Dovetail Games Wcml & Pendolino Preview - Q&a Thread

Does the Pendolino use genuine sounds or have they been synthesised from existing stock audio?

Can we have a clear demonstration in the preview of the sounds through various stages without extraneous chatter, similar to how AP show off their sound packs.

Why was the decision taken to sell the Pendolino separately rather than include with the WCML South by default.

How are overnight trains represented on the route?

Why stop at MKC and not carry on to Rugby which would give a decent length run for the Pendolino?

How are trains that only call at Watford Junction or fast through the whole section represented?

 

Does the timetable represent and recreate the real working timetable on the WCML?
What will be done about the limited number of 350/1s? Will fake numbers be used for extras?

Has the included 377/2 and/or 1972 stock been upgraded to have suspension physics?
Furthermore on the 377/2, has the interior been modified to reflect the differences in the real /2 interior?

 

Has the Queens Park to Harrow & W'stone section been reused from Bakerloo or rebuilt from scratch?
Does third rail mode work on the class 350?

 

What was the process of building this route like and what were the challenges especially with route hopping abilities now?

 

Can the class 350 couple to the ROG class 37?

How hard would it be to turn a class 47 into a class 57?

Can the front door of the 1972 stock be opened?

 

• Is Wembley Intercity Depot accessible and are Pendolino ECS moved to and from the depot included?
• Are both 4 and 8 car services available for the 350?
• For the Pendolino services, are they fixed to a certain length? Will 9 coach services always be 9 coaches, or will they be different each time you spawn in game?

 

I'll ask my question from last time that I didn't hear on the stream:

 

Have neutral sections been simulated properly?

Have any upgrades been made to the section between Queen’s Park and Harrow or is it just a port from Bakerloo?

Does the ROG 37 & other diesels make an appearance? Even as static AI?

Have Overground services at Willesden Junction high level been represented?

Are services to St Albans Abby represented?

 

The 72TS, 66 and 377 with WCMLS



Do they?

 

Does the class 377/2 and 72 stock have suspension?

and when will the class 710 get suspension? it layers into this route and will be the only outlier when it comes to suspension that it doesn't make sense to ignore it when it makes up majority of the playable timetable services.

 

Are all the locos included with the route dlcs being updated with Suspension as promised?
It was said all TSW5 routes and ones going forward would have suspension. If they are part of the Route DLC, they should have it by this definition surely?

 

Absolutely this. Please just release a few minutes of gameplay to YouTube so I don't have to comb through the stream footage hoping to hear the unit when they're NOT talking over it.

Money. It's a no brainer from a business point of view.

This was partially answered in the latest article, the fast trains are included as AI. I'm also fairly confident that all 390s that stop at Watford also stop at Milton Keynes.

 

To repeat my question from the Roadmap Q&A: Is TASS implemented on the 390? (I'm guessing "yes", since there is a scenario where we have to driver without it, but some more details would be nice).

Also, how busy is the 350 timetable, or rather how close to reality is it?

 

While not specifically about WCML, I have two [EDIT: one] questions that probably involve it:

1. I've noticed an issue in early streams where trains don't appear for several seconds after a map loads. Has this been resolved for the release builds?
2. The TSW5 listing on Steam states that an AI company was used for some voice-over production. Can DTG clarify the extent of use, as well as the reasoning behind this? - Answered: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/tsw5-the-honest-feedback.83048/page-6#post-878597

Thanks.

 

Was the class 380/350 made alongside one another? Being 2 very similar units, they could use a lot of similar things such as sounds/physics and screens
Is the shop in the 390 fully modelled? And can you access the inside?
Is there gaps in the timetable for potential future editions? Whether that's a voyager, 805, or 319/730
Why did you decide on WCML south over another section? Such as Carlisle to Glasgow or Crewe to Preston

 

See here: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/tsw5-the-honest-feedback.83048/page-6#post-878597

 

Just want to emphasise the importance of the timetable question, as to whether it is a full, accurate timetable, without AI timings, etc and if yes, which timetable has been used?

 

• Will the conductor mode have checks related to peak & off peak?
• Some of demos with other streamers indicate that by route hopping you could possibly jump directly into another service. What's the condition of this?

 

The streaming of this new route, is tomorrow, - 29th of August -, not today. Isn't it?
According what was showed on TSW5 one.

 

Why on one of the livestreams did it say there were 3-4 stops for the 390 on some services even though the only intermediate station there is Watford junction

 

Are the Pride and Green liveries included for the 390?

 

Yes.

 

This would be cool. Never understood why they did it on SEHS but not ECML.

 

Im guessing they included Euston, Watford Junction & MKC, which is a little misleading. I too would like some clarification on this, though guessing it was a mistake.

 

Thanks.

As the way Alex said at the top, just mentioning "it is almost time", and showing the streaming hours, it seems like it was today...

 

Is the 710 going to be the 5 car /3 version, as used on the line in real life.
Assume any NLL services seen as AI at Willesden will be using the 710 as per GOBLIN line.
On both DLCs are they set up so as to be easily replaceable by 378s (if they eventually come to the game)

 

I didn't think the 710 were included, just layered on from Goblin.

That leads me to ask why this is the case, when the German route includes stock that is already in game with it, but I have to buy Goblin just for these AI layers.

 

One more from me:

• For trains that go to MKC and beyond, will they be marked ‘LNWR Only’ or ‘Avanti’ only as per real life on conductor mode?

 

DTG Alex

can I double check this is tonight. Thought it was for the 29th?

 

It is definitely tomorrow, if you click on the stream it says 7pm 29th august and that it goes live in 25 hours.

 

Thanks matt. Alex’s post left it open to interpretation.

 

1. Is there a complete timetable for the 350, 390, 377, and 710 that represents all the services in real life?

2. Is there any plans to add the suspension update to the 710? (not specifically a WCML question but since its in the route...)

3. Have the stations being brought over from the existing Bakerloo line getting any updates/visual improvements?

4. What if any updates have the other reused parts of the route gotten? (Queens Park to H&W).

 

No sweat. Yes it is, must admit I only realised this as I had clicked on the link in his post by accident.

 

Have you made any lineside railfanning spots accessible?

 

1.what year is the route
2.is tass fuctional on the class 390
3.does the train mangement system work on the 390
4. any railtours
5.different in timetables for gen8 ps4 for example

 

Thanks for the link. I'd assumed/hoped that it would be restricted to the new tutorials, so I'm glad to see that confirmed.

 

And one more from me, which is still related to the route given the desire to keep running by returning to the cab and taking over another train in the busy service...

Why are you stonewalling the questions I have been asking in regard to the save game - specifically are we getting more than one slot and have you fixed the issue of objective data not returning on loading into a subsequent run?

 

Just another upvote for the mention of as accurate as possible timetables, please.

What were the reasons behind only having the 377 running to Watford over MKC? If era bending is possible on the GWE Remaster...

 

1. Will there be any additional services? Such as railtours, additional freight (non-intermodal) utilising other DLCs such as Skyhook games’ Cargo lines? Ect.

2. will other varietients of the pendolino livery’s be available such as the pride one or the eco one?

3. This one isn’t WCML on tsw specific and more Avanti but do the pendolino have buffets on their trains?

4. will there be IRL things such as the Pringle vending machines like on ECML and SEHS?

 

Are we getting any more container brands? Having the Tesco train would be cool

 

Yes they do.

 

Really looking forward to this route. I’ve preordered the Deluxe Version of TSW 5 so I get the Pendolino too.

 

When you close the doors when driving, will the guards buzzer sound twice?

 

Does route hopping work with the 377 between Wembley and Clapham

 

Is approach control signalling implemented where appropriate?

 

Has the Bakerloo section of the Watford DC line been updated (eg. with 710 stop signs)?

To what degree were Rivet involved with helping to create the route and gameplay?

 

Will WCML have the fast moving external camera for consoles? We lost that feature with the release of TSW4. Even TSW and TSW 2020 had it.

 

Will the 66 have advanced safety systems?

 

Will we get a tutorial for the WCML safety systems? Especially for the Pendolino?