Enough Is Enough!!!

If the thread is only about the thread, it will die (as I post another in the thread about the thread). But we are approaching the summer blackout and then the announcement of the next iteration so the thread - is not dead

 

They don't get nuked, they're just on the old version of the DLC.

 

The same. And I haven't been back to Glossop since my first couple of runs.

The absence of diesel, steam and freight has cooled me on the game in the last year.

And I see nothing in the current roadmap to entice me to buy anything else in 2024.

 

Yeah, there is really nothing exciting for me right now, also dont have high hopes for San Bernardino looking at AVL.

 

Got to admit after cancelling purchase of LIRR 2, been finding myself back in Run 8 and more especially since adding my remaining States ATS, the last few evenings. Haven't touched TSW in over a week.

And yes not really much on the roadmap, seems anything good probably now being kept under wraps for the big late summer morph into TSW5 or (maybe) TSW4 upgrade plus content pack. DB 218 presents a bit of interest but the Class 104 seems to have slipped back indefinitely along with the UW Japanese route.

 

They don't. When new versions of TS release, each DLC is released again as a separate version. Previous versions remain visible and available to buy, and their reviews are not removed.

 

Fair enough - if people know where to look of course.

 

I'll just put this here.

From Pullup/Focus Entertainment's Q4 23/24 and Half Year 23/24 results (published April 24 and December 23 respectively)

20240418_pr_en_pullup_entertainment_fyrevenue_23_24.pdf (focus-home.com)
HALF YEAR 2022 2023 RESULTS (EURONEXT: ALFOC) (focus-home.com)

 

I think you hold two points here, one I agree and one kind of disagree with.

As SeventeenF illustrated there is a relation to sales to reviews to every product, completely independent of the previous versions and the annual metamorphosis to a new iteration.

However, I completely agree to your point of vanishing old reviews (and this done pretty intentionally by DTG).

Yes, but the problem is new costumers (and I would say even very few old and experienced ones) look for the reviews on the listed DLCs for previous TSW versions. And in my opinion this brings even a bigger issue as sideffect although DTG thinks they're smart doing this.

Dovetail Games thinks they profit from this strategy to vanish the old and sometimes negative reviews to the projects. However, and this is at least my perception and opinion, nothing better explanatory for a DLC to have negative reviews - which also can highlight positive things - than no reviews at all. The latter is the case to many "new" TSW4 DLC versions.

If I want to buy a DLC, it's 100 times better if I exactly know what its disadvantages and advantages are, and then I - as the one building my own opinion - can judge thoroughly about whether or not I want to purchase it. However, if I see no reviews or comments to a product, it makes me feel, why does this DLC or product have no reviews? Did anyone purchased it even? Or is this fake?

Important that you need imagine a potential new costumer to the franchise, who don't know anything about Train Sim World or Dovetail Games. And if a product has no reviews attached, it's very likely that it gives concerns to the potential buyer why this is the case.

That's also the reason why something like the Amazon Vine program (in whom I was participant for a year) does exist and Amazon allowed us to write negative reviews as well (at least for the most part but that's another story).

Unfortunately, DTG didn't got that problematic well enough and this also can be a reason why the sales of just the same DLC, but in the TSW4 version with no reviews attached, might sell a bit worse than the version to its TSW3 counterpart.

I, as an experienced one of that circumstance, know where I need to look for if I want to have some honest (and at all) reviews. But many new costumers do not know that, and having reviews on a place they don't know to look for/know that it does exist equals having no reviews to build your own opinion, which is bad for TSW and Dovetail.

 

Successful - maybe.
Historic - very doubtful!

Unless you read it in the context it's using old historical railways. As opposed to kids in generations to come being taught about the greatest video game of all times.

 

I have a genuine hatred at modern emus but old emus like dinosaurs or old southern stuff are beasts

 

This. Also the problem with the modern one handle EMU’s is they tend to be so powerful even significant gradients present no problem. Running the 4EPB on South London Network in TSC, there’s a few locations where it struggles a bit and acceleration is somewhat more ponderous than Electrostars et al.

 

We are in the age where challenges are surviving with only 50% phone battery or pondering who to subscribe to for energy drink advice.

 

Yes, there's nothing wrong with electric traction per se. It's these colorful, silent- running toy-like emus with their prison cell style windshields that are so tedious. The old slam door trains were at least
noisier and a little more challenging to drive. The Woodhead electrics too were vastly more interesting than those on recent routes.
But I seriously doubt that any of those will ever be seen in TSW.

 

Stop crying mate. Unfortunately for yous the modern stuff sells better as its what we see now so we basically get to relive our life in a game.

 

Hmm. Your life maybe.

 

I think a well-simulated train is what sells, whether it's ancient or modern

 

This is the reason why casual players are now crying in their reviews of LIRR. Beeping is annoying for some people. Realism and simulation? Nah...

 

Yeah because I live in 2024 not 1924

 

If and I mean if ... just trains sold their own train simulator, focusing on uk FOR PC AND CONSOLES. Tsw franchise will be GONE!

 

These things are never a good idea. Once again, let me explain:

• Only in the past three or so years has Just Trains become a good developer of routes. Most of their older content for TS, both routes and trains, are unbearable awful and/or broken to this day.
• Their rolling stock in TS still is not that good. The Voyager is from the Rail Simulator days and looks it, the Meridian is still broken, and the Class 60 is horribly dated. They have not released a single train that is anywhere near as good as AP despite being in the business for the same amount of time and pricing them very closely to AP products in some cases.
• The Metropolitan Line comes with no functional stock, requiring a further expensive purchase to get just one variant of the S stock. To get the full package, with both trains and the announcement system, you must pay £87, which is totally unacceptable.

Please do not believe that Just Trains would make a better train simulator. I think a lot of TSW have seen one very good route of theirs in TSW and automatically assumed that they are the greatest developer in train simulator history who can do no wrong, but believe me they are not.

 

Simrail had potential but it seems already locked down as there’s no word of the announced editor and they seem more focused on a move to console (sound familiar?). Any future addons look like “partnership” DLC, and as I’ve previously stated, only Microsoft could transform the market by bringing back to life MSTS, but that is just wishful thinking!

 

Indeed. They aced with BPO because the route and train building team was strong, though I still don't think the Pacer sounds quite like a TL11 version. The fact it encompassed the best of BR Classic also endeared it to many of us more readily than if they'd gone for a modern route with one handled EMU.

However they gave us some very dubious stuff for TSC particularly in the early days - Edinburgh to Dundee relying heavily on default Kuju assets and using the Thames Trains liveried Class 166 to run many of the services.

The TSC Met Line is nicely made but as stated without a sale or bundle it is a huge sum of money to get the full package. The route can be temperamental when it comes to saving and resuming and is plagued by what appears to be excessive enforcement of LUL approach release speed signalling making it easy to SPAD or requiring you to crawl at 5 MPH for a considerable distance.

They also seem to have thoroughly turned their backs on any pretence at improving the SP game and any form of save or checkpoint system. I refunded the ET22 pack and uninstalled the main game in disgust. Waste of HD space, IMHO.

 

Glad to see my thread is still doing well 97 pages later , also glad to see all the bickering and childish behaviour has calmed down. To everyone keeping this thread alive I made this thread for you and anyone else that felt the same as I did. I still haven't brought TSW4 have had a look at my friends though who have brought it. And I still see no difference between this one and the 3rd one so my point still stands this was just a cash grab, they could of easily added any of the new routes TSW4 has received to 3 with no issues they just ticked a box on UE4 and added fog it was nothing game changing. But anyway thankyou all for keeping this post going I may not be playing TSW4 but I always drop into the thread every now and again to see how it's doing

 

Since the days of Weird heavy metal chat full of heroes and adventures (or sth like that) on Metal Forever forum I have missed such a good joke thread as this, this one even has its fledgling spawns, almost like Cthulhu *starts babbling in Elder tongues mauahahahahahah*

cheers and a bucket of imaginary popcorn for everyone

 

Just saw this over at the Catan forums... shame.

https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/online-random-board-generator.79037/

 

Which of these is more visually appealing to you;

This


or this?

 

That's a longstanding bug with the F7 (Clinchfield as well as Santa Fe). It's recoverable- go to the rear engine, kill the bell, make sure the setup is correct. Probably release brakes.

 

I've said it before, it's a DTG issue, rather than a certain game issue, there are fundamental management problems, I bet things behind the scenes are a nightmare.

 

That's why it's important to keep the boiler at pressure, know what I'm saying...

 

For page 98 here one italian regional train that entered in service at 98 and still run today: the TAF (treno alta frequentazione) and yes, is old as me

 

Enough is never enough, aim for the stars. If you fail then at least you tried. Which is more than DTG does.

 

Funny lookin’ thing…

 

The Washington Metro has 98 stations!

 

Ah that reminds me of Fallout 3. Good times, good times

 

It’s unique architecture for a metro isn’t it?

 

Well it's certainly quite recognizable Especially the first picture.

Talk about another game with a plethora of bugs, by the way :')

 

Noo, I took the TSR just yesterday, i.e. its Trenord version .
It's one of the strangest EMUs you can see around... Maybe only Japanese can create something more "unique"!

 

Stockholm has 100, so ours is a little bit better
Here's one of them, Rinkeby, opened 1975.

 

You came too early. We're on page 98.

 

I'm guessing DTG's one programmer on staff was probably busy fixing bugs on either Bass Master, TSC 2024 or TSW4 and couldn't find time to fix the random number generator.

 

Oh no, I blame it on the fact that we swedes are soo far ahead that we already are on page 100

 

It’s a matter of quality, not quantity.

We have Wheaton Station, a red line station opened in 1990, that has 230ft (70m) escalators which are the longest escalators in the western hemisphere!

 

Very true, I'm sure yours have better frequency as well
Our longest are 66 meters, also from 1975, soon we will have 80 meters long escalators

 

Sometimes but not always! As for the escalators, they’re pretty reliable. A huge project is currently underway to replace 130 escalators across 32 stations by 2028!

 

We're just about done replacing the oldest, some of them dating back to the late 60s when the stations originally opened, so I've heard anyway. Seems like we have a lot in common

 

I am the Memelord von Memefief, in a parallel dimension to the Kingdom of Fife and Sixth

 

To be accurate, the game should deduct points for being on time, and add bonuses for lateness