Guide Acela: Tips And Tricks

Discussion in 'FAQs & Guides' started by cwf.green, Feb 22, 2023.

  1. Spikee1975

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    Pardon, I thought you said you have tried to reproduce the CC issue and I've seen you stated you cannot, and I was pointing out why that's the case, and why it is irrelevant how things are working on your dev build for the customers.

    Trust your customers. Putting the throttle lever in MIN will apply full power and therefore wheelspin if CC is active.

    Not saying you're responsible for handling reports. Just seeing what's wrong at DTG - their final QA testing is just not done correctly. (Or, the issues are silently accepted, the product will still sell.)

    And DTG is exemplary, most other game devs are happy if stuff gets reported and will thankfully commit to a fix. See SCS software.
     
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  2. cwf.green

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    Me trying to reproduce it in the editor/PC beta build had a very specific purpose: to confirm that it was actually fixed "at the source", so to say, and the issue was caused by a mismatch in the versions.

    Not sure if I stated it before but I'll state it again: I have no control of when builds are made/how they are integrated and so on. That is not my job (and I am a second party developer so I have less insight than someone employed at DTG). I have however informed DTG that this might be the issue at play, but as always when/if they patch things is up to them (if it truly is a difference in builds).
     
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  3. Spikee1975

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    I was not blaming you but the DTG procedures. And I saw you had troubles reproducing the issue, so I just suggested downloading the retail version (I'm sure you don't have to pay for that or can get the cost back via tax declarations) to verify the issues people are having.

    Again: Nothing personal (I'm too much of a Homo Faber for that ;) ) - just seeing a mismatch of perception.

    They shipped a brand new ÖBB 1116 without LZB display, of course customers rightfully expect a note like "Damn! This shouldn't happen - we're making sure to fix this asap!" but it just don't happen.

    I'm with you, it must be a bad thing to see your work being botched by others, and I don't think you can say more on that for NDA reasons, no worries. The customers expect a working product for their money.

    Customer: "Doesn't work"
    Producer: "Don't know what you mean..."
     
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  4. cwf.green

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    You misunderstand the situation. I have explicitly stated that I was not able to reproduce this issue in the editor (and later also in the PC beta build). I don't think I left this vague anywhere I commented on the bug. I was not confused about this bug actually being present in the public builds! The purpose of me testing it in the editor was to make sure that I had actually fixed the bug. It's quite a different issue if the bug is still in the editor (that means it wasn't fixed) vs if it is fixed in the editor but not made public.

    I have not taken anything you wrote personally, but I do think you are mistaken about quite a few of the factual statements you've made in this thread. The primary fallacy is that DTG do not "play the same game they are selling us". They definitely do. One trivial example are the preview streams that are played on the version that will be on release. Of course beta testers and developers are not "playing on the same game they are selling" during development... since that "game" doesn't exist yet.

    I hear you, but I do think this is more appropriately posted in the feedback thread for the Semmeringbahn DLC. After all, this is a thread about giving advice and tips to players when driving the Acela. Discussing the cruise control bug is for sure relevant, but maybe not so much
    bugs on other DLC :)

    I don't think I stated anything to this effect.

    Hopefully I have explained above how this is a misrepresentation of what has happened.

    On topic: I have informed DTG that there might be a mismatch between the builds. I can not guarantee that this is actually the cause of the issue, or when/if it will be fixed, but at least investigating this avenue will lead us closer to a solution.
     
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  5. Spikee1975

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    Fair enough mate. My only interest is solving problems. :)
     
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  6. razmatus#2517

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    heh that reminded me of an old joke meme :D
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    That’s a good one. Going to use that at work lol
     
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    ooooohohooo :D dont get me started on memes, let alone workplace memes :D I am a self-certified memelord :D
     
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    Hello, am I doing something wrong or there is some bug with ACSES? When I am driving ACS-64 there is enough time to slow down after track speed change warning, but when I am driving Acela, speed limit on ACSES monitor is changing silently in the time when it is actually needed to brake, so there is no warning. Alarm engages too late to change speed of the train and it leads to speeding.
     
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    Is it accurate that the train chooses how much power it applies when using cruise control, exceeding the power setting on the right handle? Even on "ready" it goes off like hell. Why bother with a second stick then anyway?
     
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  11. DarkWolf

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    Yeah, it does this when the cruise control is on, even at Ready it goes full throttle. I've often wondered if its intentional or a bug, I assume the latter.

    DW
     
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    It is a bug. However, it has not been present on PC beta builds since at least the beginning of 2024 but more likely even further back to the release in 2023. I just informed DTG (today) in case it may be a merge issue (release builds not being up to date).
     
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    It’s definitely still the case on PS5. If it is actually fixed on your end, the PS5 build certainly needs checking.
     
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    Thank you! The Acela is a very nice train, also in game, but this bug somewhat spoils the experience.
     
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  15. DarkWolf

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    I find this kind of incredible. One of the big criticisms of this game, it is certainly one of my big gripes, is that fixes seem to come at a glacial pace if at all. Its mind bloggling to think they fixed something awhile ago and just never released it. I wonder if there are fixes to other issues in this state.

    DW
     
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  16. Lamplight

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    cwf.green, did DTG ever get back to you about the possibly mismatched builds?
     
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    max power CC issue is still there...
     
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    Difficult to get things done when you're churning out new DLCs like there is no tomorrow.

    Exponential growth of bugs.
     
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    That's exactly why I was hoping to hear back from cwf.green. If this is truly fixed on DTGs' end and we just don't have it, that's a frankly ridiculous release schedule. The DLC was released more than 2 years ago, after all.
     
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  20. DarkWolf

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    They updated the Acela in today's patch but still no fix for the cruise control issue. :(

    DW
     
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  21. li150special

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    Wow.

    Ludwigsbahn Kehre Tunnel vibes incoming.
     
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