could very much see the LO route taking that place. Like I say that is assuming I buy it, which in honesty the chances lean towards me not buying it.
I'm not against Welsh routes, I believe every country forming the United Kingdom should have representation in TSW including Northern Ireland, as for 2000's routes I love them and I've made posts advocating for them to be included in TSW, and lastly as for wanting more of the South Western 3rd Rail Network you've got me there
I think it offers a nice experience personally, though all plans to purchase any route post Blackpool are on hold until Z-Fight fix comes through, LO livery I’ve always liked and the route seems quite scenic and the end to end is always a great feature of any route.
personally I see DTG’s vision of one of the Big 3 to be Britain rather than U.K., I think they do to, NI from what I’ve seen seems rather different for one part, whereas Scotland and Wales share a lot of similarities for train operations minus national operators of ScotRail and TFW not sure whether that forms unpopular view or not though
Fair dos, I did try it with Joe's timetable and it were certainly better than before but still dull personally. I am really sorry but I see you mentioning Z fighting so much and I still can't get it into my mind what it is. It is an Xbox thing isn't it? I suppose that is an advantage of the LO route, though I would have been more enthusiastic if it were done with Sprinters and Turbos.
fair, fans of other kind of traction and service types are always going to have top routes what are different than others I think, my high speed fandom often faces opposition similarly yea seems Xbox only, it’s the decals mostly in the cab fighting to be on top over the desktop, results in flickering.
The main thing I disagreed with was your statement that BKL is 'the worst route in the game', but again this is the right thread for opinions such as those included in that quote of yours and I probably shouldn't of bothered saying anything!
Yes, as is known I adore BR Blue, but in the past year (feb23- feb24) my most driven routes (by miles) are MML, ECML, then NTP and BPO as I love high speed driving and always have as it is just engrained in me. Ahh, ok we won't agree there! Don't worry mate, in some ways I am glad you said something, and most importantly we did find some common ground mate. Along with this it were nice to have a debate where it could be said I won as that never happens with the mrs!
Funnily enough I wasn't too keen on High Speed routes until I watched 'Train to Busan', that really changed my mind about them and now I want to see the TGV Reseau in game!
Matt was talking about obtaining French licenses in the stream the other day (wonder if focus a French company may be able to help with that ), I’ve been hopeful of the Reseau for a long time, hoping if it comes it will have layers on LGV Med as a loco addon.
Yeah, I reckon we'll see some French stuff in the near future seeing as France was on the list of countries outside of 'the big three' that people want to see in TSW in the recent survey.
A southern - middle, eastern one what stretches no further than the middle of the country (the midlands) from the south York is south end of the north, not Doncaster and no way Peterborough
Peterborough - Doncaster is one of the most boring routes in the game. Middle of nowhere, nothing to see.
SKW is nothing more than a high speed Bakerloo. Most of the time you stare into black tunnel holes, just at high speed.
Agreed. Kings Cross would have been a far better starting point; if TSC can do it, then TSW should be able to as well.
Bakerloo is okay as I like the tube and after the 1938 stock got buffed is quite pleasant to drive. However... I don't drive it that often simply because the way AP works in the game just doing one all stops run from E&C to H&W puts it at the top of the "favourite" driven trains and routes played which is simply not the case. It would have been better if they'd done the Northern Line wit its varied branches and service pattern, or set Bakerloo back when services still ran through to Watford Junction (and Stanmore) and dropped in Class 501 units together with the Croxley Green branch.
(Might be a) unpopular opinion: If GWE ever gets rebuilt I think it would be better to backdate the route to 1990s (late BR) or early 2000s (early First Great Western) rather than bring the route into modern day (which most suggestions suggest should happen). Having 47s, 50s, 43s & 165s would make the route better (in my opinion) compared to 802s and 387s.
I would rather have more steam trains, even if they all just use the Flying Scotsman physics model copied and pasted with no improvements. I prefer their exterior appearance to how they drive
Might be an Unpopular opinion of mine personally but I don't think older classic trains are better or somewhat more interesting than modern locomotives. Like I just don't see the appeal in old locos that instead of having standard throttle levers for your AFB, Thrust, Brakes and whatnot... you get either a bunch of valves or a master control wheel. There's the analog displays that I can't really stand, because it makes it a bit miserable to read the speedometer. Like sure it has "character" and history, that'd be nice to look at and learn about but for driving? Well I'd rather pick a BR 193 or an EP20 versus choosing an old BR 155 or 111. As for steam... that's a whole other can of worms, they're beautiful in their own ways, with the engineering aspect of it much more visible... however dare I do anything wrong with it and it just breaks. So yeah, idk, I like trains that are from my time, that I can see with my own eyes and have been on... not trains from four decades ago. At the end if the day though, whether new, old or downright ancient.... they're all beautiful trains.
Well you learn something everyday because i genuienly thought it was common knowledge that the peak forrest was in the midlands
It is, but you won’t and it’s pointless to try and change a stubborn view like this. not when theirs people who put the North South Border at the M25 it ain’t, it’s a very testy and varying view on here (the forum) that border, so thought I’d put the topic in the thread.
Birmingham New Street being so dead and quiet is one of the reasons Cross City is my least used UK DLC.
-The Class 700 isn’t as bad as people say -ToD4 isn’t as bad as people say -New York- Trenton isn’t as bad as people say -Route length isn’t that important if the route provides lots to do (shorts route aren’t that bad)
only found 1 issue with that train on Seriex X, and it’s very minor and has a simple workaround, I do wonder what other issues people seem to be having with that one, to me it’s a diamond of a train. (Regretting not using it too much lately)
