Creation Sharing Doncaster To Sheffield + Industrial Yards

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  1. moofers#8902

    moofers#8902 Well-Known Member

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    Just random train getting stuck at signals for no obvious reason, no off path errors, no reserved tracks I really don't get what's up.

    All route tables are correct, getting a bit annoyed with this.
     
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    PIS Screens and Timetable functioning correctly now, still not 100% sure how the system works as spawning at one station doesn't update the PIS until riding a train to a different station.

    But still going through track and signal related stuff.
     
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    So I've done another pass of the map and found a lot of missing gradients and broken tracks, so timetable stuff has been put to side while I work on fixing track and gradient issues. Signals will be checked over and set up for those sections again and then test runs to make sure signals and tracks are good.

    What a pain =P
    And taking notes of which signals are regularly breaking.
     
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    Signals:
    S450
    S862
    S213
    D1458
    S233 seem to be problematic signals that appear quite often in simulation.
     
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    Rotherham Steel Yards Gradients fixed, including junction switches added.
     
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    So while the editor is broken I'll do some model block outs, mainly some custom buffers.

    Also some other models to complete their blockouts.
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    Finished with the blockout for now, there's more to go with this model.
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    Is that the viaduct at Conisborough?
     
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    Yes it is, one of the first blockouts I made. Absolute impressive viaduct its absolute beast when you stand at the base of one those arches.

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    Also the editor was only broken on myside, so I'm back in the editor again now after reinstalling it.
    Okay I found the problem, a signal was causing the map/editor to LOVE out.
     
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    Conisborough Viaduct
    And Conisborough Tunnel to the right just around the corner.
     
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    Ariel view of Sheffield.

    Gradient checks and modifications are almost fully checked.
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    I've had a thought about adding diaramas across the map to make stuff look a little more lively. As I noticed a lot of maps seem a bit dead in terms of people doing their daily stuff. If they can be made to be time based and random too that'd be interesting too.

    People outside pubs, cafes, etc.
     
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    Tinsley Yards Gradients sorted as well as accurate speeds for tracks. Still need to go over the junctions to make sure I've added junction levers.

    Facisnating piece of history about tinsley yards, it had a system where they could let the rolling stock (wagons) roll down the hill it was on with special devices on the track that would control the speed of the rolling stock.

    I'm thinking of putting special collectables that explain the history of each area, it'd be a interesting collectable system if I could pull it off.
     
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    A bit more thought of the previous post, I could have each collectable appear in a hub area on the map (workers office) with old images of the locations history and collectable?

    And the project has been added to Trello board, so you can see whats getting worked on. (When I update it)
    https://trello.com/b/SvLEGS1v/tsw4-south-yorkshire-addon

    Fixed the link.
     
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    Sorry I won't accept any members to the Trello board, it is just to be viewed, this just for keeping a track of things.
     
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    Custom tunnel spline (mesh block out)

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    Clearance is good too =)
     
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    Currently going through moving signals misplaced, laying down safety systems AWS/TPWS/OSS and junctions.
     
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    Keep up the good work. It's already something you can be really proud of
     
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    Working on timetable for today, working on the class800 trains.

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    Update: Change layout made it easier to use.
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    Update2: Showing off the LNER Timetable so far.
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    Exciting!!!!

    Have you got a comprehensive list of what you want the timetable to include?
     
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    I’m basically copying down the real world timetable, so any train that passes or stops at any of the stations along the route will be included.

    Trains that are not in tsw4 will be replaced with its closest class.

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    Though the royal mail terminal may get a fictional service, based on the original timetable if I can find it.
     
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    Radio silence is due to lots of work on the LNER Azuma 225/800/801 services on the timetable, its a beast.

    Also figured what was causing an issue with doors not opening on the ai service, setting parked preset causes issues with the ai.

    Running Parked fixes this issue.
     
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    Sorry about the trello board, it should now be public viewable.
     
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    Looking very exciting!! I haven't had the confidence to use the editor, 3d modelling is not my strong point!

    Keep the good work up :)
     
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    Going on a little hiatus for a bit while i sort out some personal stuff, will be back soon.
     
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    I'm back to working on the timetable, updates will be slow while I deal with other stuff but I'm back =)
     
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    Freight Service Timetable Layer.
     
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    Found a command that helps with making sure the signals and pathing works after doing any changes.
    After changing a signal, press fill.
    Then in the command in the editor enter this "ts2ed.Tools.Dangerous.UpdateSignalRouteSections"
    Then press fill again.

    And it should fix issues with trains stopping at signals for no reason.
     
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    Sneak peek at the excel sheet I've made documenting the load of each freight train.
    Including which wagons I'll use for said services.
     
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    would be really nice to see the cargo line stock make an appearance on some services if possible
     
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    Cargo Line Stock?
     
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    The wagon packs made by Skyhook, they feature some really nice modern wagons. Would be nice to see them on the route in areas and stuff.
     
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    oh yeh those will be in i believe, will be making custom containers too.
    The custom stuff will take a bit more time.
     
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    Extended map down from St.Catherines Jn. to allow players to access this section. (Only for switching ends of train/runarounds).
     

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    Added more track and extended map around treeton junction to allow drivable services from this area.
     
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    I’m looking into making multiple timetables, right now i have the main table which is in development, im looking into an alternative freight table as not all services can run on the main and im looking into making a weekend table that’ll cover the reduced services for sat/sun.

    I’m trying to balance the ai and driveable freight services atm.

    Doncaster and sheffield are busiest stations, the passenger services are not as troublesome as freight.
     
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    No real updates, just transferred everything over to TSW5.
    Worked on the tram section of the route and timetable is coming along slowly.
     
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    Update on timetable, so the freight section of the timetable is quite complicated.
    So I've had to do a bit of cleanup, also changed a few things.

    Other than that major gradient cleanup at the doncaster section of the tracks.
     
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    Updated Chart:
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    Noting down all services that run including train numbers where avaliable.
    Timetable currently has 300+ services with a completed simulated timetable, still need to go through Supertram, 150/158/170 services, including a lot more to check.
     
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    Very cool to see what others put their minds to!
     
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    So currently compiling some new lidar data, to extend map north from swinton and doncaster, possibly going to extend the map to adwick and kirk sandall. Just testing some stuff.

    Also extending down from Tinsley and Sheffield abit to allow more services to be driveable.
    Back to working on track, signals and safety systems haha.

    Timetable will need a little tlc to bring uptodate once new track and stuff is down.

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    Will be seeing the tracks connecting very soon.
    A bit ambitious this is but it'll be fun todo.
     
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    Wow. Stellar progress.
    Sheffield to Doncaster was a regular weekend trip for me and my late Dad.
    Sat on a luggage truck at the end of the platform, chatting with drivers and crew. watching the trains go by.
    Simpler times. :)
     
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    Project is on hold while waiting for a fix for track laying, currently crashes constantly if trying to lay track on new sections.

    But for the wait I've learned how to export and reimport skeleton meshes so liveries will be doable =)
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    Update: Got TSW4 reinstalled and some sorcery to get the map to view again, back to working on tracks again =)
     
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    Track laying process again, then gradient adjustments, signals and safety equipment and then timetable tests.
     
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    Looks great! Its a bit of feature creep, but based on what is present at the Sheffield end, would be cool to see the extremities to make it "complete", specifically Stocksbridge steel plant (or what's left of it) as it still runs the occasional working down the old Woodhead line, and at the other end Kiveton Bridge/Park to bring in Beighton junction and surrounding environs (eg. Killamarsh)
     
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    So I thought about it and I think it shouldn't be to much work to add that section of rail in.

    Also on another note I've decided to extend the map again this time to Thorne, Chesterfield, and Wakefield.
    I'm also placing Lidar data that takes the route to York, but will be something that'll only have track, signals and safety equipment for now while I work on the south yorkshire section of the project.

    This'll be multiple year project, I will also accept scenery/model suggestions (happily would accept models to be submitted to be placed in the map and with credit of course.)

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    Also the reason for the large extension is to allow for more playable map with the high speed to York and freight services across the south yorkshire lines including north yorkshire itself. And yes the York National Railway Musuem Yards will be accessible.

    Last time I check the plugin was only under 4GB, this will change of course.

    Also this is the lidar data count. Dear god.
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    the collection of tracks looks absolutely insane. your progress is immense!
     
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    Some of them are tram tracks, which won't show up ingame.
     
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    Currently laying new tracks for extended areas, these will need to be cleaned up graident wise before placing signals down.
     
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    Final update for tonight, off to bed I go =3
     
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    Looks brilliant. Quick question though...
    I understand it wouldn't be in your scope right now, but is there a possibility in the future to merge this route with the PETERBOROUGH - DONCASTER route?
     
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