Dovetail Indirect

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  1. Jamy

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  3. derek#2931

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    That actually had me howling
     
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    I couldnĀ“t stop screaming of laughter:love::)
     
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    Humour is certainly subjective... Isn't this the same person who made an actual physical calender counting down the days until TSW5. I know what one I find more funny for different reasons!
     
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    Lamp sim world had me in TEARS
     
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  8. Myron

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    I couldn't help it
     
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    Sorry Myron (not sorry), there's funny, there's not funny, and then there's this

    Mocking people's accents or pronunciation is neither big nor clever and you should be ashamed
     
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  10. Spikee1975

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    Oh my. Myron. I'm not sure this is "fair use" of other people's content and could even get you a strike on YT. Your hunt for seeking clicks or attention by all means is not stopping, even though DTG refrained from banning you after using secondary accounts and the leaks. I'm not sure DTG will like what you've done (again). And I find it disrespectful to mock the people on whose forums you are a member. You're only testing DTG's sense of humour here.

    Can't you just make something on your own eventually? You announced sound enhancements and other "ultimate" EPs. Why not invest a little time in really being creative... I guess yeah, you just can't help it. bruh.
     
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  11. SierraOscar95

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    Myron the attention seeker who leaked content for nothing more then an ego boost and to sound like they were 'in the know', says alot about their personality when they constantly disrespect the staff at DT and are constantly chasing clout and reactions...
     
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    Just downloaded the thing, before the inevitable copyright strike comes. :D
     
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    oh boy he pissed off the Dovetail police.
     
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    I feel like Iā€™m watching one of those trolling videos that teenagers make. Iā€™m way too old and mature to find this kind of content enjoyable.
    As many other users stated, youā€™ll most likely receive a copyright strike on your video and Dovetail will not appreciate you mocking them either.
     
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  15. Jamy

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    Just goes to show you can't please all of the people all of the time. I thought it was hilarious, but then again i'm from up north and my skins a bit thicker and I'm no "bleedin" liberal
     
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    You're all aware of the point of a YTP, right?
     
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    Oh, this thread is gonna go well.
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  18. Well, I couldnt find anything in this that applies...
    Dovetail Games - Updated Code Of Conduct | Dovetail Games Forums

    Youtube on the other hand..

    YouTube copyright and fair use policies - How YouTube Works

    "The first rule of copyright
    Creators should only upload videos that they have made or that they're authorised to use. That means that they should not upload videos that they didn't make, or use content in their videos that someone else owns the copyright to, such as music tracks, snippets of copyrighted programmes or videos made by other users, without necessary authorisations."

    It was funny, but the humour isnt a barometer of its legitimacy. Im sure if DTG are so minded, they can report it and submit a copyright infringement removal request.
     
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    Something violating the YouTube TOS isn't a barometer of its illegitimacy either, they're notoriously inconsistent with how it's enforced even when things do violate it. Debatably the entire gaming sector of YouTube technically shouldn't exist, the earliest Let's Players ran on their own and didn't exactly license the games. A lot of music on YouTube also was unofficial uploaded back in the day, and the reason so much music exists officially now was partially to combat said uploads. Even beyond YouTube the use of samples by artists like J-Dilla is also debatable legally, but it's common practice amongst a lot of music artists regardless.

    Besides, a lot of enforcement dependents on the actual rights holders willingness to do so, if DTG don't have anything it honestly you should be relying more on them than YouTube.
     
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    To the people throthing over a funny version of a video.

    yall must be awfully fun at partiesā€¦
     
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    I think some people here need to cheer up a bit in life, clearly it was intended to be a bit of fun but so many people here don't have even the slightest clue of what that is, being miserable and negative like always on these forums. I mean come on even the ViewApp channel commented on the video being able to see the funny side of it, yet here people are talking about copyright strikes ?? Calm down its not that serious...
     
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  22. derek#2931

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    Couldnā€™t of said it better
     
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  23. In my company people have been suspended for just being part of a whatsapp group that had messages on it throwing the company into disrepute. You may argue about the 'rightness' of that, but it happens. It may not be serious if you don't operate in a serious environment, but to DTG and its employees it may well be, as its all about the Brand to a lot of companies out there, regardless of the media platform. Thats not up to me, or you to determine. It was funny sure, but others may take a dimmer view. Just making the point..
     
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  24. Mich

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    There's very different standards between company workers and regular members of the public though. A company might act against someone talking badly about the company working for them, but they can't do jack about who doesn't doing the same thing. And Myron's very much the latter, not the former.
     
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    "Parody"
    noun
    1. an imitation of the style of a particular writer, artist, or genre with deliberate exaggeration for comic effect:
    2. verb
      1. produce a humorously exaggerated imitation of (a writer, artist, or genre):
     
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  26. Indeed, however mine was more of a general point about how the freedom to post on social media is no guarantee of one's continued freedom to post on the respective medium. In the case of copyright infringement, he may find they have a point, should they decide to pursue it. As Ive also stated, thats not up to either of our respective positions to decide. I was simply providing an alternative point of view. I agree it was funny, and it did make me chuckle, however there is an alternative view which in the interests of fairness, should also be considered. It could get one into trouble, and that was simply the point I was conveying. I have no skin in this teacup drizzle so Im happy Ive said all I need to on this, but Im happy to expand if required.
     
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    Remind me that the forums are a joyless hellscape where complaints are inevitable.
     
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  28. Indeed, but also why we need rules. I could derive joy from stoving in my enemies faces with a cast iron saucepan, but those pesky authorities have determined in their wisdom that we should live in a society where such activities are frowned upon. Forums need rules too otherwise they become places of toxicity and discontent, often under the guise of 'banter' or 'harmless fun'. I dont think anyone is seriously complaining about the video from a sense of deep and outraged offence.. however if rules are broken, one cannot complain if one is sanctioned, regardless of the moral correctness. If he wants to put more up, thats up to him. If you think his content is that good that its worth defending, then do so. Youll have my full support in that too, because Im an advocate of freedom of expression, but starting from an appreciation that not everyone thinks the same way is helpful.
     
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  29. Perhaps their humour tends to be a little more sophisticated, likewise their parties..

    Im joking of course. Please dont take offence :)
     
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  30. FredElliott

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    Myron made the video, FYI
     
  31. Thanks, but its really not up to me to do anything about it either way. I simply found this an interesting discussion on a slow news Sunday. Appreciate it though.*thumbs up*
     
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    Indeed, t'was off the back of your comment "if you want to support his videos" paraphrased; one would always support one's own videos I'd expect
     
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    Maybe you have to look in the mirror and ask your self whats going on here.... Its not the first time you have try to make "fun" and ive seen the video but its so immature.... Better you think before you post such things. Besides its stolen or illegal copy paste and modified with the intention to get reactions.... Now you get reactions and than complaining about the forums..... Whats wrong here....
     
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    Would love to know the age groups of people in this community. It would explain a few things.
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    People seem to think this is a one off event people are picking on Myron for, possibly without knowing the context... This is not the case. This is because this member of the forum is constantly engaging in attention seeking behaviour just for likes and reactions regardless if the reaction is good or bad.
     
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    *yawn*
     
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    is that not how any YTP works out there?
     
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    So you make a claim there that everything on YT is stolen?! Interesting... This is showing how you think about internet in general and why you have made the choice to leak the TSW5 stuff.... Maybe you have to learn a lesson about respect and copyright i think.
     
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    I must admit, I think I preferred the roadmap versions of these, but not bad I suppose and I did have a couple of chuckles throughout. The thing is the video had one major highlight, and it it were not funny at all, but something I would love to see more of. So Myron I think we need an extended section of 'Just Can't Get Enough' over the trailer.
     
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    if you say so?
     
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    Wouldn't that be... copyright infringment by stealing video content and illegally editing it with another stolen material, this time being a song, and then uploading stolen content onto YouTube?? :D
     
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    No idea mate, I know nothing about the topic, but you seemed happy enough to put it in this video.
     
  43. But yet you felt the need to let us know :)
     
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    All feedback is good. :)
     
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    I never thought I'd see people get this triggered over a meme video (videos of which genre have been uploaded to youtube since it began). If we're adding copyrighted music for the hell of it, given what people like to think of TSW sequels, perhaps 'Feel the Same' by the Battle Tapes would have been a more fitting choice.
     
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  46. I dont think anyone is triggered, just bored perhaps. Me personally, Im trying to decide what to have for lunch.. theres a part of me trying to get this thread locked but to do it subtly too. Now Ive had to spell that out, its not going to be quite so subtle..
     
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    There's certainly a few more barbs than I was expecting. And all cos the forum member has previous (they'd have probably made the video regardless of prior, notable events).
     
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  48. Ahh yeah, its always the choice. A bludgeon or a fine needle.. I can never decide what to use there either..
    Right, enough. Im degenerating rapidly. Peace all.
     
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    Looks like someone doesn't know how to take a joke....

    Some people are too sensitive these days
     
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    Sensitivity? Right...

    Because calling out and challenging a attention seeker who is constantly fishing for likes on this forum, by going out of their way to attention seek is sensitive? I think you'll find it is a case of being irritated by their cringey behaviour. If you want to validate their behaviour that is upto you.

    It'd be fine if it was a one off event, but Myron continues to attention seek and doesn't care if it's a good or bad reaction.

    It's like being in a class room and having sheepish people follow the naughty kid because he makes a poor joke... Humour is a subjective matter, but being an attention seeking idiot is pretty distinctive.
     
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