Pis Br423

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  1. bassv#9864

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    mkraehe#6051 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, I'm afraid I can't. The 423 has the old PIS system, and I have no idea how that works myself. I've only ever used trains that have the newer, dynamic PIS setup.
     
  4. Spikee1975

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    Destination table is stored in here:

    TS2Prototype\Plugins\DLC\MAG_DB_BR423\Content\Simulation\Components\BP_MAG_DB_BR423_DestinationDisplayController.uasset

    Code:
    0   NameProperty       Nicht Einsteigen                   0   13655  
    1   NameProperty       S1 Flughafen Airport                   0   13663  
    2   NameProperty       S1 Freising                   0   13671  
    3   NameProperty       S1 Hauptbahnhof                   0   13679  
    4   NameProperty       S1 Leuchtenbergring                   0   13687  
    5   NameProperty       S2 Dachau Bahnhof                   0   13695  
    6   NameProperty       S2 Petershausen                   0   13703  
    7   NameProperty       S2 Altomünster                   0   13711  
    8   NameProperty       S2 Erding                   0   13719  
    9   NameProperty       S2 Markt Schwaben                   0   13727  
    10   NameProperty       S2 Ostbahnhof                   0   13735  
    11   NameProperty       S3 Mammendorf                   0   13743  
    12   NameProperty       S3 Maisach                   0   13751  
    13   NameProperty       S3 Pasing                   0   13759  
    14   NameProperty       S3 Hauptbahnhof                   0   13767  
    15   NameProperty       S3 München Ost                   0   13775  
    16   NameProperty       S3 Deisenhofen                   0   13783  
    17   NameProperty       S3 Holzkirchen                   0   13791  
    18   NameProperty       S4 Geltendorf                   0   13799  
    19   NameProperty       S4 Trudering                   0   13807  
    20   NameProperty       S4 Grafing Bahnhof                   0   13815  
    21   NameProperty       S4 Buchenau                   0   13823  
    22   NameProperty       S4 München Ost                   0   13831  
    23   NameProperty       S4 Leuchtenbergring                   0   13839  
    24   NameProperty       S4 Ebersberg Oberbay                   0   13847  
    25   NameProperty       S4 Zorneding                   0   13855  
    26   NameProperty       S4 Berg-Am-Laim                   0   13863  
    27   NameProperty       S4 Grafrath                   0   13871  
    28   NameProperty       S6 Tutzing                   0   13879  
    29   NameProperty       S6 Starnberg                   0   13887  
    30   NameProperty       S6 Pasing                   0   13895  
    31   NameProperty       S6 Hauptbahnhof                   0   13903  
    32   NameProperty       S6 München Ost                   0   13911  
    33   NameProperty       S6 Zorneding                   0   13919  
    34   NameProperty       S6 Grafing Bahnhof                   0   13927  
    35   NameProperty       S6 Ebersberg                   0   13935  
    36   NameProperty       S7 Wolfratshausen                   0   13943  
    37   NameProperty       S7 Kreuzstrasse                   0   13951  
    38   NameProperty       S7 Aying                   0   13959  
    39   NameProperty       S7 Höhenkirchen-Sie.                   0   13967  
    40   NameProperty       S7 Höllriegelskreuth                   0   13975  
    41   NameProperty       S8 Flughafen Airport                   0   13983  
    42   NameProperty       S8 Herrsching                   0   13991  
    43   NameProperty       S8 Wessling                   0   13999  
    44   NameProperty       S8 Pasing                   0   14007  
    45   NameProperty       S8 Germering-U.                   0   14015  
    46   NameProperty       Leerfahrt zum Betriebswerk                   0   14023  
    47   NameProperty       None                   0   14031  
    
     
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    No problem, I thought you had used the 423 in your timetable. Thank you for replying anyway!

    Thanks! But how do I use this list? Put the correspondent number in the box at the node information? Edit: that didn't work... I tried "47" and "14031" to no avail.
     
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    Tried to setup to show the correct PIS of the BR 442 from DRA for hours now. I've set up the station directory names for the stations of my route and the accompanying destination names in the nodes in the timetable in so many different ways to match together, but no success. It still always only shows "Nicht Einsteigen".

    Now I even looked up the DestinationController as Spikee1975 mentioned above, but there are no entries set under "Destination List" nor "Destination Map" in this blueprint.

    Screenshot (11235).png

    Also not quite sure how he did read that file. I extracted the file out of the pak with Game Extractor and can open up this way in Notepad. Not as structured as with him but the main entries aren't encrypted. Curious to see that it does not even got a "Nicht Einsteigen" entry. So I wonder where is the "Nicht Einsteigen" stored then?

    Screenshot (11237).png

    How do you set up dynamic PIS boards for newer trains exactly?

    How do you connect the timetable "Stop at" nodes to entries in the station directory?

    Which is the important name to connect the timetable nodes with? Is it the "Station identifier" for the station or the "Display Number" name for an individual platform?

    For example here is the station directory with the entries for Dresden Neustadt. Which of these entries do you use for your timetable? And how do you connect those to Go To/Stop at nodes in the timetable?

    And what roles have the track markers in all of that? As I see it they are used only by the station directory (and of course the spawn point in the Route Defintion), and then the station directory entries are used for the timetable. So they are rather indirectly used, but they should not be actively needed for showing the correct destination on the trains PIS boards I think.

    Screenshot (11239).png
     
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  7. mkraehe#6051

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    You don't need to do anything while making the timetable. The train knows which markers it loads and unloads passengers at, and as you saw, the markers are connected to the station names in the station directory. All you need to set up are the service number (in the service start node) and the virtual destination(s) for trains leaving the map (in the enter portal node).
     
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    Setting up the service number for PIS seems to do nothing here. Not a big nor smaller amount of text in that parameter let the PIS show anything. I tried all names I had available for the station idenifier, station tags and platform names but nothing seems to work.

    For the moment, I have no AIs nor player services on the map which have a destination beyond the map. Not even closely touched the portal or virtual destination topic. All what I did was I created a simple formation and a service starting from location A to location G (crossing over all locations from B to F). I think I setup the station directory correctly, the track markers are all associated to a certain station or better said platform inside of it.

    This is the reason why I asked for how you set it up with your timetable. I used the BR 442 from DRA which you probably have in your timetable as well. So, if there is a special thing about it, I thought maybe asking you.

    But of course, since I'm building a route and its necessary data assets (station directory, route definition etc.) might be that the problem lies anywhere there.

    Not sure whether it is even possible for me to get a working PIS by using a loco from a plugin which is associated with a different map.
     
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  9. mkraehe#6051

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    Nothing at all? I'd expect an empty screen with just the service number (instead of "Nicht Einsteigen") on it at least.

    What exactly do you mean here? Setup of the station directory?

    And you are making it load/unload passengers at these stations as well, right? The PIS goes by where you load and unload passengers, not by where you stop.

    Nope, nothing special about this train at all.

    It is, don't worry. That's the nice thing about the new(er) PIS system.

    Probably. You could check the manual destination selection screen that some locos have: does that display the list of destinations correctly? If not, there's probably something wrong with your station directory.
     
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