New Tsg/influenzo Loco Dlc In Development!

In the substitution settings in the timetable, one of the things you can specify is the minimum amount of power a loco needs to be a viable substitution candidate for a specific service. That means it'll depend on how each specific timetable has been set up...

 

looks impressive

 

AIUI, DB these days only uses diesels on non-electrified routes, except in emergencies. If there's catenary, the traction is electric.

 

I hope 232 comes out one day too! We're missing "Ludmilla" in the game
For now, I'll enjoy the cloud of smoke coming out of the 218's exhaust!

 

I was mostly meaning player-train substitution, rather than AI. So that I can be the emergency.

 

In my own words hellfire dreadful my lords not only is the 218 coming soon it also has the proper engine

 

It's been a good while since DB used 218s on freight. Private operators use ex-DB-and-still-red or rented-from-DB 218s all the time though, and they're far less sqeamish about this sort of thing.

And remember that pretty much all German routes in TSW are set in a time period before Dual Mode locos became widespread.

 

Wunderbar!

 

The BR218s were once common on the Hamburg - Lübeck line and that is where it will be most at home, but it will also make for a natural fit on the more recently released Maintalbahn.

We will get it as well in Maintalbahn, I cross fingers for getting it as well in Niedertalbahn.

 

Do they use 112 for freight then? Because that's usable in RSN freight services if I'm not mistaken.

 

We'd need a backdated version for that. Not impossible given that TSG got us a slightly modernized traffic red 628 alongside the mint green 628 in NID, but I wouldn't expect such a surprise twice.

No, they don't (generally). Obviously, nothing is impossible on the railway and a 112 on freight did happen but they're generally exclusive passenger locos unlike the similar 143, which can be seen on freight somewhat frequently (if we include private EVUs).

 

which is understandable, sice 143 has only 120 vmax, which is ok for freight, and 112 has 160 vmax, which is good for most passenger operations

 

That is my hope! Even if backdated as NID is fromTSG, they could include it too.

 

Looking good! And about time there was a proper German diesel loco in the game (not taking anything away from the 363 and 628). Very happy to see that it's coming soon as well, thought it was still a ways off. Just hoping it layers onto freight services, would be great to use it on Ruhr Sieg Nord, even if that route is all electrified.

 

They have not worked freight in the last 10-15 years (apart from private stuff)

 

Ah, that's a pity.

 

But a good number of those private locos are still (or at least were for some time) DB red. I'd be fine seeing a few 218s on freight in TSW.

 

Okay, can somebody explain this?



I cannot for the life of me figure out why DB would have assigned slow diesels to IC service. Now, in ancient days TEEs were often pulled by the big, fast V 200s, especially cross-border, but V 160s? In the very late Bundesbahn era?

 

If I had to guess, it was due to the V200s being retired by the mid-1980s and there still being a need for diesel haulage on some of the routes. Apparently a chunk of the 218s are capable of 140kph running, which should be fine given the E10 derived locomotives (such as the 110s) had top speeds in the 140-160kph bracket and also sometimes hauled such services.

 

The V200s were phased out in the mid to late 80s due to corrosion, high maintanance costs (due to a dual motor setup) and lack of electric train heating. Later V160s were also able to double up, which defeated the purpose for having the heavy V200s for freight.
When the V200s were phased out, most lines which ran IC services were electrified and cross-border services had dual-voltage locos. There was no need to built a entirly new diesel loco for the remaining few diesel sections, so the V160 were modfied (some even for 160km/h).
And versions of the V160 also got an aditional gas turbines, which resulted in the most powerfull german diesel ever. So the V160s are really slow nor weak compared to the V200s.

 

218 105 was painted in these colours in 2010, for no reason other than it looks cool.

 

That livery does work pretty well on the 218 to be fair.

 

I personally prefer the blue version for a bit more contrast, but the shape of everything is really nice.

DB agreed with me by the way - way back in the day, they used two 218s to trial ideas for their new paint scheme, one beige and red and one beige and dark blue, and they decided to make the blue variant the standard.

 

In 1950s-1980s, there was a lot of international expresses that run for many hours and through multiple borders, but there were no multisystem locomotives able to cross them. And even within countries, not all routes along the way were initially electrified either. Additionally, by far not all corridors were approved for any significantly high speeds (in GDR, there were no lines for >120 km/h at all, and the state of infrastructure did not always allow even that).
Rather than having strong e-loco for parts of the route but having to swap it multiple times, it's eventually more time-efficient to have slightly weaker diesel that can run the whole run at once. 140 km/h was considered pretty high speed already, before SFS came (and not all wagons were approved for higher speeds either).

It may sound scary, but ten years ago was just 2014. Lot of TSW routes are set around 2011 and newer routes even much earlier.

 

Man, all that mention of a V200 makes me really want one in TSW... xD

 

I understand that- for a long time ago. But by the time the 220s were retired, I'm pretty sure the ICs were all running at 160 (they were pulled by 103s, 110.3s and 120s on electrified routes, and the coaches were either Rheingold/TEE-wagen or Eurofimas), and they didn't run on the backwater lines without electricity (AFAIK). While there probably was some need for diesel traction, I am surprised any 218s were assigned full-time.

 

It's relatively easy to explain: 218 218 became the Bundesbahn's first locomotive in the new ocean blue/ivory livery at the beginning of 1974. 218 217 received a similar test coat in the TEE colors purple/ivory (RAL 1001). From then on, ocean blue/ivory became the new standard color for the 218, while the 218 217-8 in purple/ivory remained a one-off and was repainted in 2002. (from Wikipedia)



There was only one locomotive in this livery at the time, it was only for experimental purposes and the DB then decided on ocean blue and beige.

In 2010(!), 218 105 were repainted in this color (see picture above), but just because it looked good, nothing more.

 

A very enlightened policy in this day and age. Meanwhile, here in the less-enlightened UK we'll soon be introducing a new 400+ miles service using diesels throughout on a route that is fully electrified (Euston - Stirling)!