General North American 3rd Party News (non Dramatic Version)

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  1. mindenjohn

    mindenjohn Well-Known Member

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    Downloading and installing third party routes and DLC is not a hassle it is actually very simple, not quite as per Steam downloads but no more so (and usually less) than freeware or any other software. By not trying you miss out on third party dlc that makes TSC what it is.
     
  2. trlz#8165

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    i had lots of issues trying to do the free Pa steam flies from railworks finally got it to work but i still dont understand the process tried another route off there and cannot get it to work if i cant get freeware files to work simply im not going buy any and waste money if they cant work ..its not so easy for me ...im not tech agile at all this stuff should de made less complex
     
  3. Gary Padley

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    It's essentially just copy and paste operations---PC file and folder management basics in other words.
     
  4. IronBladder

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    Yes, but it requires knowledge of the folder structure and tools, how to use zip and how to use TS Utilities. Many players don't have this knowledge and so Steam distribution is great for them.
     
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    Also steam is easier for those to redownload if they ever have to move PC's and such, where sometimes you have to re find a 3rd party asset on a site, if it still exists, file reverification, etc.... Some people dont want to go thru that hassle.
     
  6. OldAlaskaGuy

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    By learning and understanding the file structure and doing the simplest installations the Berkshire is a 3 step operation) of third party you can add to your collection from a wide variety of sources on a very slim budget. In some cases you can use Utilities and simply point to a file to install.
     
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    Money as in to live in this world.....
     
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    Speaking of steam, MR's next project:
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  9. OldAlaskaGuy

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    The Western Maryland I2 2-10-0 Decapod. No dates are mentioned yet but the provided picture shows the detail that we all have come to expect from these guys.
     
  10. Gary Padley

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    Not in depth...if an install is just paste the contents of this .zip into x,y,z you need no knowledge other than how to use a PC---don't forget what the 'P' stands for.

    Why the need to re-download?...what's wrong with backups?
     
  11. Blacknred81

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    Depends on the person...

    -They may of had a hardware issue.
    -They may of bought a new PC, and prefer to redownload vs manual moving of files.
    -They may not have backups in place.
     
  12. Gary Padley

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    1--that's why we HAVE backups on external drives
    2--the only times it'd be better to redownload are if the item had been revised since it was backed up, or the backed up files are suspect
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  13. Gary Padley

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    What are the instructions for installing it?
     
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    So, DTM is too stupid to own a PC cause he didn't back up his files whe he 1st started making DLC?

    This comment has really bad "PC MASTER RACE" vibes....like you have to have a degree to own one.
     
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  15. Gary Padley

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    Master race or common sense? Read through any forum and you'll find many posts banging on about the importance of backing up.
     
  16. OldAlaskaGuy

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    Not everyone here has your level of knowledge and thoughtfulness.
     
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  17. Gary Padley

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    There's no great level of knowledge involved, but regardless of that everyone here should be able to type " how do I.....?"
     
  18. DrTrenchcoat

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    Quite frankly not everyone has the disks/space to back everything up, especially as file sizes for dlc continue to balloon.
     
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    ever heard about cloud storage or external drives?
    you don't need to back everything up, but a so called 'professional' (i.e. for money) developer should at least back up his current project daily, his resources weekly.
    the cost of backup hardware and/or services is far less than the lost hours, project, motivation and respect.
     
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  20. mindenjohn

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    Gentlemen, we are all different and we all make our own mistakes. I've lost a day's worth of route construction a few times because I've got so engrossed in "pushing on" and I usually back up regularly, no one is infallible and being fallible is not the same as stupid, it's human.
     
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  21. buzz4567

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    Remind me, this is the undramatic thread? Moderators? Anyone?
     
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  22. Craigie-C

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    Why do you always have to be so opiniated and vicious in your retorts?
    This used to be a friendly, helpful forum.
    Of late I would not dare to ask for guidance as all I would receive in return is sarcasm and unwanted criticism. Just because I don't do it your way I am deemed "Stupid"
    I find that offensive !!!
     
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  23. trlz#8165

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    i feel the same way .i dont think downloading files is easy ..then several on here just say it is and make ppl feel stupid and low ..not everyone is a computer science wizard ..i have no one that has time or patience in my life to show how in great detail to do files i have learning diabilities was in special ed classes in school and hated school because of it getting ridiculed because im not as smart etc ..there probably lots of ppl that may have issues with files but afraid to admit it cause may get shamed and belittled..simply put steam store is easiest way for me to get content developers need to make their stuff easily accessable in this way so everyone can buy it easily hassle free id even be willing to pay extra for it ..i know they would have to pay steam a fee etc but in long run they would get more sales and exposure, as far as freeware they could put it in steam workshop i can get stuff off there easily also
     
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  24. Spikee1975

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    This thread has gone far off topic imho, please let's keep to NA content news and don't risk this thread getting locked.

    Thanks all :)
     
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  25. Gary Padley

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    Nobody is saying you specifically are stupid, but that the procedures you need to follow are classed as being basic PC management tasks. I've already asked what are the instructions for installing the route you had bother with but I suspect you missed that. Post that, or even send me a PM, and I'll happily see if I can de-mystify it for you.
     
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    There is a very thin line between confidence and arrogance.
     
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    Here's Bozeman Pass Loco #4, the SD45
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  31. steve.cunningham1980

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    I think the weathering on the bodywork looks good, but the bogies look almost garishly clean by comparison and that throws the whole thing a little out of whack.
     
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    Its a bit too brown, looks more like long time rust than road grime, it needs to be a bit more washed out.
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  33. mfeets

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    It's not, these units were near brand new in the era the route is set, and they didn't ever pick up this much rust while in NP paint, as most if not all of the fleet was repainted before 1980. The bogies being near clean is arguably one of the best looking parts on the unit. Also, that is NOT how rust formed on black SD45s-look at DRGW units to see the real effects of rust on SD45s over the course of 30 years.
     
  34. DrTrenchcoat

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    Why do they look like they've been in a mud bath? I'm sure the dtm apologists will find a single photo of a unit covered in mud but it sure as hell doesn't look representative of the units in service. Also if the body is covered in mud then why are the trucks still so clean. Ugh.
     
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  35. buzz4567

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    No nit too small to pick.
     
  36. Spikee1975

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    It's impossible to read this thread if you're looking for news only. If you don't like the textures, repaint them. Stuff is sold as-is.
     
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  38. Spikee1975

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    Reppo has also done the DTG GP40 and GP60's.
     
  39. IronBladder

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    It would be better if you don't post at all, if all you can do is moan.

    You're allowed to not like the modelling or texturing, but it would be more productive to make constructive criticism about ways it could be improved, rather than just offer up rudeness.

    TSC is a rapidly shrinking creation space. These products may not be perfect, but they are a lot better than the alternative, which is nothing. Would you prefer that?
     
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  40. mindenjohn

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    Fully agree. It's been said before - buying is not compulsory, for that matter nor is complaining.
     
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  41. steve.cunningham1980

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    Why would supplying evidence that something actually did look as represented here make somebody an "apologist"?

    And I thought this route was being created by High Iron, not DTM?
     
  42. Spikee1975

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    High Iron is like ATS - the project manager. Routes done by G-Trax and GreatNortherner, stock largely by DTM. HIS makes the scenarios.
     
  43. DrTrenchcoat

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    My sincerest apologies for having standards. So sorry.
     
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  44. DrTrenchcoat

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    TW having standards:

    Also just noticed on the sd45s, is it just me or are they missing their radio antennas?
     
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    I am very much looking forward to this, Reppo does good jobs on their DLC even down to the functionality of the now over a decade old Baldwin Centipede DLC. As a huge AT&SF fan this looks very promising; more AT&SF content for TSC is always a win in my books. :)

    I only have a small nitpick to make and it’s that the AT&SF yellow and red looks way too vibrant; but it isn’t a major issue to me.
     
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  46. DrTrenchcoat

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    I was a little disappointed by their recent aem-7, but even so they're the second best US dev after Searchlight and even if it doesn't reach the level of the E33 it'll be really nice to have.
     
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    I really want their electrics, the E33 and AEM-7 as you mention but also the E60. They look like good fun.
     
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    Everyone has standards. And they are all subjective. Mine will be different to yours will be different to HI/DTM/whoever. It doesn't mean one is right and the others are wrong, they're just different.

    I think the issue some here have with the criticisms that are levelled at this (these?) developer(s) in particular is that they seem to go round in circles, with the same comments being made over and over with each new product produced, and they do at times seem to border on the personal, which is at the very least somewhat inconsiderate to the feelings of others. The fact that these items are being produced commercially does not negate the human element.
     
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    I really like and recommend the E60 (with some community improvements,) the m2/m4 and the e33. None of them are perfect but they're really fun, and while NYNH isn't a particularly good route, the level of ai traffic on it does a lot to minimize its failings
     
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