Which Extended Uk Routes You Would Like To See Most In Tsw4

Not so much an extension but as both stations exist DTG wise as well as some of the track side why not WCML Birmingham to Manchester? Knock on effect would be improved AI traffic too if layered in on BCC and Glossop. Route miles are similar to current ECML too.

 

I'm not sure how many of these " whingeing addicts " there really are but I think many US freight fans would be happy to see more of some locos already in your catalog. I'm thinking of the excellent F7, GP9RM ( best in class ), SD40-2, ES44C4 and the GP38-2 just to name a few.

 

I think as I have said to some others, the ECML south is likely to be a separate route in the future.

 

That's very likely to be a separate route.

 

I agree with that Matt.

 

I agree, I don't think it's nice to call people "whinging addicts". Because we're all different. And I'm happy for everyone who gets the routes a locos that they want.

 

That is some good news from Skyhook.
In fact, I actually made a suggestion to add the class 222: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/class-222-meridian-for-midland-mainline.80546/

 

I think Peak Forest could potentially be saved if, coming on the heels of the 104, it was extended to Derby and thus had a logical endpoint.

 

I think the class 104 is coming to TSW4, but I hope the Peak Forest expansion pack includes an extension to Derby and possible Manchester Central, or maybe even the class 251 Midland Pullman which will also be used on the MML.

 

Toss in a Black Five. Could be developed pretty quickly and easily from the Jubilee, methinks.

 

Ok, thanks for letting me know.

 

Considering how late it were added it has not done badly at all!

 

Have picked TVL to Bishop Auckland, would love to get the full 101 runs in

As for ECML, I’d rather any future segments be done in alternate time periods instead of an extension to the modern one.

Let’s get some Deltic thrash, an LNER A4 Pacific and Valenta HST into to TSW!

 

Northern, LNER, TPE, Southeastern all DFT OLR. 3 are in the game, so no reason why TPE couldn't be too.

SEHS Extended was released when it was OLR, though SEHS released under the Govia brand.
Glossop released when it was OLR.
LNER released when it was OLR.

Tbh, I could see ECML North coming. Edinburgh to Newcastle maybe. We could have Scotrail, LNER, TPE, Northern. No XC or Lumo probably, but DTG could try to get the licence. Could be a good one for loco DLCs.

 

I'd love to see traditional trains on the modern lines more often. Especially the A4 Mallard.

 

I think York-Newcastle is more likely to come first because:
1 It's easier for DTG to make
2 It's closer to Doncaster (But should have gone to York)

 

I think it's going to be in this order:
1. Peterborough - Doncaster
2. York extension
3. York - Newcastle
4. London - Peterborough
5. Newcastle - Edinburgh
6. Combined into 1 route (That would be awesome)

 

In my opinion, I don't think having no new trains is a major problem - what TSW does actually need though is more track mileage i.e. new routes for many of the superb locos that already exist in-game. Thus, in turn, if you have more routes in the same areas with the same trains, you'll have more of a route network - something that many TSW players have long requested instead of some standalone, empty one-loco route...

Some examples which current loco DLC could have their own new route:
- Class 465 and/or 700: SEHS is such a fantastic route, I don't think many would complain at having another similar route without any new trains if it were of similar quality, especially if there were a few branch lines
- DB BR 101: there's never really been a true Germany InterCity route in TSW that is perfect for the 101 - its home route, HRR, was too small and while it was nice to see the 101 on Rosenheim-Salzburg, it wasn't the main focus
- Class 142 Pacer: just look how popular Blackpool Branches has been, I reckon if there were another similar route with exactly the same trains I doubt many would complain

Basically, to sum up, having 'no new train' routes should be considered for the most popular, highest quality locos that already exist in TSW. In my opinion, TSW players probably get bored of the same routes over again instead of the loco itself, so I don't see why we can't have just more new routes but with no trains, especially if it means more routes that form part of a larger route network or routes with several branch lines etc.

 

Why is there no ecml to london

 

Just to clarify as this is an interesting comment - is it possible for third parties to fix the issues with steam content or would that be reliant on DTG fixing any in-house Simugraph issues first?

Additional question - can we expect any fixes to existing steam content (eg. lack of AI sounds, issues with reverser gearing that are known and documented) to come along with the Peak Forest 104 pack?

Thanks.

 

Thanks Matt, appreciate the clarification. Is there much hope of us getting said steam fixes from DTG side any time soon? (Putting to one side for now the topic of any future new content)

 

Thanks for letting me know Matt.

 

If DTG were to extend the ECML to York, I'd like to see them also include the line to Leeds and Neville Hill depot.
Whilst we have Leeds already in TSW, the station and surrounding areas have changed since the 1980s.
A similar number of LNER services go to Leeds as those going north to Newcastle and Edinburgh.
You could reuse the Northern 323 for those stopper services to Leeds as these are already represented as AI at Donny.
You wouldn't get XC Voyagers though as AI unless someone makes one and it is possible to get the XC licence (XC would be drivable from Moorthorpe curve to Leeds or very rarely from Doncaster in event of diverts and timetable changes).

TVL, yes. I'd love to see the line extend to Bishop Auckland or down to Boulby potash mine to add extra services for freight but also increase service numbers for passenger trains heading to Whitby and other locations.
Also allow for the introduction of the 142 Pacer units to substitute for the 101s.

NTP. Again, an extension either side of the route would be nice. York or even Scarborough would be preferable though as then you could also include the line off to Gascoigne Wood for Hull services (both freight and passenger).
NTP is one of my local lines along with the Leeds branch of the ECML.
It would also be nice if the extension could include Healey Mills Yard at Ossett as several NTP freight services would go there (currently they end at Mirfield in TSW).

MML. It would be great to have the route go up to Sheffield from Derby or even up the Erewash Valley. It would also be nice to make Toton yard accessible for freight if Erewash Valley was included.
However, we wouldn't have any appropriate traction for other operators (Northern services to Nottingham) unless the 170, 158 and 150 were reskinned.

BCC. Whilst it would be nice for an extension to Worcester or beyond, the route as we have it in TSW is the full CC line.

 

Amazing how this forum thread has turned from possible US route remakes or route extension s to UK please post in proper related forums ..there is a seperate UK forum post already on this ..

 

Errr this is the UK routes thread.
# Should have gone to Specsavers

 

Er, suggest you read the title. This is the UK thread.

 

I would love to see the WCL extended to Plymouth but please not done by Rivet. I hope it is totally revamped and made to look accurate if some other developer takes it on. It is arguably one of the most scenic lines in the uk and deserves it to be completed to its true form. WCL is shambolic and that part of the route between Penzance and St. Austell needs improving.

 

I can see how this thread may have gone off subject, by someone mentioning a New London CT. Seems people get locations confused There is a London Ontario too in Canada CN and CP run throygh there EMD had a locomotive plant there some of the Class 66 s were built there..I once was in a FB group called Birmingham Rails here in US was a group to post pics and train related news for Birmingham Alabama. CSX NS BNSF run there one guy joined started posting train photos from Birmingham. England that was before it was a TSW route which i have by the way.. But we kindly told him his photos were neat but group was just Birmingham Alabama. He welcome to stay in the group if trains here interest him

 

sorry about that meant to post this in the US thread cause there were a few ppl thst were getting off subject on that thread tmy apologies

 

Why hasn’t Kings Cross to Stevenage or Peterborough on the ECML not been added to the list?

 

Nah, I’d rather have a route with the A4’s in their prime era during the days of the real LNER. Work could be done on Scotsman to backdate it to LNER condition for the A3 class, get some Gresley tanks in on commuter services, an O2 on freight. Would make for an absolutely fantastic experience

But alas, it’s unlikely to happen unfortunately with DTG’s stance on steam content…

 

I would like to see the East Coastway extended to at least Hastings. It wouldn't need new stock.

And then perhaps the West Coastway can be done as well as a new route.

 

ECW and BML merged into 1 with refreshed updates look and feel with a new timetable. Including the missing link via Plumpton and also extended to London Bridge would be great id pay £44.99 for something that decent

 

I think an ECML or MML merge is pretty feasible. Both were released fairly recently in the grand scheme of things, both in 2023, and are of course very popular.

I think although an extension for the GWML is pretty popular it is the least likely to happen unless the route is rebuilt from the ground up as it was one of the first bit of DLC produced for the TSW franchise IIRC, but who's to say it cannot happen? I'd personally love to see it happen but I'd really like to see the implementation of ATP if it ever happens via the GWML. I know this is wishful thinking but I'd like to see it either extended all the way to Bristol Temple Meads including Oxford or Exeter St Davids via Westbury, but they would be way too long lol.

 

What if they add Taunton to WSR
A few other extensions that I think could be good:

Perth Dundee and leven added to FCL
Bishops Auckland added to TVL
The visible stations that are not reachable on BML to be added too. Wandsworth road, Queenstown road, Streatham, Streatham hill, and Norwood Junction.

 

It is rather ODD they don't add Taunton given you can almost SEE it from the existing map and it's the major terminus in the area of WSR. Maybe they didn't want the hassle of mapping out another whole village around the station?

 

That's a fair point. A few locos often do MOST of the work on any line. The 47 and 66 for example can run most maps for freight for most time periods and they work. Similar with commuter stuff because MOST routes would work with the DMU/EMU we already have in game. Yes some loco add-ons would be nice, but I wouldn't demand them to be included in EVERY new route. That's just one more thing to complete before releasing a route. Release the routes with existing stock, then leave space for add-ons later. It enables more routes to get out faster and better measures the interest in new locos on an individual basis.

The prices for each could also be lower without the added development cost. If you JUST want that route or you JUST want that loco, you could buy either one cheaper than combined. Shorter development time and lower cost seems like a win-win.

 

Remember it was the project done in mostly 1 devs own free time and it was a ton of work to begin with. It wasn't an official project where they can put a bunch of developers into it

 

I'd love Skyhook to continue working on the MML and do the extension to Sheffield. The extended HST drive would be superb. Out of the routes I presently have, MML is my favourite.

After this, ECML to York (and Leeds) plus BML remaster including Thameslink services and also add in Blackfriars as the end point for driving one of those services.

 

I'd love ECML extended to York and maybe Newcastle with a few branches to Leeds, Scarborough and Sunderland.

 

I voted for BCC it ticks the boxes for both people who enjoy long runs and those who like short runs. Has fast and local services a really nice route and would be nice to see the excellent work done to create Birmingham new street to more use.

 

I voted for both of the ECML extension options listed in the poll. The ECML is my local route and also the route I've played the most in TSC. Extending to York would likely be the most logical option, but Leeds would be a great alternative if it also includes Neville Hill depot and a Class 91/IC225 pack is released to go with it.

While it's a pretty ambitious idea and unlikely to materalise, I would love to see the current ECML route extended over time to mirror the route ATS released for TSC covering from Kings Cross to Leeds and York (but also including St Pancras, Moorgate and the Hertford Loop).

https://alanthomsonsim.com/download...e-london-kings-cross-to-leeds-and-york-merge/

 

Give us the Valenta powered HSTs, I know a few folks would be extatic (I myself much prefer the MTU engine, don't like the loudness but who doesn't love a HST), maybe working alongside the 101s and 50 and 47s. Rip up the OHLE and backdate the scenery by a few decades. I've personally never really played older scenarios due to the lack of them but I'd be more than happy if it is implemented with a realistic timetable!!!

 

Same old same old blinkered rubbish in the list.
Swansea - Milford Haven 1960's - 70's with a Class 120 dmmu.
Which gives you local and long distance passenger and long distance petroleum traffic.
With Brush Type 4's, double headed EE Type 3's and Westerns (using loco's already in the game).