San Bernadino Line, Some Notes.....

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  1. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    You can turn off the layer. There are more freight services on the weekend.
     
  2. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    It has both, but all the activities are on the eastern end of the route in BNSF territory. It's mainly only local switching duties plus the Kaiser Hauler. Union Pacific is AI only.

    THERE IS NO FREIGHT TRAIN THAT RUNS THE ROUTE IRL.

    If you wanna so that, just use free roam.
     
  3. kblackwood6

    kblackwood6 New Member

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    NOT SURE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I DO NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE MODELING. IF IT IS THE SAN BERN ROUTE IN CALIFORNIA THAT GOES TO DOWNTOWN SAN BERNADINO BNSF RUNS A TON OF TRAINS ON THAT ROUTE.
     
  4. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, but they get routed south on BNSF's San Bernardino Subdivision towards Fullerton to Commerce and Long Beach, not Metrolink's San Gabriel Subdivision, which is what the San Bernardino Line uses. There is AI trains, but thats about it for mainline freight.
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/live/1pngjjGBT3c?si=WHfc73upcWbHOme6
     
  7. sir#5236

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    Trees hovering over building by SBTC (Downtown SB) upload_2024-9-21_14-26-39.jpeg
     
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  8. kblackwood6

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    OK Alot of people are misinformed about this. It is not the San Bernadino line but the Pasadena line that is in TSW. I
    do not know why they are calling it that.
     
  9. Canadian Follower

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    I’m sorry? Going off of Metrolinks route map, you can clearly see it’s the San Bernardino line that’s represented starting at Cal State and ending at San Bernardino..
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  10. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    The Pasadena Sub splits off of the San Gabriel sub AKA the San Bernadino Line near Pasadena.

    Sub =/= Line
     
  11. MAX1319

    MAX1319 Well-Known Member

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    thank you for bringing this to our attention. I actually found more tress in the area that need to be removed. all have been filed
     
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    No problem ,
    I have a question as to the placement of the Downtown SB yard spawn point , Is that Spawn point meant to be for the Metrolink Maintenance yard or BNSF yard?
     
  14. Monder

    Monder Well-Known Member

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    This is probably one of those moments, where de-branding could help. Similar to what is being done with some GWR remaster trains - just pick various passenger car models, make them clean stainless and it will be better than a Caltrain-MBTA mixture.
     
  15. MAX1319

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    GWR remaster was done as a passion dev project on the side. This was the only option and the only reason it was even considered was the layer option which can be turned off if desired
    . It seemed like a no brained since the UK and German routes get some unique formations done in their routes.This feedback does makes it much harder to get in for future US routes.
     
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  16. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    kinda liking it - my only gripe is the same as with AVL, which is lack of safety systems stuff enforcement, no real punishment for breaking speed limits etc... but otherwise a nice, chill, long ride :)

    edit: had a bit of a hard time reading from the display (which displays amount of tractive force / braking)... and kinda dont understand the exact workings of dynamic brake on F125 (not saying it is a bug just a gap in my knowledge I guess?) - experimented with like putting throttle in "setup" for a couple seconds, then using blended dynamic brake, but sometimes I also just used automatic brake handle (which also seemed to engage some e-brake or dynamic brake), and sometimes both, which seemed to yield even more stopping power... so what exactly determines how much dynamic brake is used? or e-brake? I am kinda confused :) on MP36PH it has simpler display/dial/indicator, on F125 it also shows numerical data (also the kLb units still confuse me cos I am used to thinking in kN :D )

    if someone can teach me about dynamic brakes on this loco, and if they think they are done correctly here, I would be thankful, cos I know literal poo about some aspects of US locos :D
     
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  17. kblackwood6

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    your wrong Canadian sorry for your confusion.
     
  18. SCAX874

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    I can help a bit with that. To start with, the dynamic brakes on both the F125 and MP36 are indeed modeled correctly in TSW. Dynamic braking is engaged in two ways. First, you can use the master controller (throttle) by pushing it past the Setup notch and into the dynamic brake range. This will apply dynamic braking to the locomotive, with no other braking (i.e. air brakes) applied to the cars. The second way is through blended braking. This is when you apply air brakes using the Automatic Brake handle. When you apply over a certain amount of air brakes, the locomotive removes the air brakes from the loco only (air brakes stay applied to the cars) and replaces it with a roughly equivalent dynamic braking force. This saves wear and tear on the locomotive's wheels and brake pads. Note that blended braking *only* engages when the throttle is in Idle. If the throttle/master controller is in anything else other than Idle, the locomotive will not give you blended braking. So for example, if you are braking but you need a bit more speed, you can move the throttle down a couple notches to get some power; this will kill any dynamic braking and instead give you some power in addition to the air brakes. Alternatively, you can set the air brakes but then push the master controller into the dynamic range to basically set your own amount of dynamic braking, if you think you need more than what blended braking is providing. Hopefully that helps give some basic background on it!
     
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    So, unlike freight locos there's no need to bail off when applying air with dynamics running?
     
  20. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    so lets say I engage the dynamic braking range on throttle lever to get down to certain speed but I see I would not make it in time, so I also engage automatic brake, will that increase also the (total) dynamic braking?
     
  21. Spikee1975

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    Reading the gauges will answer this. They show the tractive/dynamic brake effort. :)
     
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  22. magic#6391

    magic#6391 New Member

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    Anyone else experience this? The first time I start up a route at Pomona North (and only when it starts there), my train derails as soon as I start moving despite 100% correct setup. I find it happens multiple times, but once I finally have a run where I don't derail, it never happens again on that same route....very very strange bug?
     
  23. NateDogg7a

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    Try turning the enhanced suspension off if you encounter this problem again
     
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  24. SCAX874

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    I believe that’s correct, the air should bail off the loco automatically if you have dynamics on and apply the brakes, on passenger locos that have blended braking capability
     
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  25. SCAX874

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    No, if you have the dynamic brakes set yourself and then apply the automatic brake, the amount of dynamic braking will stay the same - whatever you have the master controller set at. The air brakes on the cars will still apply so you will still slow down more though. The only time the loco controls the amount of dynamic brakes itself is through blended braking, which requires the master controller to be set to Idle
     
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