Upcoming Release London Overground Suffragette Line - Coming Soon!

It’s the goblin line

 

Its both now

 

Not the most excitable route - especially when compared to the recent and very excellent Rosenheim-Salzburg route - but I'll probably still enjoy it nonetheless.

That second-to-last screenshot of the Class 801 and 700 - my word, how I wish we could have ECML South.

 

Bring it on

 

Snuck that aspect in while Matt was on his long break, did you?

 

Well based on cab it’s closest thing we got to S7/S8 underground stock

 

If this route is good, then I may pick it up. I really enjoyed the North London and GOBLIN......I mean the Mildmay and Suffragette Lines in TSC. This route may not be for everyone but I do like London Underground/Overground routes.

I still can not get over the new names. I'm suprised that the London Overground lines didn't have official names to begin with.

Personally I think it would've been better if DTG had made both the Mildmay and Suffragette Lines and combine the two as one dlc like they did in TSC. It would've been the better choice as it would've gave players more to do

 

Delighted to see my birthplace, Barking, in TSW4 at last and I'm really looking forward to driving an Aventra. I do wish it was the far more ambitious LTS rather than LO but this will do for now and maybe a little more patience will be worth it in the end. After 25 years of railway simulation and it would be nice to see lines that I've not already got.

 

Really gotta give DTG credit for stepping up the quality of their releases. This looks extremely promising....but.... £24.99/€29.99/$29.99 is very steep for a short route...

 

That price point may turn people off. 13 miles, 13 stations with one train and lack of replayability is bound to cause some criticism. Not that it is unjustified.

I do wonder of all the London Overground routes that DTG could've made, why did they choose this line?

 

Cool to see that the Class 710 Aventra is ready and is coming out later on this month. Very detailed both outside and inside. Looking forward to driving it not only on its home route but other routes too in free roam.

 

Will the London Overground be added to the Bakerloo Line?

 

it is the equivalent of a £19.99 route about over a year ago (like IOW original) adjusted to the price increase from bad economy

so no I wouldn’t say it’s expensive, it is a lower priced route compared to usual which is a nice thing to do.

 

Just about worth £9.99. If that!

 

you couldn’t get the train by itself at usual pricing from the other year (£11.99), so no definitely not.

 

Accounting for inflation, and higher costs nowadays , £29.99 isn't that bad.

 

Unlikely

 

£29.99 I would have considered not just, routes must be compared to one and other, routes at 50miles etc are sold at £29.99, selling this one the same could be called not just, but the actual price (£24.99) the lower price is respectable to that.

 

Will have to wait and see what the price is in Canadian dollars.

 

it should be whatever the TSW2 usual routes were, unless inflation has changed the conversion rates what DTG refer to. (Which I dont think it has as €$ has always been 5 up from £)

 

Route isn’t set in a few months from now, it’s set pre ‘suffragette line’ . Let’s call it the goblin. Route looks ok

 

Because Matt used to live in Leytonstone some years ago.

 

DTG have had points before in there scheduling what doesn’t allow for 40-60 mile routes ish, so possible this is one such place and this route was chosen to fit that.

 

£25 for a route almost as short as one of Taylor Swift's flights is a little steep, I would imagine service mode would get boring pretty quickly doing the same short runs over and over again but it all comes down to the effort put in, £30 would have been an insult so I'm glad they didn't charge full price.

 

So basically they didn't want to do it because it would be too much work. We all know how popular routes such as SEHS and Riesa Dresden are due to the network style of those route. I don't have a issue with this line but I can see why this may turn people off. I think it would've been better if we got both lines but it is what it is

 

suppose it comes down to what decision was made on the end points of the route, perhaps it was that it came up in the schedule slot what was too small, or perhaps just a decision for it to be only the Goblin.

routes in this case are generally better yes when they are more full especially when it was done that way in TSC, not the first case probably won’t be the last.

 

Looks good !

 

Doesn't sound like it, Unless it's as AI traffic as the game won't be able to read the third rail aspect of the 710.

March and April are going to be expensive months for me and 24.99 for a 13 mile route is a bit pricey. So I won't be buying this until May, June time at least.

 

Reading the article, it doesn't sound like the 710 is actually compatible with Bakerloo anyway. It says you have to use Off the Rails mode in order to drive it on BKL.

 

In all fairness it takes a 40 minute completion time for the 13 miles

 

Interesting. I will get it.

 

I believe that is because of an issue with the BKL only being fourth rail not third and fourth. As such no third rail stock can run on BKL unless "off the rails".

 

Whilst I agree I am happy to pay the asking price as it looks good quality from the pictures seen.

If the price isn’t what you want to pay, then wait for the summer sales.

 

" lighting that recreates the suburban atmosphere after the sun has gone down. "

Is this to prepare us for black as coal night lighting again?

I'd like to know more about the 710. If it's yet another pretty- colored, joystick push and pull emu on a short A to B route, it's probably not for me except in a deep discount sale later in the year.

 

That's precisely what it is.

 

In this picture, I've realised the train on the right has one door open, so does that mean they've added the realistic feature of opening the doors but the passengers have to press a button to open them, and they close automatically after I think 30 seconds but still can be opened by passengers until the driver closes the doors.

 

Hey, I get to learn something new today. Third rail I know, we have that here, but what's fourth rail?

 

On the underground electricity works a bit different so there’s 2 electric rails instead of just 1

 

The fourth rail is used for returning current, as OHLE and third rail could do that overground but in the underground it could effect e.g. cables around the surrounding area so the fourth rail returns the electricity instead

 

If this had included the North London line as well, I would probably have parted with £30, the one handled milk float notwithstanding. But I cannot justify parting with £25 for such a short monotonous route.

 

4th rail does not return current both live rails provide power. the one in the middle is the negative rail the one that switches left to right is the positive raiil.

The negative rail is powered at 210vDC the postiive is powered at 420VDC

 

I notice they specifically mention the Elizabeth Line when talking about the different Aventra variants. A hint?

 

Yes but it’s known as the return rail because the electricity doesn’t pass through the running rails to complete the circuit

 

the power does not return to any of the live rails. you have 210 negative DC and 420 positive DC (DC Direct current) being drawn into the train. The running rails will have a very small Voltage to power track circuits etc.

 

One of the main reasons there is a 4th rail is becuase having the current return through the running rails was interfering with the equipment in the tunnels

 

Maybe I'm missing something but why not just have current forced on for the route? This is what's done for Off the Rails right, is there any reason it can't just be toggled by the devs when making a timetable? I also know it can be enabled during service mode through the use of the God Mode mod. If it's a matter of time saving or something fine, I understand that timetables are a lot of work from attempting to create some myself. I just feel that if that's the case, it should just be stated instead of giving some arbitrary reason as to why it cannot be achieved.

It seems like such a shame to add more rolling stock to the game and then not utilise it to its full potential.

 

sadly that is wrong. The 4th rail is installed to stop earth leakage currents that could affect service pipes, telephone cables, or cast iron tunnel liners (the tunnell rings) there is no earthing on the rails they install resistors to help with that. Should also note that the Sub surface lines are powered to 750DC which is 500v + and 250v -

 

to utilise it to the full potential would be best if the route was extended to watford junction as the London overground wont terminate at harrow and wealdstone.

 

this is dragging this off topic sorry i didnt realise it was an annoucement thread. Happy to continue the subject in PMs if you want feel free to drop one over.