PC Basics Tutorial Changing Ends, Train Doesn't Move Forward

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  1. mdegroot02

    mdegroot02 New Member

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    As a beginner I have reached the basics tutorial about changing ends. I have succeeded in moving past the junction, shut down the first cab, walked to the second end cab. Then I havefollowed the steps to operate the cab. I got the message "You are good to go", meaning it is okay to move the train forward. That is where I hit the problem: When setting the power/brake handle to P1, the train doesn't move forward at all.
    I have repeated the whole procedure twice, but both times the train doesn't move forward at all. I also closed the door through which I entered the cab, but that didn't solve the problem either.
    I would appreciate any help you can give me so that I may continue with these tutorials. Kind regards, Martin de Groot
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    You did put the reverser into forwards, yes?

    Brakes fully released?
     
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    I had the same problem. The brakes are not releasing on the cab car. I also can hear air constantly venting from the brake pipe. Something is not shut down correctly in the loco at the other end, but I'm not sure what. I always have trouble with getting the brakes to release in a Dosto cab car after driving the the locomotive. It depends on what type of loco is pushing it, and I can never remember how to leave brakes set up so the cab car works. The instructions in this tutorial leaves the player with brakes that won't release in the cab car.
     
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    mdegroot02 New Member

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    Yes, the brake and power are in one combined brake /power handle. The positions are Emergency brake, B3, B2, B1, Neutral, P1, P2 P3 and maybe P4.
    I set the position to P1, nothing happens, P2 nothing happens.
     
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    aeronautic237 Well-Known Member

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    What train is this? Class 377/2?
     
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    mdegroot02 New Member

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    Yes, Master key on, reverser forward, brake released power-brake handle went from B3 to B2 to B1 to Neural, to P1 and with P1 the train should start moving, but nothing happens.
    I have fully shut down the cab at the first end, then walked over to the cab at the other end, then set up the cab for moving, but nothing happens.
     
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    mdegroot02 New Member

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    This train is class 323, it is used in the Train Sim World 5 Training center, Basics tutorials.

    The tutorials starting with moving a train from the cab work fine, until I get to the tutorial about changing ends of the train, i.e. shutting down the first cab, then walking to the cab at the other end of the train Then when I set up the train for moving the train doesn't move when I set the power/brake handle to P1. There is no message at all to warn me that I am doing anything wrong, and in the tutorais up to this point the train would start moving after the power/brake handle was set to P1. Should I report this to the support department so that they can check what is going on?
     
  8. elric#1386

    elric#1386 Well-Known Member

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    When you shut down the cab you have to make sure the break is set at 3. If it's set at 4 then when you have changed cabs the train won't move due the emergency brake being applied.
    It's easy to put it in 4 and think it's in 3. Also because the lever travels through 3 it is recorded as task complete.
     
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    Sorry forgot to mention it : TSW5
     
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    elric#1386 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry my fault. I meant brake positions. B3, B4.
    When moving from B2 to B3 it is easy to put it into B4 without realising. B4 is the emergency brake, and from the seated position the B3 and B4 are very close together.
    So if it is in the B4 position, when you set up the opposite end cab it isn't able to move because the emergency brake is applied in the other cab.
    I've done it a couple of times, and it's annoying having to walk all the way along the whole length of the train.
     
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    Having this exact same problem in this very tutorial. Gone back and forth at least three times making sure all is set up at both ends as tutorial described. I restarted the tutorial twice with the same result. Then I realized something. The tutorial gives you the command to stop, showing the quick key D. Naturally I followed the instructions and came to a stop near what looks like a white power box. After swapping a few times, I could not move. But I remembered the destination marker was still a bit away when I stopped and the top right indicator had shown there was still distance to move. I restarted the tutorial and this time went farther, ignoring the tutorial intervention and went till the yellow dotted line ran out, just after a bit of a squiggle in the track. I was able to swap ends freely and travel. So I think maybe it was not registering I had gone far enough to trigger the tutorial stage despite it telling me to stop. I dunno. So give that a try. Stop farther down the track and see if it works for you. I will be submitted a report on this issue as I have been able to reproduce it a couple of times.
     
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    I've noticed gaps in tutorials, like one telling you to apply throttle and go – but it didn't tell you to close the train doors first. I think this is a universal issue with people familiar with something writing tutorials, not putting themselves in the minds of the beginners they are teaching. It's a skill in itself to put yourself in that mindset and think of every detail, especially the ones that seem obvious or second nature to you, the person teaching/writing instructions.
     
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  13. aeronautic237

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    I just did that tutorial (I think), and was able to move (even after stopping next to the box mentioned above).

    Could it be that the cab doors were left open when you changed ends?

    Also moving the power controller to Emergency doesn't do anything once you shut down the cab.

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    All doors and brake settings were checked thoroughly each time moving ends and restarting the tutorial. It's possible it just doesn't happen to everyone. Lucky us lol. The only thing that worked for me was travelling farther down the track. I guess we'll just chalk this one up to random heh
     
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