I noticed in the Vorarlburg steam when the train passed through the neutral sections there weren’t any changes in the OHLE. I don’t know anything about the route irl so maybe there isn’t anything there but I do know there is on uk routes. Would I be/ am I asking for too much if I were to suggest including actual neutral section equipment in the OHL to make it more realistic assuming it’s not there currently in the ECML route?
It's in on the E-G route, so I assume the gear is in on ECML too. Although, how much of it you see at 125mph is unclear
thanks to solicitr, it has been brought to my attention... first I tested it on Semmeringbahn, the section between St. Egyden and Neunkirchen, and then I thought hmm, is it cos of the route, or cos of the locos... so I tried Vorarlberg and Rosenheim, 4024, 1116, BR101, BR111 and Vectron... and the only one that consistently worked was 4024 (sometimes it didnt properly display the power cut on the screen, but traction lock engaged and I actually had to reengage power by closing MCB) I kinda knew that on lets say Edinburgh - Glasgow the neutral section used to at least trigger a bit of brakes, but I thought, genuinely thought that neutral sections on German/Austrian routes worked... ok, I am going to post this in Troubleshooting section, maybe even into more detail
The neutral sections work. Salzburg Rosenheim for example you'll see a fluctuation in the electrical current drawn from the overhead wires. However, if stuff like this makes you cry... I don't know.
ehm, I am not sure thats how neutral sections work... fluctuations in current happen, but as far as I know if you fail to open MCB by the second sign (first one is just a reminder a NS is about to happen), it should trip and cut power/throttle... the least it should do in any train is activate traction lock... but as far as I know, if you dont open the MCB by yourself, it should cut power until you close the MCB and reengage throttle, correct me someone if I am wrong aka how the 4024 does it... and how Vectron behaves on Semmeringbahn on the NS between St. Egyden and Neunkirchen (if you fail to open MCB, it cuts power and you have to close MCB afterwards as it shows on the screen on the left) in my testing I even let throttle in and it still kept increasing speed accordingly as if nothing happened as for the "However, if stuff like this makes you cry... I don't know.", well, thats what mental issues do to ppl... stuff gathers over time and yes there are days when even a little thing can cause you to barely function... and before you recommend me getting a therapist, yes, I tried, but getting that here in Slovakia... lets say DTG sooner create a complete Empire Builder Route for TSW20 than I get a doc for my head here
Ok then I misunderstood you. At least to me I thought the neutral section works, or is simulated, trackside. That the locos don't react accordingly, I didn't know. And don't let something as simple as a train sim get to your head
it is kind of a place where one supply ends and another begins... so it doesnt cause some damage, there is a short section without power... first sign is a reminder that you should get ready, then open the MCB so as not do damage the circuitry in the loco/train and after your pantograph passes the third sign, you can close the MCB back... if you fail to do so, it should cut power/throttle at the second sign in 4024, where it works properly on Semmeringbahn, Rosenheim and Vorarlberg, if you fail to do this, it shows the traction lock icon in miniHUD and crossed kN on the right screen... then you just close MCB and apply throttle and you are good to go in Vectron, on Semmeringbahn (where it works properly), it cuts power and opens MCB (you can see it on the left screen, down and left), then you close MCB and after a couple secs, you have power back and can apply throttle again other locos it doesnt do anything, they just keep speeding up if you have throttle on... and why does 442 work? no idea cos that one is old well, TSW has been, since I have started playing it, aka during first weeks of the pandemic, sth that both kept my sanity intact but sometimes also caused a bit of anxiety at some stuff... and it still is important part of my daily routines ... I turn it on, select a loco/train or route and usually it makes me relax but stuff like this can throw this fragile balance off... this wasnt sth I thought would be not working properly in the game
Yes I understand how a neutral section works. And I mean track-side it works ingame everywhere, as you can observe the disruption in overhead current reliably. I just didn't know that it doesn't work properly on the trains itself.
yeah I mean, if it works on 4024, then the fault must be in other locos not detecting this or having it implemented
My guess: Voralberg was the first route with a functioning neutral section, and the Talent I was the loco designed for that route so proper functionality was built in. Older locos didn't have it built in- and the 1116 was built as a modification of the old BR 182 so it doesn't have it either. Compare LZB: no loco released before SKA had it, although things like the 146 and 185 do have it IRL.
Shame. I hope the 1116 gets LZB one day though. it's gonna need it on some routes. I'm wondering if the 1116 will just layer onto every new austrian route it drives on like the vectron does. or if it will be another dosto or traxx chaos.
seems so yeah as for LZB, I believe DB and MRCE older variants had LZB display working... as for 1116, personally this doesnt bother me that much, I got LZB+AFB turned to 230 kmh, and let the duo do its job... and when I see 160 and less, I get ready for LZB release which is sth I love since I learned an IRL way to do it easily (suggested by a user whose name I have forgotten)
trying to get an answer to this question - when going over a neutral section, I put throttle into off, then open the MCB, then close it... most other locos at that point are able to take power, and I dont remember right now, but BR101 either takes a bit of time before you are able to apply power, or you have to put throttle into at least min and then back off before the traction lock disappears... is this normal/prototypical? like, some quirk of 101?
That might be a quirk of the 101. I’m not sure how the 101 works irl but I’d expect the traction lock to disable once the circuit breaker is closed again like in most other trains
will test it once I get home... if the traction lock disappears after doing that throttle off-min-off dance, or if it is just enough to wait a couple seconds on throttle off after closing the MCB
