Hello folks at DTG, attached below are what the WCML should look like, links include TFL, bakerloo, and LNWR amd AWC As you seemed to have trouble finding accurate ones us the community found them for you https://content.tfl.gov.uk/watford-...don-overground-timetable-june-to-dec-2024.pdf https://www.railwaydata.co.uk/timetables/tfl_bak/timetable.php?table=27Aug22 https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/gb-nr:EUS/2024-09-16/0400 this should help you create a proper timetable based upon reality
Alex isn’t to blame here, he’s only a community manager in this situation, only trying to calm things and deliver as much information, please, don’t shoot the messenger
I'm going to hazard a guess that googling the timetables wasn't an issue for them and that there are other reasons, which this rather sarky post won't solve.
Have you considered other factors, like time, cost, technical issues (see Bakerloo Line for that one) or performance (see HMA). Or, at least, considered losing the passive-aggressive tone? I highly doubt they intentionally lower quality of DLC.
lmao so your accepting this Mid content are you? He is being honest like the rest of us. Give your head a wobble if you really think it is acceptable. Look through all the feedback. Their are services that should not stop at Watford but do. Again Realtimetrains is right here.
There is a way of getting your message across and sarcastic posts are not the way, in my experience of business it is likely to garner the opposite affect. DTG are very well aware of the views of many on this forum. Whatever has gone wrong with the timetable as said above is hardly has been a deliberate decision to make something bad. We don't even know for certain who built the timetable.
Hmmm think we are very certain it is a rivet timetable mate. So DTG are aware of them. Okay. But nothing seems like it is going to be done. What do you mean 'whatever has gone wrong'? Well it is deliberate in my eyes, they have posted it and looks like without any real testing and that.
We don't know why it is like this. It might be a technical problem or maybe they ran out of time. I doubt someone said "let's make a really bad timetable". I hope something is done as much as you and all they have said is no promises. It's not going to happen overnight though. Also Rivet are not the only third part involved in WCMLS.
I get where your coming from but I am just speaking from Passion and also the experienced with rivet Timetables.
I know people are frustrated, but really ? I am pretty sure the Dev team can also use a keyboard and Google. There are clearly other reasons why the timetable is not what it should be. Will we ever get to find out exactly why? Probably not.
Have you seen the freight timetable on WCML Although all of these are classed as Intermodal services a few of these are wrong. The following list are a few examples. 6M95 Dungeness - Crewe is a DRS service Transferring Nuclear Waste (Flasks) (6M95 1607 Dungeness British Energy to Crewe Coal Sidings (Drs)) 6M69 Sizewell - Crewe is a DRS service Transferring Nuclear waste (flasks) the same as above. 5Q73 Old Dalby - Old Oak Common is an ecs movement. and not an intermodal service 1S24 Willsden - Shieldsmuir is the Royal Mail Class 325's. Theres Other Headcodes of 6X23 which are not intermodal. Theres aggregate codes in there as well So Yeah They definitley looked them up....not. Hentis
I have no doubt you are correct. But is this more likely down to developer error and/or creative license? The timetables are available for everyone. Perhaps I am giving DTG too much credit.
Don’t worry, I’m sure someone in the community will make a brand new timetable in a couple months time with all of the missing services and using the correct formations. It’s a shame that DTG couldn’t get it right, but there’s still hope if you play on PC.
He wasn't involved in creating this timetable. But when he is, it's very very busy. However don't expect a new tt any time soon since Joe is busy with other things
Accepting it and recognising there may be reasons are two different things, and you full-well know that. At the same end, demanding change and being sarcastic, if not rude, in doing so are two different things.
As I have said before, a few of us need to cool our jets. There are a large number of services in the timetable and the overall number comes close to the real daily traffic pattern, except maybe ECS moves - freaking out because a freight service is intermodal instead of DRS - do you know of any nuclear flask wagons/cars or class 325 or 805 in TSW? Large swathes of the timetable, as with any other major station traffic pattern, are repeated services and I am happy if the route looks close to real-life busy, given the constraints of available traction/rolling stock. You could, of course, compare train id numbers (1Rxx, 2Yxx etc) in WCML with the numbers from real timetables for the appropriate period if you want to pin-point what is missing - good luck with that.
They don't need defense, but truth should be defended in any case. It's at best impractical at most actively detrimental to blame the wrong people for a problem. Do you scream at the cashier for the prices at the grocery, based solely on the premise that they choose to work there? Same logic here.
I get complaints about cancelled trains, yet I only clean them. So blaming someone for something out of their control is pretty normal.
What the hell are you talking about? I’m sure DTG have worked out where they can source timetables from! Don’t bother replying I’ve blocked you from now on!
Thanks…it is! And the best news is I didn’t even need the links to the timetable from the OP either lol
Haha, I don't think those timetables would have been that useful anyway. The OP should have linked to the Network Rail WTT's at least.
Rivet’s fingerprints are all over this timetable. I’m sick to death of them ruining UK content. They have absolutely no understanding of what people who play simulators want. We want something that simulates the real world. Rivet just take the lazy route and leave everything half done. I mean look at the CIS boards. They couldn’t even be bothered to get the station names right which is just inputting text. Then add in that they couldn’t even get the 350 formations right and it’s just a disaster. This franchise is never going to move forward as long as Rivet are involved. They’re dragging it down.
Just had a quick spin on the xbox and it seems much too quiet. I will reserve full judgement for a proper run tomorrow, but I don't think this stance will change. Timetables are the most important thing which brings a route and rolling stock together, this one does not seem to be very effective.
