PC Wcmls Enhancement Pack | Update 10 Now Available

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  1. danielwyatt60163

    danielwyatt60163 Active Member

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    Sadly, had to go back to square one with the 350, my error of not importing the model properly in the first place messed the bones up...

    Thanks to the kind help of moofers#8902 and SprattyHeath , we have a result of working animations with at least one side of the leading bogie being imported! Result. Will spend the next few days working back up to what we had, but really pleased with that issue being fixed :)
     
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  2. JetWash

    JetWash Well-Known Member

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    Yes, apart from it killing fps in the game after you’ve looked at it and zoomed in. Hopefully they can fix that.

    Morning. Would you mind trying 2D58 for me, the prior service to 2D60? I can’t reproduce the crash but am wondering if it’s tied to the following…

    Sharon E We think we know what the problem is but it might not be fixable. It’s an issue with the way TSW uses TimeTable’s so we’ll have to try and find a workaround, if that’s possible. They work fine as AI though. If we can’t figure out a way to fix it I or Fawx will post a longer explanation of why. Frustratingly it only seems to happen with certain player services too.
     
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  3. Agent Qracle RUS

    Agent Qracle RUS Well-Known Member

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    The schedule is just amazing - constantly something is going somewhere, flying, moving! It's only frustrating that there are no freight trains... JetWash, how soon will there be an update with freight trains?)
     
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  4. AvfcWalpole7

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    I am super jealous. There is no hope for us stuck on console.
     
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  5. ididntdoit

    ididntdoit Well-Known Member

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    Why can't you mod consoles anymore, have ms an Sony closed that loophole?
     
  6. Sharon E

    Sharon E Well-Known Member

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    Well, the down and dirty fix in game is to remove the offending service's path and train. Once that is done things are back to normal, almost. Problem then arises that this kills the interface to CobraOne's control of Rail Driver and I do not think that is on you or your mods. This is the first time I have removed a service since installing it so need to do it on another route to tell. I have a possible work around for this but it involves the save function which is its own "can of worms".
     
  7. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    That's just the Middlesex Skydiving Enthusiasts' monthly get-together
     
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  8. Es4t

    Es4t Well-Known Member

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    Anymore? They have always been a ‘closed’ system afaik
     
  9. ididntdoit

    ididntdoit Well-Known Member

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    My cousin had gta5 modded on he's xbox some time ago. Used to do it with the pc somehow.
     
  10. JetWash

    JetWash Well-Known Member

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    If that’s the case he must have hacked and altered the way the console operates which likely violated the terms of every warranty / user agreement he had. Fact is consoles cannot be modded by design, and this or any other mod will never be able to work on them.

    To be blunt, that’s not DTG’s fault or anyone else’s, nor is it really Sony or Microsoft’s. It’s very clear what you get with a console, a one stop simple gaming machine. If you want to mod or use mods you need a PC and nothing will change that.
     
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  11. PseudoStalker

    PseudoStalker Well-Known Member

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    Consoles can support mods, but it's need to be done by game devs via implementing ingame online mod manager(like in BG3 or Snowrunner).
     
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  12. ididntdoit

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    I'm not trying to pass the blame here lol.
    I know he used to put the drive from the xbox in the pc and modify the files. Don't ask me how, when I tried once, my pc would even recognise the xbox file system!
    Is mod.io just a pc thing or can that be used on console? It would be nice if the console community could have mods.
    You guys have done some pretty amazing stuff for tsw. I play many different games and some of the mods for them are amazing also.
     
  13. KTL_Rob Powell

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    Some games have mods available on consoles, but I believe they are curated and validated by the company that created the game (Giants Farm Simulator is a good example of this).

    I do not know how that works though or if it would even be feasible/viable for it to be possible with TSW
     
  14. Fawx

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    A few weeks. They are next on the list after all the LU stock I'm currently working through though.
     
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  15. zappatime

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    Hi JetWash , all these services were run using the 4-car 710 with TPWS/AWS and Vigilance/DSD on, Oct 25th/dynamic weather/clear
    2D50 - 05:36 - ok
    2D50 - 05:38 - ok
    2D51 - 05:58 - ok
    2D52 - 06:13 - ok
    2D55 - 06:56 - ok
    2D58 - 07:43 - ok
    2D59 - 07:56 - ok
    2D60 - 08:13 - ok - was showing as a completed timetable run so maybe I quoted wrong service before as crashing, my apologises for that
    2D63 - 08:56 - ok
    2D92 - 16:12 - ok
    2D95 - 16:55 - crashes at aws ramp just before South Hampstead
    2D98 - 17:42 - crashes at aws ramp just before South Hampstead
    2D99 - 17:55 - crashes at aws ramp just before South Hampstead
    2D50 - 18:12 - crashes at aws ramp just before South Hampstead
    2D51 - 18:25 - crashes at aws ramp just before South Hampstead —- (5-car)
    2D53 - 18:58 - crashes at aws ramp just before South Hampstead
    2D56 - 19:43 - crashes at aws ramp just before South Hampstead
    2D57 - 19:58 - crashes at aws ramp just before South Hampstead
    2D58 - 20:13 - crashes at aws ramp just before South Hampstead
    2D61 - 20:58 - crashes at aws ramp just before South Hampstead
    2D69 - 22:55 - crashes at aws ramp just before South Hampstead
    2D72 - 23:43 - ok
    2D73 - 23:56 - ok

    I thought at first it might be that when its dark that these services crashed, but the early morning services in darkness were ok it seems
    (Probably not mod related, but the 710 can be driven without keying-in)
     
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  16. Redbus

    Redbus Well-Known Member

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    Realistically, DTG will likely never add mod support to consoles, it would be a nightmare for their support team to deal with on top of everything else. If you really want mods, you're ready to move to PC gaming.
     
  17. Sharon E

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    As far as the 710 evening up runs crashing at that AWS magnet, I seem to recall this happening prior to the mod coming out.
     
  18. zappatime

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    I did wonder, though couldnt recall having any crashes prior to the EP, but I may have only run a 710 service that didnt crash.
     
  19. JetWash

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    Evening. An update to the EP has gone out now with the following changes;

    • Adjusted sound cues so station announcements now play correctly
    • Removed numerous dioramas and fixed one so that it now animates better
    • Fixed some graffiti that wasn’t displaying correctly and added a fair bit extra, particularly around the southern end of the route
    • Added real world billboard to the generic one that was missed at Bletchley
    • Added extra clutter to the northbound DC line platform at Wembley Central as the scenery was very bare and added foliage and trees to a very bare area in a car park about 200m past the station
    • Added some more variety to the posters/billboards to prevent duplication
    • 377/7 - additional new interior decals and swapped to full destination names for PIS
     
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  20. SprattyHeath

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    We don't know exactly when freight is going to be implemented as we're waiting for the new Cargo Line pack from Skyhook to be released first.

    It will probably not be for a while.
     
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  21. JetWash

    JetWash Well-Known Member

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    Can you remove entirely the announcement mod (not just the pak) then DL the latest version and try again. That’s the only thing it can be
     
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  22. thediamonder

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    Couldn't the timetable be created and then the formations be swapped out afterwards?
     
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    All in good time :)

    Sharon E and everyone really - Fawx implemented the workaround idea to the TT for the 710 services that are jamming up and initial testing suggests it works.
     
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  24. zappatime

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    I already had removed all the anouncer mod’s files, but I’ll check again and dl the update too.
     
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    Just to double double check, you removed everything, not just the pak file?

    I did and have the latest version and can’t recreate the crash. Some of the others have had similar crashes to you
     
  26. Wivenswold

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    Love this mod and all I've done is stood at Watford Junction watching trains.
     
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  27. zappatime

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    Yeah, fairly certain I did a side by side removal of all the files the announcer mod contains, but I’ll check it all through again later to make sure.
     
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  28. Sharon E

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    I do not have any announcement mod installed and will run one of these 710 services now to check.
     
  29. JetWash

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    Thanks, and thanks for the detailed breakdown. The fact that it’s crashing where it is suggests it’s only one thing causing it, but it’s weird it isn’t happening on every service. It’s frustrating also that I can’t recreate the crash
     
  30. Sharon E

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    Just ran 2D98 and it crashes at the AWS magnet just before the platform, the one for the signal at the other end of that platform. As I noted above, I really think it was doing this before your mod.
     
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  31. zappatime

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    Yeah very odd bug, there must be something about the crashing services that differs from the rest, but it seems to be that aws ramp that triggers it, I havent tried any of those services with the tcws/aws turned OFF to see if it still crashes
     
  32. Sharon E

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    JetWash, I just did a search of my posts and this issue does predate your mod. I tested it back in September and confirmed it happening at the same location it is happening now.
     
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    JetWash Well-Known Member

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    Sharon E zappatime

    Can I ask one last thing. Could you try removing all mods other than the ones for this EP, the ones recommended for this EP and GodMode (the ini’s are fine) and see if it still happens. I suspect it might be another mod causing it, it’s the only explanation for why I can’t recreate it.
     
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    OK, will do
     
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    Most likely a jail broken Xbox then…
     
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    That's not really worth it as Fawx will just have to do all the work regardless.
     
  37. Sharon E

    Sharon E Well-Known Member

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    JetWash, it is not mod related I, after much checking removed everything but what is related to DTG and your mod and the service still crashes at that location. Just to make you sure, here is a screen grab of my dlc folder. bandicam 2024-10-25 13-54-48-187.jpg
     
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  38. JetWash

    JetWash Well-Known Member

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    Why is your TT named like that? I’m assuming a duplicate download…

    Also, have you done a file verify in steam. Even though my game is working I just did one and got a 330mb download. It’s possible something is corrupted.
     
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    JetWash, did the file verification and it did dl a 30k file. When I ran the service I have been using for the test, it still crashed at the same spot.
     
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    Understood. Why’s your TT got that name, any idea?
     
  41. Sharon E

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    JetWash, really don't have any idea on why it is showing as a backup. It may have happened when I moved things into that Mod Hold folder earlier.
     
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    That 30k file is probably the game’s default ‘pie dll’ that CobraOne’s interface replaces, which I think you said you use.
     
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    Anyone else have an issue with a ground signal coming out of Wembley InterCity Depot? It shows a clear aspect (two white lights) but trips the TPWS, also it appears to be the only signal in the area without an identification number.

    I tried it on a couple of different TT's with no change in behaviour but the images below relate to 5G26

    It starts off at danger, but when you approach the semaphore signal and it clears the ground signal clears as well (according to the map). Once you've triggered it, reset the TPWS and then moved clear of the GS and grid only then it reverts back to Danger (two red lights).

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    Appreciate the heads up, but this is the wrong thread. As the modders have said repeatedly, they did not touch the signals, and all signaling issues derive from DTG's base route.
     
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    First time today with WCML EP What an incredible job you have all done. The route is transformed not only by the attention to detail that has been lavished on the scenery, but also the work and planning of the Timetable. No matter what time of day the service runs everything looks stunning.

    I had a couple of issues with one of the 710 morning services with 5 cars. The unit spawned, then jumped forward 4 or 5 meters. Sorry I will try to replicate event again to provide the service code, but it will not be until Tuesday. The other issue with the same service was that there were no passengers at the stations. I thought that I had seen something about editing the .ini file passenger settings but I cannot find the post.
     
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  46. knuckleshed

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    Hmm fair enough, sure I'd done a run through there before the EP and I didn't get EBA'd, maybe I'd forgotten to turn TPWS on that time, idk.
     
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    Yeah any signal/aws/tpws issues are base route. Not something we can change. I'd post them in the route feedback, or support ticket them.
     
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    Sharon E
    I always delete the copy parts of a mod name in the dlc directory (namemod (*).pak so remove (*) plus the space before the (
    so just make sure to keep it as they are on the mod site
     
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    Hello i'm new here any tips you can give me on the forums ?
     
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    Just for reference and to save anyone else reporting it here, the "fix" is to just not enable TPWS until you've passed this ground signal, I tried the temporary isolation but that didn't seem to work for me.
     
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