Brand New Mml Secrets

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  1. sparky373

    sparky373 New Member

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    I'm not gonna say how I know but that is a 373 blueprint (with colour changed)
     
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  2. Mikey_9835

    Mikey_9835 Well-Known Member

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    So this thread contains more speculation than I expected and since I've just seen a YouTube video falsely claiming the 373 is coming to TSW using my images as proof I would just like to remind everyone this is not confirmation a Class 373 is in the works. For those unaware the 373 is a running gag in the community (especially on Discord) and several devs are aware of this and make fun of it all the time, the scenario "373 Sugar Beets" on Niddertalbahn is a callback to this. Adam is also a huge fan of these units which is why you'll find a bunch of Eurostar pics on his Flickr profile. I'll also leave this response from Adam.
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    Speculation is fine but people making videos "confirming" something that isn't real is not ok, by all means make a video or continue to use this thread to discuss the POSSIBILITY of the unit coming to the game but please don't twist the narrative to get clicks, thanks.
     
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  3. sparky373

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    So I'm not confirming that a eurostar is coming. What I am saying is that that blueprint is a colour changed version of the actual 90s blueprints used to build the train (F11621 sheet 3/5) for that specific one. It's an internal eurostar document that skyhook wouldnt have without having gotten it from eurostar. Does this mean it's definitly coming? No. Does this mean some level of research and talks have happened? seems like.

    And I dont have authorisation so no I will not be uploading the full size version
     
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  4. Mikey_9835

    Mikey_9835 Well-Known Member

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    My response wasn't directly aimed at you Sparky you're good :)
     
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  5. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Well it definitely has buffers but it looks like a gangway connection at the front so maybe a Class 123 Inter City DMU or possibly Scottish 126 which had Class 120 front at one end and gangway at the other, or it could be a Class 309 Clacton unit. Of course neither of those would fit on any route currently in TSW but either would be most welcome!

    Time to fire up the MML and check out the update, also decided to finally throw Cargo Line 1 in there.
     
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  6. Dan Hill

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    Not so much a secret, but as someone who owns West Cornwall Steam Railtour and Flying Scotsman, I did both Scotsman railtours set to December and on the morning leg, I passed the Festive Jubilee railtour between East Midlands Parkway and Loughborough and on the evening leg as I was boarding passengers at Leicester, the Festive Jubilee tour arrived into the station just prior to my departure.
     
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  7. sparky373

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    Only eurostar on the laptop. the top 4 are cross sections through the power car.
    The middle is top down internal layout
    the bottom is top down view
     
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  8. TS_trainspotter

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    Everybody is talking about the 373 but... Did anyone notice the plan in the upper left corner of the first photo? Seems to be an upside-down very heavy duty (at least 12 axles) torpedo wagon (is that the correct name?), used in steelworks. Can't work out which country it belongs to, though
     
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  9. Dan Hill

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    Thought I'd quote my previous reply to say there is another Easter Egg regarding the Scotsman Railtours, the public information screens at the stations say it is a Railway Touring Company service, who are the real primary charter company that operates Scotsman on the mainline.
     
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    meridian#2659 Well-Known Member

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    Good spot! Yes those are used in germany for sure. No idea about the uk.
     
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    Yeah they are used in the german steelworks in the Ruhr area, I don't think I've seen many for UK and USA, and the ones I saw were fairly smaller, 4-6-8 axles I believe, but there might be some bigger ones around in those two countries. I really hope it's not only a drawing but something they are looking forward to put into the game, it would give us a very different experience with really extensive busy shunting routines
     
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    Torpedo cars are used in the UK, but only usually within the steel works.

    When I worked at the Scunthorpe Steel Works, they never left our site and were only used to transfer iron from the blast furnace to the BOS plant.
     
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  13. 85hertz

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    I think that's a bit less likely, I believe DTG did rule out any further extensions to SEHS. Even if they were to go back on their word I'd think they'd be a bit cautious as some would be saying the time could've been spent on another route.

    I think something which would be more likely is the operation of the 373 between Waterloo and Ashford, which would also be quite fun (although I'm not too familiar), and maybe chuck in Victoria for good measure. It would be a solid run I'd think, and I do quite like the idea of switching power-modes in between - makes it all the more fun. :D

    Having the 373 works as well as since SEHS is a DTG route I think they'd be more likely to layer it onto the route when it comes around, and you could still do St Pancras to Ashford runs (not to mention at a higher speed than the Javelins).

    However I think the Eurostar license is the main problem so I feel like it's just a bit of a tease, but who's to say it has to be with Eurostar!!

    GNER operated the 373s from Kings Cross to Leeds, so could it be a hint we are getting Kings Cross to Peterborough, or even extend it up to Leeds in the 2000s?! Although generally people prefer modern routes I'm sure even those who don't like the older stuff would allow a pass if it meant we got a 373!!! I for one don't mind that.

    SNFC also ran a few 373s, no? If it is still feasible for the developers to include all the safety systems I think that could be done. According to Wikipedia, they mainly ran between Paris and Lille, however they did sometimes run as far as Le Touquet (a place I want to visit, apparently very nice to fly in as a GA pilot :p). I'm not up to date with the licensing, but we do have the SNCF branding on the French routes so could that be posssible!?!?!?!?!?
     
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    I suppose it may just possibly be the case that since DTG is now owned by Focus, a French company, Eurostar might thaw out.
     
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  15. elaineedwards2013

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    I happened to find the second secret on Midland Mainline too. It does look like a Class 373 (e300) Eurostar and I am hoping it can be included in TSW 4.
     
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    The Class 123 would fit DLoGW as they were in service around 1971. The Class 126 would fit as a "Legends" type add on for Edn-Gla. Personally I would love to see either of these finally arrive to TSW.
     
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    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    Having looked at the image again, although low resolution, it does not look particularly like a Class 123. The lower valance looks far too tapered inwards like on the Class 442. This could in fact be the Class 373 from the number 2 end with gangway to the passenger cars.
     
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    What you mean these? The same ones that are in the office on the wall in the training center?

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    Unfortunately thats the only thing that can be aaded to SEHS (and for Brighton Mainline for that matter) as there are just too many layers in the routes to add any more and to have them both running to a point where your PC or Console wont say "nope" and emits a mushroom cloud lol. Hence why its only scenarios for the Aggregates pack on South Eastern Highspeed. Now having said that mind SEHS I believe is the route with the most scenarios on it 29 at the last count, in the game. But there is nothing stopping a Third party from creating a brand new timetable with out certain non essential layers included.

    Regards
    Hentis
     
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    meridian#2659 Well-Known Member

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    Does all that really mean something? I doubt..., at pulton le fylde (blackpool branches), there is a class 50 on a pic visible through glasses. Its confirmed that there isnt a hint etc., at least jt mentioned they put "randome" pics
     
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  20. TS_trainspotter

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    Sorry I've been quite inactive on the forums so I've seen your reply just now, yes they look the same, I never saw them in the office of the training center. So they could be a much older idea/project that never saw sunlight, or something that is really further away perhaps in need of new features or game mechanics, but I'm almost dreaming at this point :D
     
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    Lol thats fine.
     
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    On Santa Express there's a book with a first generation DMU on the cover. It's just a fun little Easter egg as well
     
  23. Mikey_9835

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    Power Station -> Electricity -> 25Kv -> Overhead Wires -> Class 373
    It make sense !!
     
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  25. elaineedwards2013

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    How do you know?
     
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    MaxBenchip Well-Known Member

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    Oh I'm just hoping that it's true, like you :)
     
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  27. TS_trainspotter

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    It certainly is that location, but I can't workout what's different in the sound. It sounds different from the 66 we have now but I don't know if it's a tweaked sound or something new. I'm not really familiar with UK loco sounds so I'm waiting for someone who knows better :)
     
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    Love the cargo packs. Keep them coming
     
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