Petition: Dtg To Commission Brandon (aka Cactusjuice) To Fix The Signalling On New York Trenton.

I know I'm a cynical person but I do feel that the OP is trying just a little too hard for this poll to succeed on it's mission, purely because it's what they want personally and not for the good of the TSW community as a whole......

 

And that's the point 18 people didn't get.

Of course what the OP wants is good for everybody, no only the community but Brandon himself, a passionate developer that would get a few more bucks.
And there is nothing to loose here for anybody, it's not like he wouldn't do the signalling in new Boston route (waiting for this) because of this or will stop him from doing German/UK routes that he doesn't do anyway.

The poll is clearly not a poll but tongue in cheek (in fact is a petition), the only valid answer is "Yes" and if you doesn't get it take a look at yourself

 

You know, you see the comments complaining about the poll & think just ignore it, why waste your energy.

But then you see comments like these & start to see the point people have about polls like this.

 

To be fair, I saw this as more of a petition and not a poll, as the OP alluded to. However, I might also add that it is not like this is a new issue; the only difference is the recent revelation that a fix might be available. My personal position is that a poll or petition puts more pressure on the relevant parties that is really necessary, but that's just me.

One point I would address is whether a fix would be a negative or positive for the community at large. In other threads I have gone into greater detail, but basically I support the fix because this route is a likely starting point for new players plus it is included in the TSW5 pack. I don't see how directing new players to something that doesn't work correctly benefits anyone.

 

This route should actually not have been released in its original state , with so many flaws . I think signalling is something they should get right from the start. If that’s not working properly , they shouldn’t release it .

 

Yes, I want this personally, but also for everyone else who paid hard earned money for a flawed route. A route someone is ready and able to fix.

 

There was never any for everyone else about this at all, this is simply what you want, that's why your messages are starting to sound almost desperate pleading for it to happen, and give it couple of months and nothing happens you will follow every other soul I've seen try for the same type of thing, you will become resentful and probably borderline obsessive about how Dovetail are the antichrist because they never paid for the signaling to be sorted......

 

That's how it went with LIRR for the OP. Back then I was sympathetic to his pleas but they turned into what you are describing so not falling for this again. That's why I voted NO.

A lot of routes still need fixes, not just this one.

 

OK I'll play along and pretend you really are a new user since august 2024. Your secret is safe with me

 

https://forums.dovetailgames.com/members/memc83.43707/

 

Was just bored (and thought I knew that image). Why did you "borrow" that user's unique hand drawn avatar then?

 

I mean, there's no harm in er, repurposing...things...right Spikee?

Yes I'm using that winking gif again

 

Okay. You got me.

 

As with all things, it becomes a question of priorities, Brandon can't fix the signalling unless Joe also works on the timetable, and while I wish Joe could be subjected to a Star Trek transporter accident and duplicated, that's about as likely as there not being a TSW6 this time next year.

If money is going to be spent improving older North American routes then I would prioritise Clinchfield and Oakville.

 

I'm not sure that the timetable would need any special attention in this case. Although the cab signals are broken, the wayside signals themselves seem to be accurate enough. This is not the same situation as BPE, where Brandon fixed the signals but the timetable was still based on the old, incorrect signals.

For instance, when I am driving a northbound service that switches from track 1 to 3 to make a stop at Metropark, the cab signals slow you down just after New Brunswick, while the wayside signals are still clear. While I am on this slow roll, usually one or two trains that are supposed to be behind me will get ahead (thereby making my train even later). However, if I attempt the same run without cab signals but still obeying the wayside signals, I am able to stay on time. In fact I would say the route works rather well, if you don't use safety systems.

 

The problem is more how the trains read the signals.

 

I guess my point is that the AI trains seem to not be using the cab signals, which makes sense because I don't think AI trains use safety systems. But, to be honest, I haven't played enough services within the same session to see if the trains eventually grind to a halt, which would be indicative of a deeper timetable problem. All I can really say is that when I try to follow the cab signals, all the other trains seem to be running just fine

 

Actually I read somewhere that the speed drop after New Brunswick was a real thing as a result of the Frankfort junction derailment for trains west of Lincoln interlocking because of the curves,they only recently removed the 45 limit and placed a cab speed 80

 

So let me get this straight because the way the OP made this thread seems to me like we are getting into office politics on who can make the better timetable.

Sounds like Brandon already told DTG what his price would be and they turned him down.

But I know from experience that briniging office drama out to the public is not a good thing and could end up hurting Brandon in the end. People don't like their dirty laundry in public.

So I would tread lightly on this topic.

 

Nothing monetary has been discussed between DTG and I. I've only made it clear that I am open to fixing the signals if DTG wants to explore it.

 

As long as the signal fixes don't make something that would normally display Stop instead display something permissive like Restricting (or vice-versa), then the timetable likely wouldn't need much work aside from a basic resimulation.

 

I think the OP should have set it up as a poll on who wants improvements to the NYT signalling and timetable by someone familiar with them.

Instead of attaching your name to it and explained clearer on what they want. Otherwise it looks lime office politics.

I'm all for you taking a go at it but at the same time the way its worded I'd be a little afraid to get somone in trouble.

 

I understand your caution and hesitation. It was discussed in other threads over the course of several months (and on the Train Sim Community discord) that I am willing to fix the signals if the price is right. That's how my name got attached to it.

I'm probably the only one right now that has both an intimate understanding of the signal system and access to the internal toolset, so there really isn't another name to attach to it anyway.

In any case, I'm pretty much finished with the Boston to Worcester stuff and then I intend to take a bit of a break until whatever other contract comes my way.

 

Enjoy your break Brandon. Your work is very appreciated!

 

Enjoy your break, hopefully they will get you at some point to go back and fix it.

I know the OP meant well and I do agree with him. Even though he has reported me to DTG.

Apparently I

 

...Banned mid-typing the post, what a way to go

RIP JacketPotatoJim

 

That spud was a true legend, I truly hope he gets the filling only a true jacket potato dreams of, the mighty baked bean........

 

That’s crazy. Could’ve sworn he was the one who originally did it.

 

Nah someone from DTG did. I was only around as a consultant for NYT.

 

Ohhhhhhhhhh! No wonder things are how they are (in route). Knew this couldn’t be Mr. B quality of work. Looking forward to MBTA.

 

Yeah you can always check my signature to see what stuff I've created myself