Just had a full play through of the new goblin line and wow, this is an instant hit with me, the route might not be long (as I prefer long routes personally) but even still I’m absolutely blown away by this route, the attention to detail, the beautiful station modelling, the correct assets. You can tell a lot of passion went in to this, so kudos to DTG for this beautiful route, and I hope it’s a step in the right direction for the future. Routes like this is what makes me enjoy the game, everything from the beautiful train model, to the amazing scenery to the little things, absolutely amazing route and I hope that more comes from this amazing route building
Totally agree. It’s sad that all the talk at the moment is not about how good Goblin is, as it should be, but about how bad Fife Circle is. I feel like DTG have stepped up their game since TSW4 came out and Goblin is proof of that. I just wish it were longer!
It’s really a shame, as DTG have made this beauty of a route but allowed rivet to preview that dumpster fire of a route
I guess nobody had thought 2 weeks ago that Goblin would be the one everybody's wanting. As I said before a great work on the scenery this time. I don't know how the shorten length would affect long time playability for me personally, but it could work out well if the immersion is just fine. I really would wish it had passenger announcements though. Really missing it in.
This is why i think there is so much backlash against the Scottish Rivet route. Leaving only 1 week between the release of these 2 UK routes, show the different qualities between the 2 routes.
It's funny - I was wondering (as were many other people probably) why DTG were really selling the "fully licensed" aspect of the route, but I totally get it now. All of the branding, font, and meticulous detail, right down to what's written on each poster, is exactly spot on - exactly what you'd see from the second you set foot in one of those stations, and it takes the immersion to a whole new level.
Agreed, which makes it a real shame there are no announcements. A few bugs fixes and announcements would make this nigh-on perfect IMHO.
I must say from what I have seen of the route it does look very well done, and after the FCL stream there were part of me which wanted to buy it, but I saw a video on youtube (I think it may have been your one Jetwash showing off your enhancements) and I just saw how quickly it accelerated with only 77% on the power from Barking Riverside and it just reminded me how much I despise these sorts of routes and so I still won't be buying it yet.
Despite my prerelease stance after seeing the very positive feedback - even from some of the more pragmatic members like me - I folded and bought it. Thus far not at all disappointed. The built up scenery is outstanding and you really feel you are running through an urban corridor. Almost a Densha de Go Japanese vibe to it. The 710 is a lovely train to drive and despite my scepticism the sounds are good - much better than the 700. Though my ears did pick up a slight resemblance to one of the DB4xx units that we get on the German routes. I really hope DTG have plans to give it a longer route and opportunity to stretch its legs. This is another route though where we could do with the core updating to add more than one save slot and to eliminate the problem of saved runs on a subsequent service not restoring the objective data. That makes it impractical to keep going, see any delays build up essentially spend a "day" on the line or try and do a driver's shift over several sessions. Much better than abstract single runs. So sorry for tag but DTG Matt this is something that really needs to be on the priority list. But yes, a hearty well done to all involved.
Well, the forum seems to be largely of one mind when it comes to Goblin. Much as I usually don't like commuter routes with a joystick train, I do like quality and this route seems to have it in spades. My only reservation is that, going by the streams I've seen, I probably won't be able to drive the route at night. Shame really but it joins BCC, Cathcart and Glossop as daytime only routes. So, partly to assuage my disappointment with FCL, I'll pick this up tomorrow.
I’ve driven it a few times at night and the lighting is as good as anything else in the game. You know me by now, if the lighting is rubbish I’ll be at the front with a loudspeaker stamping my feet. The night lighting on Goblin isn’t rubbish (caveat being I’m obviously using my Lighting mod).
The only downside so far with Goblin is that it feels like it has so much more potential to be built upon. It’s great and it looks amazing. But it needs more traffic. It’s a shame we have no London commuter locos to fill it out. Barking Riverside might be the best station they’ve ever modelled.
´Don´t know if its possible, but if, I would be happy when announcements could be implemented with some update. This route looks very nice, the train ist good to drive, it has good lights for driving at night. One of DTG´s best routes, perhaps THE best one.
What's sad is that Goblin was overshadowed and pretty much forgotten about really quickly because of the Fife Circle Disaster
All the good reviews are tempting me to get it. Guess the proof will be in their next longer route to see if the standard holds.
Yes really frustrating getting to Gospel Oak and seeing the NLL stretching away in both directions. Hope they can do a SEHS and add Stratford to Richmond to the same quality. That would actually trump BPO and make it the best UK route in the game.
Man.... I did not want to buy another route that short time after Salzburg - Rosenheim. The overwhelming positive feedback, which is not easy to get in this very picking community, make me probably grabbing it as well. As console players i can't count on community mods to fix routes, and have to live with what I get. Thats why it is easy choice to pick this over the other upcoming UK route.
But you also have to say that Goblin is a DLC that looks good and is good even without mods. This is not unimportant, especially for console gamers. If the Semmerinbahn reaches the quality of Vorarlberg, it should be good. But in a direct comparison - especially the quality of the vegetation - Goblin is clearly ahead. Above all, I have concerns about whether it won't be another “Popping Forest” festival, similar to the Left Rhine route. This was not so noticeable in Vorarlberg, as there was less forest there and the rocky, distant high mountains made up a large part of the atmosphere.
To be fair you need to read the update posts on the forums and look at new rivet video before jumping to conclusions in short yes a monumental cockup using old build for preview however as Jasper later stated many improvements already gone into builds for public release
I have egg on my face after saying I wouldn't buy it due to the lack of announcements, but after the preview stream and the feedback on these forums, I had to give it a go. I'm glad I did, I don't have anything to say about it that others haven't already said, but it's clearly a very solid, well made route. I'm enjoying it a lot more than I thought I would. I hope all TSW developers are taking note- if you put care and attention into add ons people will be happy and you'll attract more customers, even people who weren't initially convinced by the concept.
Me too. I mean it crosses all the wrong boxes for me, short A to B, repetitive, stop- start gameplay,, one- handled train etc. But the one box it does tick is quality. And it's been a long time since that adjective was used to describe an entire DTG route. I can't imagine what else I might buy this year unless LIRR2 and the PFR upgrade and 104 materialize. Even if Rivet perform a miracle with FCL over the weekend, I'll hold off on that until the fall at least.
I'm very tempted to buy now, given the glowing reports by a lot of folks and some of the established forum members here, but I just have that nagging feeling I'll be doing 5-6 runs then the euphoria (!) will suddenly disappear. I'm guessing the passenger services are almost all green light runs, unless you throw a free roam into the mix. I also have a feeling that Fife will have more playability so I'll probably go for that providing they guarantee more AI services. I'm in the minority on that one I feel.
One other feature I like which I'm not sure we've seen yet on UK routes are the safety recesses inside the tunnels/covered ways. Up to now we have just had a flat textured dark brick wall but again, impressive attention to detail.
Goblin Line also has a Hot Fuzz reference in one of it's scenarios so that awards it a few more points
One question that comes to mind is whether this quality of route building and attention to detail will be the standard for future, longer routes from DTG. I certainly hope that Goblin won't be an outlier in terms of quality along with BPO. I guess we'll find out later this year.
Well, well... Look what just ran in alongside me at Barking: Erm, "My Lords" is the expression that comes to mind. And DadRail said the LT lines are empty. If you're reading this Richard, might want to amend that - even if the 1938 stock isn't rally correct for the District Line past or present.
I predicted that Goblin would be a well made route, my reasons being: 1 it is a short route and many shorter routes released have been successes i.e Nidderthalbahn, Cathcart circle, West Somerset, Metro North and East Midlands and no 2 it is near Dovetail HQ in Chatham so there is possibly familiarity with East London and a lot of the team wouldn't want to make a hash of their local route.
Passed 4 class 66 freights on a westbound run I did yesterday, so definitely not “Fife” levels of inactivity.
