Creation Sharing Bremen - Oldenburg New Timetable (2024) (released)

Hi again,
Sorry for the late reply. I tried it this way and everything worked, thank you very much!

 

Future update

Hey guys, after now 2 weeks I want to give you a little update on the post release work of the timetable and a little update on my future route project. But first of all thank you very much for all the feedback you gave me whilst it was in development and especially now after the release!

Timetable update:
After looking at your feedback you gave via several places, I am now working on an update on the timetable. I don't know if it will be something like a V1.1 or even V2, which in the end depends on all the improvements I will make. Here is a list of all the already made or planned improvements:
- (done) layers work properly now (no need of all the DLC's)
- (planned) adding some variants in services (for example: driving on the left track, because of a broken train)
- (planned) adding broken trains, which you need to rescue
- (planned) update service or add new ones with new Loco DLC's (BR218 & Expert 101)
- (planned) adding more shunting missions/ services in Bremen with the 363 and Dostos

Future route:
Now we get to my by far the biggest project I have currently planned. Some of you may know about my first project, I talked about in the forum https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/kleinbahn-wächtersbach-bad-orb-route.75832/ Sometimes I still work on the route, but it is now more like a route to test new stuff and nothing I want to finish in the near future.
So after completing my timetable, I searched for a new challenge and got to the idea of building a route(or more) I personally drive on myself in real life.
I'm currently finishing the .kml data for that and do basic folder structure. Next up will be implementing Lidar data once it gets free (hopefully 9th of June). When this is done I'll start laying tracks and so on. But I'm not that good at modeling, so if there is anyone who wants to help, I would be very happy hearing from you.

After all of that, many of you may want to know about which route(or routes) I'm talking about. I won't tell you just yet, but I will tell you that it will be in Lower Saxony (Germany), mostly DMU, and served by DB Regio.

That's it for today! I hope that many of you are looking forward to the improved timetable and of course for the route project. And as already mentioned many times please contact me if you are willing to support in modeling or route building for the route, otherwise I don't know if I can finish it in a realistic looking way.

Stay tuned

 

Timetable Update

A new and updated version of my Bremen - Oldenburg timetable is now available on TSC.
After a little bit of fixing the new version, it is now called V1.51. So, what is new in this update?

Here is an overview of all the changes made:

• Fixed layer system to don't require all used DLC's
  • exception: still required are BRO, SRM & DRA, for the broken Train services are also needed: BR 218, Maintalbahn & Hannah's BR 642 Repaint Pack
• Fixed reverse driving RS3 service coming from Oldenburg
• added static and service use of the BR 218
• added a 'broken' freight train which needs to be rescued by two BR 218
• added 3 new shunting services using the BR 363

With all of that, there are now in total 1.313 services, of which 409 are playable.
I really hope you all will have much fun with the new additions!



What's next?
The next update for the timetable will be the addition of the new Expert BR 101 and maybe some minor changes. If there is anything else you want to see, feel free to let me know.
In addition to that, I'm now working on my route project, although progress is going very slow due to some problems with LIDAR. But I hope that I can fix that soon to finally show you some pictures and to let you know about which route I'm talking about.

As always, stay tuned

The next time you will hear from me is probably in August, because of summer holidays and a planned trip to the US from mid-July to the 1st of August

 

The 218 rescue mission is all messed up when you're not on time. First it will hold you at Delmenhorst siding if you're late and if you cross that then you'll be held at bremen and that's the actual mess when the 363 will leave 218 and 111 in the path where you need to go and it's dead end of that mission.

 

An idea could be to add points and the chances of getting the medals

 

This is planned for V2. As well as the new IC Cab Car and some adjustments for already existing formations.

 

Would it be possible to have some flexibility on the loco used for RE/RB services?
I´d like to take the BR111 around more, but I can only "choose" it while using the 766s

 

Thats also something I'll take a look at. It was already originally planned, but due to some issues about selecting, I put that on hold.
But maybe it will be part of V2

 

Timetable Update

New version V1.52 now up on TSC

Changes:
- added scoring system for all services
- reworked the other trains passing by the rescue mission (rescue service should now work properly)
- added some variety in the path of trains leaving Oldenburg to Bremen

 

I tried the timetable and it seems it is kind of broken for me. I dont have any cargo services on the route and no playable Dosto IC services too. (all extra liverys installed.)
If you look at the required payware i have everything except the Semmering, the RSN 363 and the RSN 155.

I redownloaded it 2 times so this isnt the cause of the problem i think.
Do you know what the reason could be?

 

It works fine for me

 

Ok and? Why do you tell me that?

 

This might be because of the missing Semmeringbahn. Because the IC and NJ services are one layer and the NJ needs Semmeringbahn.

That might be because of the missing 155 Loco DLC, because all freight is one layer

 

Alright, thanks for the explaination!

 

Unfortunately the rescue mission is still off to a bad start:

These are the locos in front of you when you start. The 218 remains on the track and does not move after the 363 has left (and pulled out of the 218). This was not the case with the V1.51, though...

When trying out the new pathing out of Oldenburg I found the problem that it would let me out on Sh1, however, stopped me at the ASig (dont worry about the IC cab car, was trying something else...) EDIT: this was an RE1 service:


Checking for the routing ahead I noticed that it would actually led me into the opposite track:


Was this done intentionally? As the opposite track is still occupied it obviously leads to a delay from the start.

Thanks for the constant evolving of the timetable Enjoying this timetable, otherwise!

EDIT #2: Tried IC 2433 out of Oldenburg as well. This time I waited until the freight service on the opposite track had passed and moved out of Oldenburg with about 6min delay. I have to admit that I liked this hick-up, nothing against some realistic delay, however, I was a bit disappoimted that the ASig, again, only showed an Sh1 and not a proper aspect. In reallity I would not have been allowed to drive further the the bridge with this aspect. With a written Befehl I may have been allowed to the next main signal, however, it would probably have added another 5min to my delay. If the routing is going into the wrong side track I would have hoped that it was done at least for the signal to show a proper aspect.

By the time I got to Bremen I was down to two minutes delay. All in all I quite enjoyed this run!

 

Future Update:

BRO Timetable:
The BR363 stuck in the BR 218 in front of the rescue service BR218s has been fixed, and the timetable is now once again fully working.
An update for the timetable is planned for august, together with the introduction of the Expert BR 101 + Bpmmbdzf (Cab car) into the timetable and something else new. More on that, down below...

Route Project:
This is suspended until I may give you an update in the future. This is due to some problems I encountered, and I realized, that timetables and scenarios are currently much more the stuff I like to work on.

Next Project:
Although the route project has been suspended, I already started on a new timetable project based in Germany! I won't give you that much information just yet, but it will be also a new modern day timetable set in 2024.

Next Release:
In the past few days, I started very spontaneously to work on a project together with mabitze#8061. This one is a complete overhaul and new creation of my already created Metronom and IC2 dostos. In this new version we will not only update those a little bit, but also will include the new redesigned version of the Metronom dostos.
Below there are some impressions of this new Dosto Pack, which will be only used on Bremen-Oldenburg as of now!


Stay tuned

 

Are there any plans to make the IC services driveable without owning Semmeringbahn?
If that'd be an option, my suggestion would be to swap the ÖBB coaches (If they're the cause) with the IC NJ ones from Hannah

 

I think the better solution would be to split the layers. But introducing the NJ coaches would be good regardless.

 

Timetable Update

The wait is finally over! After almost 2 months, I can now present the newest timetable version to you.
A lot of things have changed and improved and because of that, the new version will be V1.9.
(Why not V2? Well, this will be answered further down below)

So, here is the list of all the changes made in this new version:

• fixed several path issues with services blocking each other when leaving Oldenburg
• adjusted stopping positions for various services
• added the NJ coaches from "Hannah"
• added the SBB coaches from "H enjoyer"
• added the IC variety pack from "H enjoyer"
• added the BR 101 expert + cab car
• added new Dosto and BR 425 repaint pack, made by "Rail Dream Studio" and "Bahnpfuschhochschule" (replaces the previous Metronom and IC Dostos used in the timetable)
• various small improvements
• split the NJ and EC layers to be separated from the IC layer

As you can see, there have been a lot of things implemented, that has been previously asked for.
The biggest change will probably be the new Repaint Pack which is introducing new repaints for the Dostos and also a highly requested Repaint for the BR 425 in a "Regio-S-Bahn Bremen" livery!

What else?

In addition to that comes a new created Repaint Pack for the Dostos and BR 425, all specifically for this timetable mod.
It was created together with "Bahnpfuschhoschschule" and is making the timetable a hole lot more realistic.

What's next?

Timetable version V1.9 and not V2?
This new update is the first of 2 and therefore will be V1.9. The next update will be a little bit smaller and introduces only the BR 411 and Flixtrain. This one then will be the final second version of the timetable and therefore will be V2.

New Timetable mod
Today I will give you some updates on the new timetable project too.
My new timetable mod will be for Schnellfahrstrecke Kassel - Würzburg set in 2024!
This one is progressing very well and almost all the long distance services have been implemented as well as some regional trains.
But more on that one, when I create the new thread for it!

I really hope that all of you will have lots of fun with this new stuff!

The release will be today at 18:00 MESZ on TSC

 

oh wow. and I thought the route couldn't get any better. amazing work. this is a perfect example of how german routes can and should be.

Are there any plans to have the 363 at oldenburg do something? it seems to sit in the yard all day now. looks like irl there should be some shunting there at least.

I can't wait to sink more time into the route. this timetable has made it so much more enjoyable.

 

I don't have Dosto available in my schedule. I deleted all old mods. What am I doing wrong?

 

Wow, what a great update. Thanks for that! Pleasently surprised to see the expert line in there. Wasnt it meantioned somewhere that it cant be used by the editor, currently?!

Two issues for me:
- Also no Dosos visible in the selection menu (but they are in game)
- I am still leaving Oldenburg on the Sh1 departure, which is still not very realistic

EDIT:
- One more thing I found are that the signals in Oldenburg only change once you close the doors. As stated before irl this would mean that you never close the doors
- A suggestion, when starting a service in Bremen, I have 2min set up time, which is fine, however, passanger load time is also 2min, which means I am always minimum as late as it takes me to open the doors from the moment I spawn in. Could this time not be reduced to a minute or so?

 

I got the same. sounds like a slight issue on the mod change from the old to the new DoSto's. I suppose it'll work soon again

 

daanloman#3930 I can look into possible 363 services in Oldenburg. But that won't be before the next update. Maybe together with it.

uvm0902 OpenMinded The Dostos not showing up in the menu, should be fixed with next update of them. This one is already awaiting approval and should be available in the next couple of hours.

As for the Sh1, this is because of the set paths and can't be resolved in every instance.

I will note the suggestion for the doors and timings and will bring it to V2 as well.

 

the 425s are totally messed up

 

I am assuming it’s because you send them over the opposite track on the bridge, right?!

Have you considered using another platform, in this case, which has a path this way? It would be more realistic for them to temporarily leave from another platform, rather than having them depart with a signal you would not encounter in this situation.

 

The 218 service still seems to be broken for me. There is the 363 in front of me, which leaves, however, it leaves the 218 in front of me. So the way is blocked. The signal never turns greeen, even if I delete the 218 in front of me.

 

I already changed some services to take the normal way, but even then the signal sometimes shows Sh1. I'll take a further look into it, for the next update.

Yeah, I just noticed that and assumed that I already fixed this. I'll fix it in the next update.

 

no rush. there's a lot left to enjoy even without them. I was just wondering since it looks like industry there if there was a posibility. but germany and unused sidings is pretty common.

 

One more thing, I just drove RS3 (83351 05:02 ex Oldenburg) and it would not let me into the siding at the other end (Bremen Nebengleis 17). Was sitting for quite some time without anything happening. Deleted the train on this track after that but still no change.

Also, same service, when I arrived in Bremen (a little ahead of time) it would ask me to wait first (until scheduled arrival time) until the order came to open the doors. As I had the doors open already, it would not recognise passengers getting off, I had to close and open the doors again.

Are you interested in issues with the BR425 as well? Its not your mod, hence I am unsure if you want these infos as well...

Really enyojing the timetable The variety is crazy, its really like another game, almost, so many unual trains and colours of trains

 

I'll take a look into the S-Bahn issues and see what I can do.
As for the 425 issues, feel free to let me know, and I pass it on.

I'm very glad that so much of you are enjoying this timetable mod, and I hope that most of you will like the new one for Kassel-Würzburg as well.

 

Thank you for your mod. Just a quick question: if you don't have the BR 101 expert, will it work?

 

Regarding the signal waiting for you to close the doors, I have encountered this on quite a number of services (ie ICE1133 out of Oldenburg, but also at its intermidiate stop at Delmenhorst, or the NWB RB58 82244 out of Bremen). As alluded to in my previous post, in reallity this would mean that you would never leave. The train personel needs the permisssion to move, which is usually given with a green signal. This would be great if it could be changed, however, absolutely no deal braker

Also, ICE1133 was stopped at Bookholzberg, to let a 425 pass onto the siding, just for it to change over again after the siding. It was a welcome surprise to get some PZB action, however, I would assume it was not intentional?! I would assume the BR425 should have stayed on the main track



Regarding the BR425, two things which seem to be off:
- Front marker lights are also red (in addition to the white one on top)

- The flexible connections between two of the cars is somehow extended into the passenger cabin


If you enter this car you will fall through the floor. The doors on this car dont open. Again, it is clearly highly modded, hence, it may simply be this way and it would be fine, tbh. You can still drive it just fine and the job of the driver is not compromised in any way

 

As for the 425, have you installed V1.1 of the repaint pack?

 

Yes

 

Yes, I can confirm this also…

 

Can confirm the above issues with the 425 as well. The marker and high beam lights are somehow weird and the whole thing about the rubber extension between the cars and the car not opening the doors and clipping through the floor...

 

OpenMinded I am happy to let you know, that all of your reported bugs of the timetable have been fixed on my end!

Now I'm looking at creating new shunting services in Oldenburg using the 363 and possibly redoing the Regio-S-Bahn repaint for the 425.

DenisJura Yes, you can use the timetable, but no IC services will appear.
Also, no IC services using the Dosto IC (this will be changed in V2)

 

Wow, amazing! Will make an already very good mod even better looking forward to v2

 

I know this might be a rather less important issue, but do you think it'd be possible duplicating the back middle car of the Talent 2 instead of taking one from a different Talent 2? It looks a bit weird with the other coaches being shiny and that one middle car does not :/

 

The problem is that we would then be missing a boogie, and if we take just the SKA talent 2 we do not have route dependent PIS.

 

Downloaded the updated 425 mod today, thank you very much for that! The rubber connection is fixed now, however, the head lights still seem to have the same reported issue.

 

Take a look if you have the enhancement mod for the BRO 425 still installed.
After the BRO update, this mod isn't necessary and even got taken offline in case of the TSW4 version.

 

Also, just thought I test the RS30 a bit, as I was suspecting that it was those sevices cutting me off in Bookholzberg (happened to me again with a fright service at another time.

And indeed, they are taking a rather strange pathing. It already starts in Neustadt, where it routes me to the left through the sidings (leads to a delay of approx 2 min at Delmenhorst):

Then the already suspected detour through Bookholzberg, which looked like this from the other side (in respect to my post from yesterday)

I got to Hude approx 4 min late.

After Hude I got routed onto the opposite side track, which had me wait another minute, as another service was pulling into Hude at the time:

The problem here was that another train had already taken part of this route and I would have had to wait even longer, as this other service was still standing in Oldenburg. I deleted this service and was allowed to leave Hude:


As the opposite track towards Oldenburg is only equipped with Ne1 signals at the entry into Wüsting (and I used PZB), this was quite a slow undertaking, as can be imagined After Wüsting I was routed onto the right track again and the rest was rather eventless...

I ended up in Oldenburg with about 7 min delay due to "Störung im Betriebsablauf".

I assume that all RS30 will have the same pathing issues, as they are probably copied service patterns?! I did actually quite enjoyed this, however, I am amazed that the AI signaller does not have muchj more issues at Hude. Especially the services comming from Oldenburg do have potential to blow the timetable up when the RS30 is always trying to claim a path onto the opposite track...

 

I suspect you mean the "Aran-BRO-BR425-Mini-Enhancement-Pack-v1.0-TSW4", correct?! I did indeed had this installed, however, already suspected this problem and had taken it out previously. Ill have a look if there are other potential BRO mods that could cause this...

EDIT: I can confirm that it is another mod. I have deinstalled all mods except the ones you recommend and it works. Just need to find the one...

EDIT 2: found the mod responsible for the conflict. Its "tmSpikeesCabCamFixesTSW4.pak". I have absolutely no idea why it is causing this, however, if I take it out the headlights work as intended
TSW4 CabCam Improvements All-in-One - Train Sim Community

 

Sorry, me again, with another bug report

This time I was driving RS30 (83329) out of Oldenburg (12:05). I could not leave Bremen, as another service (a Talent 2) was using the opposite track from Hude all the way to Oldenburg. I am suspecting that it has something to do with what I have reported above, however, when I was driving the other way I was not actually routed all the was to Oldenburg on the wrong track. Hence, I thought I report it here anyway...

 

As for the wrong driving S30 services: yes, there are various services that use the wrong tracks. But in my build, all of them have already been fixed.

In case of the Talent 2, I will take look at it later today.

Thank you for the constant feedback!

 

I drove the first of the Talent services (Bremen to Oldenburg) and I can confirm that this run didn’t have any issues with pathings. Seems to be an isolated issue with a particular service…

 

OpenMinded Hey, the wrong routed Talent 2 has just been fixed.

If there is anything else any of you has noticed, feel free to let me know as soon as possible.
I'm now starting to work on possible BR 363 services in Oldenburg, as my plan is to release it on the 17th together with the full TSW5 launch.

 

Thank you for the V2 evolution of your timetable mod. Looking forward to be playing it later this week.