This was given away quite horribly by a Workshop tag for the route attaching itself to every single scenario and route posted in the last two months. Metropolitan did the same thing, claiming to be needed for every scenario for two months before it came to Steam. I don't know WTF Steam is doing in their Workshop tags, but they are absolutely busted.
Wasn't that always an issue (not really a problem though) with JT? Metropolitan Line was also a "requirement" for a long time. I don't look at WS reqs though, as I own pretty much everything now.
Out now get it here. https://store.steampowered.com/app/...x_Main_Line_Southampton__Salisbury_Extension/ You also need the Southwestern Mainline route for this to work. https://store.steampowered.com/app/...in_Line_Southampton__Bournemouth_Route_AddOn/
The scenarios for this would be reworked using default stock I'm assuming? Unlike the JT version that uses AP content? Hence why I was a bit sceptical about the 165/166 upgrade - I thought being Steam they'd just be reskins and not upgrade anything
Seems a bit pricey for a relatively short route. Would have been better value going from Portsmouth to Salisbury or maybe Southampton to Westbury. And JT still don’t seem to have much going for building their own stock in TSC, relying on that from default even ancient Kuju or other third parties. Yet they managed to craft the (superb) 142 for TSW! One for a heavily discounted sale I think.
This is TSC, not TSW. Different game, different contracts. Also it's not by DTG, but JT. They don't need a license to ugrade existing GWR stock. (JT released almost the full GWR network)
But, but, but… the working lifts, the fluffy collectible teddy bears and cakes left mouldering in the waiting rooms. And the moths, don’t forget the moths…
It's not isolated to Metropolitan Line. It seems a new tag becomes required for everything periodically. I suspect it is some sly promotional tactic that Steam is employing while daring to tell us that nothing is wrong. Uh, yes, something is wrong when you are going to tell us a new route is required for scenarios created before it comes out...and then suggesting it's needed for everything afterwards, too. A 2018 scenario pack was also used in this position at one time. They replace one false promo tag with another. This is why you never use the Workshop tab. Ever. Install everything manually and then see if it works.
Of course, never ever used the workshop tab. When I was new to TS, I was curious where Steam puts those files and wanted to be independent from author withdrawal of content. So I said you gotta be able to install the stuff just like you would install any 3rd party content. Assets to Assets, Content to Content. Subscribe via Steam client, copy the stuff directly from the download folder to RailWorks, unsubscribe. No corruption, no syncing delays. WS tab empty. Drive tab full of scenarios and routes for a whole lifetime
I know the feeling… I started doing a play through of my routes in alphabetical order, starting in Career. Got to the C’s where I admit to skipping past Cajon and Clinchfield but then along came a sale dropping in a couple of new Scottish routes. Set off on a Scottish Railrover type journey but then this week, along comes the Swiss content sale so filled out my RhB collection and the Scottish Rover morphed into a Swiss Travel Card. Maybe next week I will go back to my alphabet discipline then after doing a run through Career, have to start all over again with standard. Then there’s the nagging distraction of the cash cow, sorry TSW, SimRail, Run 8, ETS2 and ATS, Snowrunner and OMSI 2, not to mention unaliving unwary goons in Sniper Elite 4!
I use a randomizer to select my next scenario. I select several train models and use that as the target selection. I then publish my history in my web site.
Same... for freeware dependencies, the vehicle included, to support the developer or just because it was on sale for such a massiv discount. If something is 70-80% discount, I tend to pick it up, even if I don´t want it. It´s like stamp collecting.
Sorry to go OT from the thread, but would you mind mentioning the name of the randomiser software? Did a quick Google and not finding anything useful (or free!).
I try not to involve myself in those. However, when I sent a message to Steam advising them of the error and they told me DTG would have to fix it...needless to say, the logic of this response failed me. I asked how the heck DTG is supposed to fix it and they closed my ticket. So yes, something weird is going on. For the last couple of weeks I decided it was time to explore the rest of the ETS2 map and 100% it. Spain took a while...then Finland was done in a couple of days. Funny, that. When the northern territories DLC comes out with more of Finland and Norway (and maybe Sweden?), that will expand them dramatically. Midnight sun, anyone? Need to look on ATS again as my previously 100% California has been completely dismembered with some places removed and new ones added; at least New Mexico, Nevada, and Arizona are still mostly complete. Still have to go to DLC states. Have not bought Texas yet. It's higher priced than the others so I want it at 50% off to get even lower in the other bundle (though I don't need the truck skins). All in this boat, please toot your whistle. *toot*
AFAIK the Northern Territories is in Australia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Territory Maybe you are thinking of Scandinavia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia Which also includes Denmark And I don't know of any Payware DLC that has Denmark, Finland, Norway or Sweden
Think we are talking ETS2 here, Pete. After Greece, the next territory is Scandinavia though the extent TBC.
Texas is the largest state released so far in ATS and is worth the few extra ££ over the other DLC state costs. The map reworks are a good idea but do mess with roads and cities already done/visited.
I house all of my data in MS Access. Every route is catalogged (TS Tool is a good way to grab this info). I then run a simple 'RANDBETWEEN' function in Excel to select it. Here is my list so far: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...iO3XKWyBO7OkCAf0Dz9t2JhBE/edit?usp=drive_link I have included the random function at location A1. You should be able to use the filters to select different DLC or Locos. This is my complete list. It will most likely not be the same as yours, however, I suspect there will be some carryover. I have included the absolute GUID addresses, supplier and pack they have come from. If you refresh the screen the random number at A1 will change for you Respectfully
What the heck has this got to do with the:- Just Trains - Southampton-salisbury Extension Do you ever bother to read the title of the thread you are posting in? Or do you just derail threads for the hell of it?
Thread drift. It happens. No one was harmed or died in the writing of the various musings. But back on topic, maintain this would have been better as a longer route and a different period, though I guess at least the 166’s don’t look out of place compared to other JT routes.
The class 165/166 enhancements are more than I was excepting. Acutally fun to drive now. The route itself is also done really, really well. I´m not really bothered about the area, but the route is great. Definitely in the top ten of UK routes. the main critic I was reading with this route is that does not go Westbury and join up with Southwestern Expressways.
I'm guessing you have the JT version or do you have the steam version. As mentioned in my above comment, I'm a bit sceptical getting the steam version given wouldn't they be reskins of the 165/166 and not upgrade anything else for them?
The Steam version contains all of the same upgrades to the 165/166 that the JT website version has. The only difference is the Steam version is unbranded whereas the JT website version is branded.
The 165/166 manual is called the Class 165-166 Enhanced Manual DTG with photos of the unbranded trains.
Just Trains Wessex Main Line Steam Edition. Driving the first scenario Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central after leaving Southampton Station and heading to Romsey Station you get about 3 speed restrictions in a row. I acknowledge them when the AWS goes off but still, the emergency brakes come on. This from the 165 manual on the emergency brake situations. As the manual doesn't have a diagram showing you where everything is in the cab I don't know what is what although it has a chart of what the controls etc do. From my understanding, the emergency brake will come on if you are approaching a permanent speed restriction too quickly. How fast is too quickly? Emergency Braking Situations Whilst driving, there are several situations where you may be brought to a stop by an emergency brake application. Each one has different outcomes and methods for getting underway again. Each of these is detailed below. 1) Pressing the Emergency Brake button: Once the unit has come to a stop, move the PBC to the Off position. You must then wait 60 seconds before applying power again to obtain a brake release. As per reality (although a heavily frowned upon practice), you can circumvent this 60 second timer by moving the PBC to the Off position, and the Reverser to the Neutral position, before uninserting the Master Key. You can then reinsert the Master Key and move the Reverser to your desired direction and reapply power. 2) Failing to acknowledge the DVD within 2.7 seconds: Once the unit has come to a stop, move the PBC to the Off position. You must then wait 60 seconds before applying power again to obtain a brake release. As per reality (although a heavily frowned upon practice), you can circumvent this 60 second timer by moving the PBC to the Off position, and the Reverser to the Neutral position, before uninserting the Master Key. You can then reinsert the Master Key and move the Reverser to your desired direction and reapply power. 3) Failing to acknowledge an AWS Warning within 2.7 seconds: After the emergency brake applies, the Brake Demand light will flash on the TPWS panel. Once the unit has come to a stop, move the PBC to the Off position and acknowledge the Brake Demand light by pressing Q. After acknowledging, the Brake Demand light will stop flashing and illuminate for a further 60 seconds. After this time, the Brake Demand light will extinguish, and you can obtain a brake release and reapply power. Page 8 of 15 As per reality (although a heavily frowned upon practice), you can circumvent this 60 second timer by moving the PBC to the Off position, and the Reverser to the Neutral position, before uninserting the Master Key. You can then reinsert the Master Key and move the Reverser to your desired direction and reapply power. 4) Tripped by a TPWS TSS (after a SPAD) or TPWS OSS (approaching a red signal or permanent speed restriction (PSR) too quickly): After the emergency brake applies, the Brake Demand light will flash on the TPWS panel. Once the unit has come to a stop, move the PBC to the Off position and acknowledge the Brake Demand light by pressing Q. After acknowledging, the Brake Demand light will stop flashing and illuminate for a further 60 seconds. After this time, the Brake Demand light will extinguish, and you can obtain a brake release and reapply power. As per reality (although a heavily frowned upon practice), you can circumvent this 60 second timer by moving the PBC to the Off position, and the Reverser to the Neutral position, before uninserting the Master Key. You can then reinsert the Master Key and move the Reverser to your desired direction and reapply power.
Have you run over a TPWS grid? If so, double clicking it in the editor to bring up it's properties will show you at what speed it takes effect.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I'd say a TPWS grid protecting a red should be passed below 20 mph, at station buffer stops it's common practice to run below 10 mph over the grid. (Taken from a real driver's post somewhere in the TSW forums, I think that referred to Gospel Oak).
London Victoria on the Chatham Mainline caught me out arriving at about 15 mph and it tripped on me. I will try Gary's idea and use the Properties to see the trip speed.
It is because they were originally done in a 1:35 and are being remapped to 1:20. An unnecessary evil. I see someone hired you to go after me after he got banned. You seem to forget this is a train discussion forum. Discussions get off track sometimes but they do go back. London Victoria on the London-Brighton route is exactly the same. It's the station settings. One scenario I know is impossible by the timetable and I tried to rush in only to have to come to a stop partway out of the station - and still be late. Brighton has the same trip sensors, I think, at the other end.
It's not the "station settings", there is no such thing; as already explained it is the TPWS grid properties. These apply to trains running on railways in Great Britain and have no bearing whatsoever on what trucks may or may not encounter in Texas!
In all my 14 years of having TSC, this is the first time that I have come across TPWS so it caught me out. I did the scenario again and slowed down to 15 MPH quite a bit before it and got through but then got caught out again approaching the 20 MPH sign coming into Romsey station. About where the first TPWS is there is a little blue sign with 15 MPH on it.
