Acela Behaving Weirdly After Update?

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  1. Purno

    Purno Well-Known Member

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    When I set the throttle in the Ready position (which is the lowest amount of throttle possible), it gives so much power it causes wheelslip in the rain. I've never had this before. Anyone else experiencing issues with the Acela?
     
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    There is no update at all for the Acela so its impossible thats things have changed... Only a mod could be a possibility
     
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    Could be a core change…
     
  4. Spikee1975

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    Don't use Cruise Control to start the train in wet conditions - it will always use maximum traction no matter what the throttle is set to. Disable it to control the tractive effort yourself.
     
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  5. Xander1986

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    Thats the whole point!
     
  6. pveezy

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    The Acela has always had this behaviour, where when you are using the automatic throttle/cruise control (I forget the actual name for it but it is the Acela's version of AFB), the train ALWAYS accelerates at full power regardless of what the throttle itself is set to. Even if the throttle is at 10% it will accelerate with 100% power.

    On the flip side, the throttle position DOES effect how much dynamic braking is applied when the cruise control is slowing down. If the throttle is at 10% you will get very little dynamic braking, if it is 100% it will have lots of dynamic breaking.

    It is definitely weird. You don't notice it in situations where you are departing at low speed anyway (like leaving Boston, Providence, or NYC) but you will get wheel slip using the cruise control when leaving Trenton even in perfect weather because you are going to a higher speed right from start. Then in rain or snow you will get wheel slip all over the place.

    Now, I don't know if this is a bug or how the Acela works in real life, but it has been like this in TSW since the DLC released. Someone with more real life knowledge than me would need to chime in here. Maybe in real life the cruise control is only mean to be activated at cruising speeds? No idea.
     
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  7. cwf.green

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    It is not realistic and definitely not intended. But I have never been able to reproduce it on PC (I just tested it right now and had no issues holding for example 5% or 10% TE with cruise control enabled and in rainy weather). I don't know why it seems to happen on consoles. My guess is that there is some kind of conflict/unintended effect with how gamepads have different control setup.

    Another strange, console only issue I've seen reported is that sometimes you get a traction lock on the Vectron when reducing the speed target with AFB enabled. Turns out that AFB Speed Decrease seems to move the reverser to Neutral (which obviously will trigger traction lock) for some strange reason.
     
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  8. Rhazv

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    That's strange, I'm on PC (steam) and have the exact same issue with the cruise control always taking 100% tractive effort regardless of the throttle position. I reported it back when the Acela originally released (https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...d-for-new-us-content.65251/page-6#post-611784) and even made a video about the issue back then:


    In the preview stream from a year ago, this problem also seems to occur:

    I also double checked it just now and I still experience this issue. I don't have any controllers or anything like that hooked up to my PC. I don't know if that would make a difference. Also the OP of this thread marked it with PC, so I assume they are one PC as well while having this issue.
     
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  9. Spikee1975

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    Chances of a fix if that's being reported now are one to two years delay, maybe never.

    I'm driving it like my car, manually accelerate (which works fine) and enable Cruise Control when at cruise speed.
     
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  10. razmatus#2517

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    thats weird, I saw this in older threads from like a year ago... myself I have never experienced this, but now reading your posts, I have to check it once I get back home :D

    I know that in ACS64 the cruise control is "functional" but so bugged it is unusable, but I remember cruise control working on Acela just fine

    could be it is returning cos of some updates? dunno... will test it at home I guess
     
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    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    at which point in the stream? if I want to test it, I would like to see how it behaves... when it misbehaves :D
     
  12. pedro#1852

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    i'm on pc (steam) and here for me acela cruise control always had this problem
     
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    trying to test it in Free roam, but cant move Reverser handle, so I might test it in actual service and see what it does for me
     
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    ok, I turned on a service from Trenton and woah, it does that thing with cruise control... I will try to uninstall and reinstall the DLC if it helps
     
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    nope, didnt help :/ whyyyyy... either for me it did work and now it doesnt, or I havent noticed it yet... dont know... but man, this sucks, I loved using cruise control in Acela, precisely cos I thought it WORKS :/
     
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    checked it right now and yeah... no idea how I havent noticed it... or if it was somehow reintroduced... damn :/ ... I guess I will have to get around without it or just dont play with Acela atm :/
     
  17. li150special

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    On PS5 it still shows this - apparently unwanted - behaviour. Goes like stink with cruise control on. Rocketship Sim World 5.

    I mean, you have to give DTG credit. Apparently, the problem is known only for some months now.
     
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    There's been an issue with the Acela since day one. When you use the cruise control, it will always give you max throttle no matter what your actual throttle is set. It only happens for the power. For braking, it works properly based on what you set the throttle. But for power, it will always give you max.

    Its mostly noticeable in the rain, or when leaving Trenton (you have a higher speed limit as soon as you depart so your train will go haywire and slip wheels in max throttle). Leaving the other stations like Boston, NY, and Providence you won't notice the wheel slip because your speed limits rise gradually but the max throttle is still there.

    I've had the issue on PS5 and Xbox X since the DLC released. Its been raised and talked about ever since launch.

    cwf.green mentioned a long time back in one of the threads that the issue is fixed or would be fixed but I still experience it to this day.

    Only work around is to not use cruise control until you are at cruising speed. Using it from a stop will launch you like SpaceX unless you are gradually accelerating anyway based on low speed limits at the aforementioned stations.
     
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    I wonder whether this cruise control issue on console will be resolved at any point. If I understand correctly, the fix has been made on PC alrady and "only" needs to be rolled out on console.
     
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    No?
     
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    Haven't played alot with the Acela....but i tested it and all i can say, the cruise control it's definitely broken (PC -- Epic version).
    The only thing that is recommended (for now) is to use Cruise control closer to the allowed speed.
     
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