Semmeringbahn Discussion Thread

Well, the satellite picture should give you a hint. There´s no track to begin with. At least not yet. Let alone an electrified main line that extends some 100 m to nowhere. Usually DTG hides those disappearing tracks quite nicely (although they're not even there yet). What happened here I can only guess.

 

Oh ok, l am sure that DTG will perhaps look into this.

 

You must be new here

 

No, unlike some developers, l just know that Matt reads the threads and will take comments back to his team.

Been a train simulator player since 18th June 2001 when MSTS was released. So if you think l’m new 4-COR, l accept that!!!

 

I was only joking haha

 

The route looks spectacular. And the loco is amazing. But it really does get boring after a few runs. Basically 40 mins of winding up/down a mountain and pressing SIFA while occasionally adjusting the AFB.

Not sure how much replay-ability this route will have long term tbh.

 

Learn to take a joke my man

 

I can justify such a statement. Fixing is not DTG's strong side at all, and the scenery is even worse. Many times, I have seen very poorly made parts of routes stay as they are. NY Penn even made it through 3 DLC being a total mess (and probably unchanged for the new LIRR). So yeah, this "mudslide" will most certainly stay a hideous mudslide.

 

That is pretty much how trains are in real life with the exception of unforseen events.
I don't know what you would expect from a train simulator in general to make it more interesting , aliens, volcanos , magic tricks ? Most of us just like trains for what they are and don't expect Harry Potter to fly over the train on a broom to make it more interesting.
If you are referring tot the fact that you don't have the complexity of the safety systems, random event and the level of simulation from the likes of Zusi that demands much more from the driver , that would be another thing, but even so the nature of a simulation itself could still make it boring for some people either way.

 

Well, a real life driver also wouldn't just let AFB control the speed downhill. If you try and drive the train properly, there's plenty to do.

 

Fixing routes and DLC that has run its commercial course in DTG's 'play and forget' strategy doens't bring much new money.
The thumbstick crowd has long since moved to the newest plastic one handle train, new collectibles etc.
unless of course a 'much improved' version can be sold like new with a surcharge, as has been the case in some recent releases?

 

oh come on, plastic trains again, mocking fans of modern traction? what would you like, a shovel controller to simulate throwing coal in a steam engine?

 

That is completely true and I agree with your point 100%. And that is also the case for Bernina and even KSW. AFB is used for tracks that are flat or with small gradients as an additional level of safety when also managing the speed. While using AFB during steep climbs is perfectly fine , using it to descent is a no no as it could not normally coupe with the changing gradients and track conditions reliable.
Descending steep gradients is the full responsibility of the driver

 

THIS!

 

I tried the Taurus OBB on high speed (Cologne-Aachen, Fulda-Kessel, Munich-Augsburg) and surprisingly, this excellent sounding locomotive competes with, and perhaps even wins, the DB BR 187 if the LZB is used. It's totally a mess, unusable! Just as it is also a disgrace to have to enter the "off the rail" parameter to include a train on the German line that has the configuration to run on German lines. With the option on the display, from OBB to DB, what do we do with it, a bit of healthy fiction?

 

It's entirely logical, but nothing to do with voltage. Rather, the 1116 is given the location tag "Austria" so it doesn't auto-sub into German routes where it doesn't belong (although IRL some OBB locos do run on German rails, none of those routes is presently in game other than Rosenheim, where the game does include it)

 

Such a shame and hopefully something worth for modders or future route upgrades. The ÖBB NJ's run over a lot of the route already in TSW and some freight indeed starting from Salzburg or Freilassing continues with the 1116 through more of germany. it's good better substitutions are set though. I'm pretty sick of getting the 112 as "freight" loco when I occasionally use the random service function. it's interesting the 1116 does layer onto Dresden - Chemnitz although no mention of that has been made anywhere. Wondering if that's accidental

 

I tested 1116 on highspeed, and apart from the nonworking LZB display, it works just fine, with one minor difference:
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/obb-1116-lzb-afb-minor-issue.80932/
- tldr - if you try the easier method of reengaging AFB, which works on other LZB-capable locos, it doesnt work, you have to do it the usual way (details in the linked thread)

 

The 1144 is legendary

 

I send a request to Dovetail CEO about The 1144

 

so we could have this on St.Polten - Vienna Westbahnhof route it is so ugly yet so cool

 

Fun fact: the 1044 (1144 the same but with push-pull circuitry) was developed directly from the Swiss Rätische Bahn Ge 4/4 II (as in Arosa). So therefore.......

 

1144 also fixed the issues that 1044 had (allegedly it was sucking snow and such into its insides etc)

 

heh, I remade the mock-camel train in formation designer - 1116 as loco, then a dosto, replaced 3 IC coaches with 3 N-wagen coaches and kept the dosto control cab... and now it works, and it is glorious lol

 

Very true. Like the PIS sign that still is broken on Kilburn Park, Bakerloo line, a route that came bundled with TSW2 is still broken in TSW2, TSW3 and TSW4, of course if they fix it, it will remain broken in the game it originally came with, TSW2 in this case, you CANNOT defend this.

 

LOL (literally!)

 

the true CJX9, a couple mins ago at Wien-Praterstern

 

I was wondering if there is a track plan for this route comparable to the ones trackmaps.co.uk sell for UK routes?
As a tourist driving a Class 47 it would be nice to learn more about the route than simply the Kilometre posts, stations and speed limits.
It's a nice scenic route.

 

since this post I have managed to the two corridors from Wien to St. Polten I hadnt before... one from Wien Franz Josefs Bahnhof via Tulln aka S40 corridor, and the old Westbahn (via Neulengbach and Purkersdorf to Wien Westbahnhof) - and while the route from Wien Hauptbahnhof via Meidling and Tullnerfeld (which is also a station the S40 line crosses) was thrilling cos it was super-fast (rode ICE-T there and on the way back it was CJX5), this was the coolest and most scenic - most of the time winding its way on high embankments or on the edges of steep cliffs and going through a couple of tunnels... not very fast, and near Neulengbach there was a section of track in such a bad condition (I believe they are working along the whole route repairing stuff atm), that the train had to slow down below 10 kph (I was in this camel hump train, on the top floor of the dosto right behind the loco, so I had very good view of everything, including the ominous 1 sign, which you usually find on half-abandoned or derelict tracks) and together with the cant of the track, it was a bit scary experience:

but I still want to ride it in TSW