How Do I Make The Driver Face The Opposite Way?

I have the Machine Rail GNFO GL8 which is a Metre Gauge diesel with a cab at one end and the driver looks down the long bonnet on the RH side. When I run the loco I have the Cab leading and I have to turn to face the other way.

I wondered what do I change to make the drive stay in the same position but facing the "rear" of the loco.

This is the Driver Position Matrix
<e d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="000000000000F03F" d:precision="string">1</e>
<e d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="0000000000000000" d:precision="string">0</e>
<e d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="0000000000000000" d:precision="string">0</e>
<e d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="0000000000000000" d:precision="string">0</e>
<e d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="0000000000000000" d:precision="string">0</e>
<e d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="000000000000F03F" d:precision="string">1</e>
<e d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="0000000000000000" d:precision="string">0</e>
<e d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="0000000000000000" d:precision="string">0</e>
<e d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="0000000000000000" d:precision="string">0</e>
<e d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="0000000000000000" d:precision="string">0</e>
<e d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="000000000000F03F" d:precision="string">1</e>
<e d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="0000000000000000" d:precision="string">0</e>
<e d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="0000008014AEF13F" d:precision="string">1.105</e>
<e d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="000000E024060240" d:precision="string">2.253</e>
<e d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="00000080C04A1840" d:precision="string">6.073</e>
<e d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="000000000000F03F" d:precision="string">1</e>

Any ideas please?

Peter

 

Hi my drivers i can face ether way just by using my mouse buttons when you add driver.

 

One of the 4x4 matrix' values (translation, rotation and scale) holds the Y axis rotation. I'll look it up (I have a small excel sheet somewhere I've setup for adjusting headlight angles)

Off my head, #13 - #15 are the position (translation) x y and z coordinates.

Try changing values #1 and #11 to "-1".

 

Thanks Spike - I will give that a go.

 

Not quite - you put a driver icon and you are facing which is defined as Forward - like in the cab of a Steam loco
You can turn yourself round with the mouse but next time you will still be facing forward.

 

749006 Peter, I just made a quick check with the Kuju Class 47 BR Blue.

#1 and #11 were -0.9xxx, I've inverted them both to 1 (-1 or 1 depends on the child model's own initial orientation) (Note: edit the child object at the bottom of the blueprint, not the <DriverPosition>, which I think is useless and a Kuju leftover.

Basically just multiply the values in first and eleventh position by -1 to face the opposite of current direction. (I've rounded 0.97xxx up to 1. That's OCD )

Success:

 

Oh ok from seeing the pic it could be a bug in the game iv never tried that loco.

 

Oh ok from seeing the pic it could be a bug in the game iv never tried that loco.

 

The pic is an example and Spikee proving that those are the values to reverse the drivers facing position lol, these guys have got it, don't worry yourself about it.

 

It is unlikely you would have it.

 

When you start the game are you still looking out of the front even though the driver is now reversed?

 

Yes. That has nothing to do with the driver, only the cab camera.

To have the camera facing in the backward direction, set its <CameraRotation> Z to -1 and X a little greater than 0. Important is that the horizontal freedom is bigger than pi (3.141), else the camera will snap around like crazy. I set it to 4. (anything bigger doesn't make a difference, as the unit is Radians.)



Note you can do all these changes on the fly without restarting TS. You only need to Replay (not Restart!) the scenario, no cache clearing required here.

 

I modified the CabCam.bin to .bak. Then I changed the xml to your settings and used Serz to create a new CabCam.bin

But when the game starts I'm still facing Forward down the Long Hood and I have to use the mouse to view the opposite way.




Not sure what I did wrong?

 

Attach the zipped cabcam.bin

Where did you get this? I can only see Machine Rail doing steam engines. DieselWorkshop also doesn't have that loco.

Googling "train simulator GL8 gnfo" also gives no results.

 

Machine Rail don't make this loco any more - they used to.
I have a Steam loco in the same GNFO folder - a BLW 1912 24D Ten-Wheeler
It was November 2020 when I purchased it from them

Peter

 

Ok that cabcam bin is unaltered.

Do you want both driver and conductor position to face the other way?

Here you go (I've also updated the xml to current blueprint standard (HasWindowCamera, FOV defs), not that it matters, that's my OCD.)

 

that is brilliant Spikee1975 (Peter)

When I got the GL8 I also got a Steam loco and two coaches - I don't use the steam loco very much though


They were from Machine Rail before they split the Diesel Workshop away.

I also got the CP/Portuguese Railways RSC3 Alco from Diesel Workshop and it is another loco they don't sell any more