For me, at least currently on TSW4 I get 60fps pretty steady in MOST situations on PS5. Drops to between 30-45 in busier areas or stations but by no means unplayable or worth the downgrade to PS4 graphics and timetable IMO. Series X similar performance but slightly smoother (passengers don't seem to hit the Xbox as hard as the PS5 for example).
Wrong, Xbox One family runs on technology from 2012, in the case of the X1X the GPU uses tech from 2016 Xbox Series Family uses Zen 2 Arch that launched in early 2019
In any case, as this is not DTG's but a user's poll, it's irrelevant (just like the HST raised driver cam was dismissed in a poll but nevertheless they did it and later applied it to the EMT HST). DTG would be stupid to leave an important source of revenue behind.
Next ironing proposal Commuter and branchline railways holding back the development of high speed and north american class 1 freight routes. => So drop the development of commuter and branchline railways.
Look, we're nearly 4 years into this new console generation, people have had enough time to save up now, there is literally no excuse now, I can't remember this many people clinging onto gen 7 this many years in when gen 8 was the latest and greatest.
DTG will decides about this topic on the base of economic figures, not because on the the base of und representative poll.
It's up to DTG. If they don't see the value in it, they won't do it. Also, not everyone can afford it (yes, even those who earn a decent wage). There's your excuse. Either that, or there are other priorities their money is better spent on.
Or players don't play games that requires a gen 9 console. Finances are much harder than just save up. Some people live paycheck to paycheck or they simply don't have enough after prioritizing spending on other more important needs. Regardless, dtg will decide when it's appropriate
Part of it is the lack of killer games for the new generation only that EVERYBODY has to play. Where is the Gen 9 equivalent of RDR2? Studies indicate that the most-played games out there are old ones - 8th or even 7th-gen releases. Modern games frankly aren't good enough on the whole to persuade people to part with 4-500 dollars for a new console.
And even if players could afford the new generation console, sometimes it just doesn't make financial sense. The only game I play on PS is TSW. If Sony releases a new console every 6 years (https://www.quora.com/Should-Sony-r...very-7-years-makes-sense-because-it-s-a-delay) and the PS5, costs ~£500 quid, a cost of nearly £85 per year in addition to any DLC just doesn't make sense. The performance of the PS4, while not as high resolution as the PS5, is ok and I'd rather just use the PS4 until it no longer receives security updates from Sony. At that point, I'll probably either buy a PS5 (or even PS6 by that point), bite the bullet and purchase a Gaming PC and repurchase the good DLC I had on PS, or be done with TSW. Unfortunately due to a busy schedule, I'm finding less and less time to play it anyway.
It's already been debated many times, but DTG will likely keep gen 8 as long as TSW stays on UE4 as it still brings in too much cash to ignore. I would guess maybe 5 years of so from now we might see an announcement for TSW's successor, no doubt running on UE5 (or even UE6, who knows).
Actually I think DTG should drop the PC version and focus exclusively on consoles. Come to think about it: Highly standardized hardware with very few stray versions. Finally DTG could get their hands on optimization as it should be. Rather than trying to untie the gordian knot by supplying software for a zillion BIOS-, MB-, memory-, video- and sound-card versions/combinations etc. including their respective drivers. Dev time will go down and so will the prices. Bug fixing made hundreds of times faster and more efficient. More frequent fix releases on limited platforms, much easier manageable. Goodbye wrong build release™. The poor, over-exploited console user wouldn't need to contribute anymore so that the PC Master Race can have their low cost DLCs released. The cash stays in the pool. PS4 players pay half the price for having available only half of the features. So it goes for 8th Gen XBox. I kinda like the idea. (Alright, alright, that was tongue in cheek .............. butbutbut ...... when you think about it.... )
I was all ready to take the plunge and buy a PS5 until DTG pulled the rug out from under me. They decided not to make any more steam content and to concentrate on eras I'm not interested in and as a result I haven't driven a train for months. The projected class 104 is the only glimmer of hope on the horizon. Haven't bought anything since Blackpool Branches.
It’s clear that if tsw is to reach its full potential, then pc, ps5 and Xbox series x are the only systems that could handle it
How is this STILL a topic of discussion. Is this just gonna be the rival to "Is TSW5 happening soon?" Threads that pop up every like 3 months.. except for this it's every 6 months. Like, come on, just wait until DTG says something, let them make the decision and let people play what they want on whatever platform they want. Because while I do understand that Gen 8 is pulling things down a bit.. people aren't just gonna scrounge up money out of nowhere for a brand new console/PC. Im not saying this to be rude but If you have a problem with Gen 8 existing still, then you're very welcome to switch over to ZUSI, TSC, SimRail or Run 8
Basically this. TSW is not the trend setting game that's going to make the masses move onto the next generation of consoles, DTG will likely follow the movement of the industry's heavy hitters. While it's a long way off right now, I imagine GTA VI will be the game that gets players to switch up to the current generation. By then, Gen 10 will probably be starting to rear it's head and there will be a thread demanding that DTG drop Gen 9... Watch this space!
Honestly, while a lot of the electronics are pretty resilient, I don't recommend dropping gen8 consoles, the shells on them are pretty flimsy plastic, and there's a good chance splinters of them could get anywhere.
You guys need to make a more optimised version of routes released in TSW4 because they all lag and are fuzzy. BML with its over 1000 services and 50 miles runs better than Goblin a 13 mile route with a fraction of the services BML has.
No doubt economics will be the decider, though a big reason behind my decision to vote to drop is I find it unfair on the gen 8, it seems pretty obvious no further work will be done to stop the crashes etc, you will have to put up with them if you want to use it on gen 8.
They desperately need to make a new game entirely. Having basically 4 games into one and consuming massive storage space is getting far out of hand. On an Xbox series x it takes forever to even load anything, CC takes a solid 2 to 3 min to load. I've got 59 total DLC and I've had to uninstall 19 DLC just to get somewhat of a playable experience. I realize this is unfortunate in regards to losing all the layers from previous routes, but you can still play the game with all it has. I just think it's time to clean the slate and start fresh. I'd personally like to see them go next Gen only, just PC, XBSX and PS5.
PS5 Pro compatibility should be added to the must have features of TSW5 alongside working train suspension and bug fixes for problems dating back to TSW 2020 and TSW2. I must confess that the "suspense" is getting too much for me as I excitedly await the release of TSW5 and all the amazing promised features that may have been promised numerous times previously but are now going to happen for certain. I am sure I am not alone in feeling that way and am itching to get my hands on the new version of TSW even though I have not got a PS5 pro ultra enhanced uber-console yet. Is there any way I can pre-order TSW5 even though it has not been officially announced? I realise DTG need to recoup the immense development outlays that brought us station cats and functional umbrellas and as such I would be ready to put down up to £120 (British pounds) to secure my copy and be at the front of the queue.
It would be a bad idea, it doesn’t solve a storage issue at all, what you have still is the same size, all it does is make everything separate which kills the layers that’s it.
Can you just outline for me what exactly this is - what screens etc? Can't think of anything in creators club that should be going this slow so i'll want to take a look in to it. Matt.
Apparently I exaggerated a bit I used a stop watch and it takes roughly 1 minute to load the "online sharing hub". It does seem to take longer with more DLC installed, I currently have 40 out of 59 installed. I may just be impatient, apologies.
My game works way faster loading when I only have a few DLC installed. Are you on Playstation perhaps? They got optimized so this isn't a problem I believe.
This is a separate thing to what you quoted but I use series x and its load up times I have increased myself by moving it to external storage in order to not eat the internal storage. I value internal storage more than load up times.
Not all users purchased them 8 years ago. I only purchased mine 4 years ago. replacing a 4 year old console doesn't seem like the best use of money or resources.
Seem to be a large customer base still, and we all are profiting from the cash Gen8 players put in DTG's pockets, willing to play a degraded version of the game. No reason to drop it.
Ah, picked it up when prices were slashed in the wake of the 9th gen consoles launching? Not the worst idea, I certainly do it for preservation purposes, hence my large collection of retro consoles.
10 years and 6 months old, in fact. Which puts us at about 6 months out from the age at which MS ceased all production of XBox 360 hardware, but 5 years older than the Wii U made it to.
According to the graphs, I don't think previous gen console support is going anywhere soon. At least it looks like it. It's in French, there's a English version somewhere. 20240228_document_support_reunion_dinformation_vf.pdf (focus-home.com)
I think that gen 8 consoles should be dropped because due to them the rest of the game is lagged in terms of features/scale. But if keeping gen 8s is necessary but progress is necessary also, certain DLCs and or features should not be included.
We're probably reaching the outer limits of ongoing major support for them. With the XBox One we are now four years out from the complete cessation of production, and two years after the PS4's production ended. By way of comparison, at this point in the XBox 360's lifespan, the Series X and S had already launched.
Gen 8 is not stopping DTG from implementing any features or holding back the scale of routes in any way. Anything they can add to further the sim will just be omitted from the last gen consoles, it’s purely down to what DTG can do with the time they’ve got
More Gen7 was REALLY long compared to anything before or since. It was the last time consoles launched that had hardware that outperformed the capabilities of the home PCs of the time, at least for most of 2005-6
