Train Sim World 3 The Borders Railway: Edinburgh-tweedbank

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  1. TrainGeek08

    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    Drive through the scenic countryside known as the Scottish Borders utilizing fast, modern traction in Train Sim World 3: The Borders Railway: Edinburgh-Tweedbank

    Hello, I would like to suggest the Borders Railway for TSW3 as it is very scenic and features Scotland's capital, Edinburgh

    Stock included with base route:
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    The British Rail Class 158 'Express Sprinter'

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    And the British Rail Class 170 'Turbostar'

    Training (In Training Center):
    Class 158 Introduction
    Class 170 Introduction

    Scenarios:
    Cloudy Borders: (Difficulty - 1)
    Drive a 170 from Tweedbank to Edinburgh on a cloudy day but no rain is expected...

    Broken Turbo: (Difficulty - 3)
    A 170 has broken down at Shawfair so you are going to rescue it, drive a 158 empty from Edinburgh to Shawfair, couple up to the failed train, then take it back up to Edinburgh before the AI takes over to bring the train to Haymarket Depot

    Stormy Stow: (Difficulty - 3)
    Drive a 170 in stormy weather from Edinburgh to Stow as a tree has come down between Stow and Galashiels so replacement buses are running between Stow and Tweedbank

    Double Sprinting: (Difficulty - 2)
    The Borders Railway is shut between Newcraighall and Shawfair, drive a 158 from Edinburgh to Newcraighall and back like how services used to operate prior to the Tweedbank extension opening in 2015

    Borders Combo: (Difficulty - 1)
    Drive a 158/170 combo from Tweedbank to Edinburgh on a clear day, no delays are expected on the line today

    Timetable:
    2018-2019 Working Timetable

    Stations on Page 2... (there isn't any Potential DLC because there isn't anything that would be and no Layers because I can't think of any layers other than a railtour layer with the 47 + Mk2 stock from NTP)
     
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  2. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    Sound like a great route already. Can't wait to see the rest of the suggestion! :D
     
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  3. olly.smail

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    this really would be a fun route to drive, great suggestion
     
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  4. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    Love a Class 158 and Class 170! :love:
     
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    Page 2:

    Stations:
    Edinburgh Waverley:
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    Edinburgh Waverley railway station (also known simply as Waverley; Scots Gaelic: Waverley Dhùn Èideann) is the principal railway station serving Edinburgh, Scotland. It is the second busiest station in Scotland, after Glasgow Central. It is the northern terminus of the ECML, 393 miles 13 chains (393.16 miles; 632.7 kilometres) from London King's Cross, although some trains operated by LNER continue to other Scottish destinations beyond Edinburgh.

    Brunstane:
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    Brunstane is a railway station on the Borders Railway, which runs between Edinburgh Waverley and Tweedbank. The station, situated 3 miles 72 chains (6 km) south-east of Edinburgh Waverley, serves the suburbs of Brunstane and Portobello in the City of Edinburgh, Scotland. It is owned by Network Rail and managed by ScotRail.

    Newcraighall:
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    Newcraighall is a railway station on the Borders Railway, which runs between Edinburgh Waverley and Tweedbank. The station, situated 4 miles 54 chains (8 km) south-east of Edinburgh Waverley, serves the suburbs of Craigmillar and Newcraighall in the City of Edinburgh, Scotland. It is owned by Network Rail and managed by ScotRail.

    Shawfair:
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    Shawfair is a railway station on the Borders Railway, which runs between Edinburgh Waverley and Tweedbank. The station, situated 5 miles 64 chains (9 km) south-east of Edinburgh Waverley, serves the villages of Danderhall and Shawfair in Midlothian, Scotland. It is owned by Network Rail and managed by ScotRail.

    Eskbank:
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    Eskbank is a railway station on the Borders Railway, which runs between Edinburgh Waverley and Tweedbank. The station, situated 8 miles 25 chains (13 km) south-east of Edinburgh Waverley, serves the towns of Bonnyrigg and Dalkeith in Midlothian, Scotland. It is owned by Network Rail and managed by ScotRail.

    Newtongrange:
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    Newtongrange is a railway station on the Borders Railway, which runs between Edinburgh Waverley and Tweedbank. The station, situated 9 miles 58 chains (15.6 km) south-east of Edinburgh Waverley, serves the town of Newtongrange in Midlothian, Scotland. It is owned by Network Rail and managed by ScotRail.

    Gorebridge:
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    Gorebridge is a railway station on the Borders Railway, which runs between Edinburgh Waverley and Tweedbank. The station, situated 11 miles 77 chains (19 km) south-east of Edinburgh Waverley, serves the town of Gorebridge in Midlothian, Scotland. It is owned by Network Rail and managed by ScotRail.

    Stow:
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    Stow is a railway station on the Borders Railway, which runs between Edinburgh Waverley and Tweedbank. The station, situated 26 miles 45 chains (43 km) south-east of Edinburgh Waverley, serves the town of Lauder and village of Stow of Wedale in Scottish Borders, Scotland. It is owned by Network Rail and managed by ScotRail.

    Galashiels:
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    Galashiels is a railway station on the Borders Railway, which runs between Edinburgh Waverley and Tweedbank. The station, situated 33 miles 22 chains (54 km) south-east of Edinburgh Waverley, serves the town of Galashiels in Scottish Borders, Scotland. It is owned by Network Rail and managed by ScotRail.

    Tweedbank:
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    Tweedbank is a railway station on the Borders Railway, which runs between Edinburgh Waverley and Tweedbank. The station, situated 35 miles 34 chains (57 km) south-east of Edinburgh Waverley, serves the village of Tweedbank in Scottish Borders, Scotland. It is owned by Network Rail and managed by ScotRail.


    I hope you enjoyed reading this suggestion, put your thoughts on this route below, I'll see you next time for my first international suggestion, hope to see you in the comments there too, see you all below!!!
     
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    Thanks, would love this route to come to TSW at some point ;)
     
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    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    Yep, me too :love:
     
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    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    Only 35 miles? Maybe it could have a branch line? Any ideas?
     
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    That seems to be the preferred length for DLC, going into 2023... ;)

    Then there is always the possibility of setting it pre original closure as a through route between Carlisle and Edinburgh, but more chance of seeing Santa on his sleigh at Christmas on that hope...!
     
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    Don’t think there is anything directly off this line, but could twin it up with Edinburgh to North Berwick, which is under 30 miles.

    Call it Edinburgh to Coast & Country (trademarked )
     
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    Not a bad idea actually, Edinburgh-Tweedbank/North Berwick would probably hit with Scottish TSW players more than Cathcart did :love:
     
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    Sadly so... :(
     
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    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    The Waverley Route would be the steam era alternative :)
     
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    Sound Great! :)
    Class 380, Class 158 and Class 170
     
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    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    Definitely! :love::D
     
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    Yep, three of the top five best in the ScotRail fleet in one route, hell yeah :)
     
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    Yea! Perfect Combo! If they make this I hope the get the sounds right for all the trains. Especially the Class 380
     
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    Excellent idea but if you set the route during the steam era waverly route WCML Liverpool Crewe can give 8F and LMS Jubilee to the route.
     
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    The 158 and 170 have AP sounds, the 380 on the other hand doesn't sadly :(
     
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    They can indeed :love:
     
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    Just means they'd have to go out and record it. Look out for Dovetail games at Edinburgh Waverly, lol! :)
     
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    That's if they make it of course ;)
     
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    As scenic as the route is, the modern version of the route is essentially a long branch line with A to B services all the time. I would much rather get something with a bit more going on such as Edinburgh to Dundee or Edinburgh to Glasgow QS. :)
     
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    That's understandable, you don't have anything interesting other than Edinburgh-Tweedbank services all day ;)
     
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    True! I'd love to see both those routes! :):love:
     
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    Any route out of Edinburgh would be great :love:
     
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    Wow I would love to play this and get lost in Waverly again
     
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    :D:D:D, how hard is it to navigate Waverley with all the signs telling you the direction of the platforms ;)
     
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    It's so busy as well! And very very big!
     
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    Yeah, it takes half an hour to figure out which platform is yours
     
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    It is, 20 platforms... well actually 17 if you look at it as 1 is joined with 20, 2 is joined with 19 and 7 is joined with 11 all with diamond crossovers splitting them up on all three instances :)
     
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    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    We got a nice view of the xc trains walking over the platforms towards the exit though
     
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    You know there are things called Departure Boards at Waverley, and after that, the signs will help you to your platform ;)
     
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    Voyagers I presume ;)

    XC give Edinburgh 1 HST diagram south in the morning to Plymouth and 1 HST diagram north from Plymouth which arrives in the evening :)
     
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    Services to Tweedbank often depart from Platforms 20/1, 19/2, 7/11, 3, 4, 8, 9 and 10 for extra information :)
     
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    Cool! Yea, I believe they were class 220's! :)
     
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    Yea, we got there in the end! :)
     
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    They would be, either them or 221s, 220s are 4 coaches and 221s are 5 coaches ;)
     
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    Joing the party late, but I agree this would be an excellent choice of route for TSW 3 a lot of scenery until Gorebridge but afterwards it should be an easy route to model all the way to Tweedbank. Along with passing loops this won't have the feel of a BCC as your only in Edinburgh for less than 15mins. I live next to the line in Galashiels and although it's a half hourly service the trains are commonly a six consist with the 158 being doubled up with a 170. It's a long shot but we haven't had a diesel route in a while and everyone who plays TSW will know it's missing two iconic trains. Watch this space... I hope!
     
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    No problem, the Borders Railway would be a great choice of route, it's more Rivet's calibre judging that performance we just saw, do more Scottish routes Rivet :love:
     
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    A potential DLC could be 60009 "Union of South Africa" as she did pull the opening train for the Borders Railway.
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    Good shout actually, forgot about Union of South Africa, you'd need a 67 as well for TnT runs with 60009 ;)
     
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    The Waverley Route was LNER - so you would need A3, B1, K3 and J39. There was no heavy industry on the line, but lots of farms, so there would be no need for large freight locos. There do not seem to have been any A4s or V2s allocated to Carlisle Canal, but there were some based in Edinburgh Haymarket, so would not be out of place on a steam era Waverly Route route.
     
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    Thanks for that information, even if it was intended for driverwoods#1787 ;)
     
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    Reopening the lid on this one... So in the recent roadmap it looks like Rivet will be making another UK route releasing in the next 3-6 months. Any chance of the borders line... fingers crossed
     
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    There's always potential but concidering dtg have said they won't be releasing route codes for the roadmap anymore there is no way to tell.
     
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    I'm back...we have a 158/170/380 in the game now plus a fully modelled Edinburgh Waverley. This route is only an hour long, a good length for TSW routes, it ticks a lot of boxes will DTG provide?? Would love to see it...
     
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    Would be a great route now as DTG can recycle all of the above so no need to make any new rolling stock for this line :).
     
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