Awesome Tsw Service Mode Runs

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  1. JustWentSouth

    JustWentSouth Well-Known Member

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    If you want a similar, but more challenging experience in the expert 101 Cab Car, try ICE (1193) Berlin Ost to Frankfurt (M) Flughafen at 12:45. When you get to the stop, be patient. The line won't clear until 13:36, 2 minutes before you are due at Frankfurt Süd. After that, it is a bit of chaos!

    If you are interested in this, run it soon. I can't imagine either the 101 or Cab Car runs will last beyond the next patch.

    I am really enjoying the expert 101 on this route. The Cab Car is a nice challenge with the throttle and brake delays. Also the lack of AFB means you have to be very careful of your speed on the gradients and manage your own LZB braking curves - awesome!
     
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    It's just not been programmed by DTG to do it correctly, which is annoying as it forces you to check the HUD briefly. Yes you can usually tell which mode you're in just by "knowing" PZB but IRL it'd be indicated. The behaviour is correct in the Expert 101 MFD, for example.
     
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    Is it original? Probably. Is it unusual? Sure is! Just play it and find out.
    Fife Circle, class 385, 10:05 5R29.
    Welcome to Wonderland!
     
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    very unusual
     

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    Clinchfield RR Journey mode extra 3016 extra coal train
    It used to be bugged so you couldn't start decently but it seems to be fixed
    - Difficult start with a lot of wheelslip (but doable, not as when it was bugged)
    - A few yellow/red lights to let another train pass in a loop
    - stopping into Dante on quite a steep downwards slope
    it says 1hr11 but i think it takes longer :) for fans of slow freight!
     
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    iriv#7314 Well-Known Member

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    Now i just found out it's already in the spreadsheet, so i wonder what changed, as last time i tried i didnt even get forward?
     
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    I think the real problem was with Journeymode starting it in the snow. If I recall, people suggested backing the train up to where the gradient is less steep so that you could build up speed. On dry rails, it ran slow but was reasonable.
     
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    Yes, but that seems fixed now :D It still is a hard start, but i could build up speed on a normal basis
     
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    I'd like to suggest 8Z47/8Z48 pair of trains on Blackpool Branches (Class 47/4 and requires Spirit of Steam).

    It's one of the relatively rare services of type "fully serve a siding". I suppose that in reality this pair of trains serves a siding and gets loaded/unloaded there – that's not present in TSW, they remain unloaded the whole time – but you will still get to do all the parts relevant to the driving.

    The twist is: the consist is unbraked. Old wagons of very simple construction, with no continuous brake pipe. And a brake van!

    This also means that turning the consist around is very complicated, because it's not just a loco run-around, but you also need to move the brake van from one end of the consist to the other, which is rather complex operation requiring double sidings:

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    The service is split into three parts: first 8Z47 (Part 1) and third 8Z48 are mainline runs, still interesting to play, don't forget that the consist has no brakes, so the only thing you have is your loco brake. Your speed is for that reason also limited to 35 mph.

    The juicy part is the 8Z47 (Part 2), that contains all the shunting. Expect it to be lengthy and requiring extreme amount of movements to achieve a simple thing :) The whole time you can also watch rather large amount of trains passing by at the mainline.

    Spirit of Steam is required for the wagons.
     
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    It's also fun to ride on the brake van. Stoke up the heater to get a nice plume of smoke too!
     
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    If not mentioned in the 36 pages before, I can recommend to you the Service RE 83 (11463) Kiel - Hamburg on Hamburg - Lübeck with the BDnrzf 463 Diesel.
    Highlights:

    -Expect a lot of traffic over the whole route.
    -Experience a interesting trackchange of an AI service while waiting on a red signal in Bad Oldesloe
    -I drove in November with snowfalling and cloudy sky towards the sunrise, it was a really relaxing ambience
    -The train was to 90% full, that you feel your work make sense. In Hasselbrook I have to broke the timetable because of the people still running out of the train. Luckily the timetable is really relaxed.
    - Expect the perfect level of PZB action, not to low not to much
     
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    Oh this one, this almost broke me, I did the first section, was coming up to the objective point and the red signal, Can't remember if it was line speed or I was going slower but I was driving defensively, applied the brakes for the stop....and sailed right past the red signal haha.

    To say I turned the air blue is an understatement lol. So I loaded it back up, drove the same and then saved it just before the objective point. Thankfully that time I stopped lol.
     
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    2nd run I will recommend is the “Beats by Bremen” Scenario in the DB BR 425.
    It gives you a relaxed feeling with the sun setting whilst you head to Bremen. The 425 is honestly quite easy to drive (Especially if you already have driven a 423) and (I’m not so sure on this one) you get to hear the music of the festival as if they are welcoming you to Bremen
     
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    With this type of train, I would reduce the speed immediately to 20 mph when encountering a distant signal on yellow, and further brake down to not exceed 10 mph when less than 150-200 meters ahead of the red signal. :)

    You can also grab Class 31 that has a stronger brake, but you'll get much less exciting soundset than the 47/4.
     
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    Awesome runs. I somehow missed them before this. Took a 45 for this and it brought me right back to my diesel freight driver day at the Nene Valley. Also tried to stick to no more than 25psi in the brake cylinders, which is what I was told to stick to with unfitted wagons back then. That makes braking even trickier.
     
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    While eagerly awaiting Just Train's Preston-Carlisle route, I just discovered and purchased the West Cornwall Local Route (yes, it's old [TSW3], but new to me. This well done route includes two excellent freight sessions: "Slow Ride" and "Sleepy Delivery" that are not to be missed by freight/shunting fanatics such as myself.

    P.s.: If you've never set up a Class 37/5 engine, be sure to drive its tutorial first!
     
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    Peak Forest

    On the Tunstead banking turn with 8f leading and 4f banking, I uncoupled the 4f from the rear and did the run with 8f for slightly more challenge. However I then thought, ok this time I will spawn another 18 wagon ICI train behind the original one, and couple them together. After I completed a run I added more wagons , so I had a huge train of ICI wagons. I then spawned another two 4fs at the rear and a Jubilee to pilot the 8f at the front. This brought the weight of the train to 3,500 tons. As I was getting ready to depart from the Tunstead siding it started raining, so I had to put the sanders on the locos. Setting the path from the rear 4f, I could then use the external camera to adjust the Jubilee controls. Previously I had taken a 2,600 tons train from Tunstead through Peak Forest without using any sanders, as it was dry. Not content with this I spawned a mixed freight at Ambergate, on the front I had Kolhapur piloting and 8f. At the rear I had one 8f, and two 4fs. Total weight of the train was 5,555 tons, 0.6 miles long. I was able to get this going without much fuss, and didn't need the sanders while driving through Crompton High Peak. Next I will try 7,000 tons :D, obviously the downhill sections can be tricky.. best to keep speed below 20mph.

    Not really service mode, but quite fun.
     
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    The 142 is great to drive on the St Ives branch as well
     
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    First time I've seen "West Cornwall Local" and "well done route" in the same post.:)
     
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    you shouldn't complain when somebody enjoys something...

    as an example, i bought Fife circle when it came out and actually enjoyed all my runs
    When they brought out their patch with fixed, that is when i started disliking fife
    it's all about expectation ....

    Fife came out: bad expectation, but still fun runs (not looking at the grass)
    Fife improvements came out and didnt meet my expectation, so i completely stopped.

    Don't judge somebody because he likes some runs in a 'paria' route
     
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    It should be obvious to anyone that I made a humorous aside.
     
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    iriv#7314 Well-Known Member

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    oh i know, just giving some interpretation :D
     
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    Misinterpretation, more like, since I was neither complaining nor judging!
     
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    A nice enjoyable run on FFA: RE51 (15569) Fulda to Frankfurt (Main) Hbf. It's the 146, but I ran it with the Vectron thanks to this mod by TaskPlays:
    https://www.trainsimcommunity.com/m...ulda-db-railpool-vectron-on-regional-services

    Nothing too spectacular, but the dispatcher does exactly what they are supposed to do for your semi-express service. Run it in December for a nice sunrise. The AI into Frankfurt Main is cool and . . .
    . . . you encounter an RB51 service near Wirtheim and then pass it at Gelnhausen. You encounter another regional just outside Hanau which you pass at Offenbach.

    Edit: I ran this in the Expert 101 timetable. The setup looks similar in the original timetable, but I am not sure it runs the same way.
     
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    I wanted to recommend the 06:32 Freight Dresden - Riesa run but I noticed its already in the spreadsheet. I tried it both with the DB Vectron and the BR 218, both are excellent runs, although the 218 struggles considerably with the weight. There is quite a bit of SPAD potential and PzB action on leaving Dresden and I got routed via the Coswig branch for a bit with the weird (but cool) east German signaling. I highly recommend this run.
     
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    Walk back to Riesa Hbf afterwards and you will be just in time to take over the 7:25 intercity to Dresden with the BR101.
     
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    Thanks for the update! I put it on the TSW3-5 sheet with the 218 and Vectron. It is good to know that the run is still awesome.
     
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    I did this in the normal timetable (because the expert one is bugged on PS5 as it stands) with the 146 and it played out much the same. Unfortunatley (and even worse: much as I have come to expect), the game crashed on the last few meters into Frankfurt Hbf.

    Before that, it was a lovely run though. The shout-out for December was good. Coupled with fog from the dynamic weather, the view was very pleasing indeed.
     
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    I have a hard time believing no one has recommended the scenario Havoc Across The Hudson on NEC New York Trenton. This scenario has everything. Starting with the challenging locomotive, to the safety system drops, to waiting on reds and potential SPADs. Oh, and dynamic weather too, and a cool custom diorama near the end is the cherry on top. I loved every minute of this and I can't recommend it enough. I managed to do this without penalty brake application and it's always a (very welcome) challenge with the ALP-46.
     
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    1D25 at 18:36 on ECML in the 801/1.

    Stopping at all stations except Newark Northgate.

    Just south of Stoke Tunnel, you'll get slowed down by a Class 158 which is ahead of you. Easy to SPAD if you're not careful.

    There's plenty of slack in the timetable to account for this, I managed to arrive at Grantham 5 minutes early (after SPADding twice).

    Routine run after that, although while you're stuck at Retford three Azumas will pass you (one comes from behind and the other two from Doncaster).
     
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    I don't have the MML DLC, so may give this one a go and see how early I can arrive at Grantham.
     
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    I ran this in August and there is also a nice Flying Scotsman pass on the way to Grantham that would make for a good screenshot in the late afternoon/early evening sun.
     
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    Frankfurt-Fulda FLX 1819 is fixed and quite nice

    You're catching up with a RE (ECS i think) service with adverse signals
    Before entering Frankfurt Sud there will be a red light too

    JustWentSouth we'll have to review FLX 1818 GOAT as the freight train stopping in the wrong place in Wirtzheim seems to be fixed.
    I havent tried it yet
     
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    Nice run. It is great to complete the Flixtrain timetable. So many good runs in there.
    IIRC, I didn't put any of the runs on the spreadsheet that involved the freight stopping short at Wirtzheim. I figured it would get fixed sooner or later. I don't think that affects the FLX 1818 GOAT run, but I may just have to repeat it to make sure :)
     
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    How I love a good ECS run:

    FFA: RE51 (15568) Empty Stock Move Fulda to Frankfurt (Main) at 19:33 with the 146

    If you are on PC and prefer the Vectron, you can use this mod by TaskPlays:
    https://www.trainsimcommunity.com/m...ulda-db-railpool-vectron-on-regional-services

    Be sure to launch this service - and all other non Expert 101 or 101 Cab Car services - on the regular non-expert timetable.*

    If, like me, you are addicted to TSW sunsets, you can run it in May. The AI is impressive, even for this route and . . .
    you wait for a freight to leave Fulda and follow it for the first part of the run.

    * There are some Expert 101 and Cab Car services that encounter AI SPAD when you launch them. If you want to run them, you can follow these instructions originally reported by fabienlimp95 in the FFA Feedback thread:

    just disable all the 363 layers. I haven't bothered to figure out which 363 layer it is and have all of them disabled for the Expert timetable.
     
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  38. arbo#8764

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    I've just enjoyed this run on Frankfurt - Fulda:

    FFA: RB 51 (15526) Frankfurt Main Hbf - Wächtersbach 17:36

    There is a wait after leaving Frankfurt Main station, then try to reduce your delay to be on time after Hanau. The part after Hanau has some nice interaction with an RE 50. In general, there are some nice interacting AI services.

    You leave the station to clear the platform for an incoming ICE but are held by a red on the ramp to let a BR642 RB 85 (25151) pass.
    Following the RB 85, there are yellows and reds until Offenbach, but you can compensate most of your delay until Hanau. A RE 50 (4544) to Fulda is following you and while you are stopping at the regional stops on the middle track after Hanau, it overtakes you on the right track. You meet the RE 50 again, waiting at a red in Langenselbold, where you are both overtaken by an ICE. You leave before the RE 50, but finally have to wait at a red in Niedermittlau to let it go in front of you. Some more yellows follow as you are behind the RE now.

    Be careful with the PZB speed limits after stopping at the stations near the red signals. I set the date in October.

    I'm going to do RE 50 (4544) next for the other perspective.
     
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    Calling all freight and PZB enthusiasts!

    S-Bahn Vorarlberg: 44115 Bludenz to Wolfurt, Part 1 and 2

    This is easily the most fun I've had in TSW in a while. I ran it in summer with the BR 185.

    You start off with a bit of a wait to let a local stopping service pass you, which you get to follow all the way to your destination. Expect a lot of adverse signals as you catch up to it with its busy stopping pattern. You then get to reverse back onto a siding, which is kind of rare in timetable mode to couple up to another rake of wagons to pull in part 2. You can elect to return to free roam and wait for part 2 or start it from the menu. I opted for the latter. Part 2 starts off the same as Part 1, with a bit for a wait at a red to let an S-Bahn service pass you which you follow all the way to the end. This leg is longer, and the stopping pattern of the train ahead is just as busy as the previous one. There are a couple of challenging hill starts that you have to perform if you get too close.
     
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    As of now, both of these runs are unchanged:
    ICE 1193 with the Expert Cab Car and IC 1279 with the Expert 101.
     
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    A challenging and enjoyable freight run:
    DCZ - 85301 Zwickau-Berlin (Vectron)

    You're tugging a 1,172 ton, 45-car, 770m autorack consist down the Rampe with a single engine. As was once said to Casey Jones, "watch your speed - trouble ahead."

    Your vmax should be 80, but in all events, stay 20 kph below the posted limit and use PZB U. You'll need to carefully apply the train brake on the Rampe to avoid speeding. Be careful to avoid an SPAD at the Dresden yard.

    For an additional challenge, use older traction and worsen the weather.
     
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    This a very good DB BR 411 ICE T run on FFA:
    ICE (1554) Dresden Hbf to Saarbrücken Hbf at 19:42
    Run it in June for a sunset. I think there is a phantom 1000 hz magnet that can be active just after km 63.0. If you run HUDless, you might want to have the HUD on here.

    There is plenty of AI, with a lot of freight action after Fulda including one waiting in the hole for you. Closer to Frankfurt, the passenger AI is impressive, reminiscent of BML type traffic. There is also some PZB action as you . . .
    nip at the heels of a regional ECS run that you periodically catch due to the GNT speed limits. That ECS service is itself a good run; RE 51 15568 mentioned above.
     
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    Can confirm that one is great. I used the "quick play" when I wasn't sure what to drive and got that service at sundown 17:00 ish with a 112. As I reached dresden the sun went down but wow that wasn't your simple just go and get there.

    Looks like I found the screenshots: 20240118201626_1.jpg 20240118204037_1.jpg 20240118205134_1.jpg 20240118212245_1.jpg
     
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    I also really enjoyed this. It was a like a North American diesel challenge on steep grades. I had to blend E brake and air brake to control my speed. I used the Expert 101 and the Freight Calculator by noir here:
    PC - Universal Freight Calculator For German Content | Dovetail Games Forums

    My Zug data came out to 4 8 74 08. Very challenging run.
     
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    Enjoyed this one. Love the business of this route.

    Glad you mentioned the RE51 as it causes you quite a long wait outside Frankfurt. Unless you study the 2D map at that point carefully you could mistake it for the dispatcher creating a broken path and being tempted to delete the AI RE51 to let you through. But in the end it does move once another train has pulled out after a crossover in front of it. This caused me to be a few minutes late.
     
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    A nice run on BSR with the 101 Expert Cab Car:
    EC (114) Klagenfurt to Dortmund - Wörthersee at 11:49.
    It is enjoyable managing speed in the Cab Car up and down the grades of BSR.
    . . . you catch up to a couple of freights, one of which is waiting at the platform as you arrive and then pulls out shortly afterwards.

    Edit: Spreadsheets are now up to date.
     
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    Arrived 9 minutes early, with 11 minutes until due to depart! And that was with gentle acceleration - out of DON - and early braking into GRA. Got a green signal ahead so fighting temptation to leave early. Passengers wouldn’t be so happy if they got left behind, though the loading indicator shows full.
     
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    a first WCML Preston-Carlisle: the scenario 'Southbound Liner'
    Its a long(2hr30) Freight Manifest run with the class 87 with a lot of AI and going into sidings to clear the tracks for express (and less express) services.
    I ran it at 60 mph (at least i think that's the right speed, but i'm no expert (no headcode))
     
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  49. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    You can see the headcode on the live map, that should tell you.
     
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  50. lcyrrjp

    lcyrrjp Well-Known Member

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    Normally 75mph for a freightliner.
     
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