Can Not Be Played More 5 Minutes

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  1. rat7_mobile

    rat7_mobile Well-Known Member

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    I can no longer play TSW5 for more than 5 minutes, it literally blows the breakers for my whole apartment and this only happens when playing TSW5

    This is happening since the first patch, before the patch it was working well, but not anymore

    This too bad I I liked playing the game
     
  2. Thorgred

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    that is a first i heard something like that

    found this on google search
    Why Your PC Might Be Tripping the Circuit Breaker. Overloaded Circuit: If you have too many devices plugged into the same circuit as your PC, it can overload the circuit, causing the breaker to trip. Solution: Try unplugging some devices or moving your PC to a different circuit
     
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    I have less device in this new apartment plug to the same circuit, and still TWS5 make the breakers blow.

    And like I said, I play other games, like X-Plane 11 and nothing happens, and with TWS5 it started happening after the first patch for TSW5
     
  4. Spikee1975

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    Lol.

    How many Ampère does the fuse have?

    And most other games are highly optimized, TSW uses way too much energy for what it's doing, and the scenery is not that complex compared to other games..
     
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    it is a standard 15Amp, and the building is brand new
     
  6. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    So, I have to ask, are you 100% certain TSW5 is the problem?

    Because I find it hard to believe that one game causes all fuses to cut out.
     
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    Every time I get TSW5 to run about 5min later the breaker blows, and only when I play TSW5
     
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    What is the voltage in your country 120 or 230 ?
     
  9. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    Not actually accusing you of anything here, but I am sure I would not be the only one on here who has noticed your ability to provide things which just aren't true, or highly modified/decontextualised to make DTG look bad for things.

    So yes I do agree that TSW5 does need to be more optimised, but I find what you say about it is causing fuses to blow very unlikely and it is more likely to be a more 'normal' cause for the fuse blowing.
     
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    rat7_mobile Well-Known Member

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    Believe whatever you want but the breakers are blowing when I play TSW5

    If you do not believe it then co0me here test it, and stop calling me a liar
     
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    Same goes for you. I'll be honest and say that I don't disbelieve that TSW5 needs to be optimised (as I say I strongly agree with this opinion), nor do I disbelieve that a fuse has blown in your house, however the fact the two are linked is where I am in doubt. To be clear, I haven't called you a liar either, just pointed out a trend I have noticed in previous interactions with you and then stating that I doubt that the cause of the fuses blowing is what you believe it to be.
     
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    I find it hard to believe that any modern powerful rig even running at max power will blow the fuse of a home our. I mean i can play TSW5 for hour on ultra with Jetwash high preset on a Ryzen 5700x3d/ AMD 6700XT, that should result in maybe 450W max power consumption while also using a 1100W heater at the same time and nothing happens. Now since my fuse do not get blown at around 1500W usage and even triple of that if i use more power hungry appliances, i find it very hard to believe that a PC running a game would do that. Even if you would have a config with 4X Nvidia 4080 all running all at full power in some obscene resolution i believe a fuse would trip in your PSU if something is wrong long before the ones in the house do. :)
    Also it might be that due to something wrong in your wires as the load increases a short occurs and that triggers the fuses. In that case you might have some serious issues in the wiring.
     
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    Well then explain why everytime I play with TSW5, the breaker blows, and it does that only when it is TSW5

    I am not talking about optimisation, in fact X-Plane 11 requires more CPU and GPU than TSW, and the breakers do not blows

    PS. you choice of word in your previous message, is exactly calling me a liar
     
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    Perhaps an electrician would be a better bet to explain it as I still highly doubt TSW5 being the root cause and would say it is the electrics themselves.

    So what is your point with this thread, surely there must be something more than blaming TSW5 for blowing a fuse? Saying that, it is the weekend, so not out of the question!

    No, exactly calling you a liar would be using the word liar, which I have skirted around very well I believe. I am sure if you feel a passion about continuing this part of the conversation we could do so privately, otherwise I think it is probably best to leave this one here, for the benefit of the thread, and those reading it. Instead of thinking of a reply find the time getting a quality electrician in. :)
     
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    Your idea about the electrician, is good, however since it is an apartment and not a house I can not just call an electrician
     
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    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    Fair dos, I would highly recommend calling whoever can get an electrician out then - Landlord?
     
  17. Spikee1975

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    Generate the power for your PC yourself

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    iriv#7314 Well-Known Member

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    If you have a wife/husband/children, what are they doing while you play tsw?
    pc's on its own don't use that much amps
    I'm measuring myself and it's only 150W max, which is 0,5A-ish
    I've never heard of a computer blowing fuses unless it has some grounding issue
     
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    Wife's hoovering?
     
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    Well, here in belgium they lowered the max watts a vaccuum cleaner can use for health(sound) reasons :D
     
  23. Spikee1975

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    Yes, that was decided in Brussels and affects the whole EU. Got myself a Siemens 2,500 W vac a week before the law became active. People were storming the stores :cool:

    I'm too lazy to check right now but I'm sure a 15A fuse is a bit too weak. OP could calculate if it's enough for him, depending on what else draws power. For a modern gaming PC running TSW I'd guess it would draw 4 Amperes alone under full load. (My example, BeQuiet 850W / 220V = 3.8 A)

    Then add non-LED lightbulbs in various lamps, 400 mA per lamp, TV running, and you'll get close to 15A.
     
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    OK, 2nd question: what else is switched on when you play TSW5?
     
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    You may want to look into getting a new house then if the current cannot support TSW gameplay.

    Some alternative solutions:

    Do not play TSW on Supercomputers, they are solely intended for industrial purposes and may not be able to be used correctly domestically.

    Replace your breaker box may be viable solution. There are plenty of 5 minute craft videos to guide you.

    Do not replace your electricity with Unknown Ancient, Eldritch or Demonic Powers. As currently there are no regulations towards these power sources.

    Play TSW on battery saver mode, this may reduce TSW's usage on your computer.

    Do not feed your computer any energy drinks I.e redbull, monster, Rockstar to obtain a performance boost.

    Contact an electrician, yes.
     
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    Your pc will only pull a max of 5Amp. If your not running on a 15A circuit then you should consider doing so. Something else is causing this not a Steam downloaded game (unless you have chained your sound system or other peripherals to your pc).
     
  27. Spikee1975

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    Or too much electrical consumers plugged into one socket (we have 16A max per socket in Germany). Distribute them.
     
  28. Calidore266

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    I can't wait to see what DTG is blamed for next.
     
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    At some point someone is going to claim DTG cost them the wife, kids and is now homeless because they became so obsessed with either loving the the dam thing or ranting and hating it, it's coming I swear, the venom in the angry rants are becoming pure comedy rib tickling gold.......
     
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  30. jack#9468

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    A bit of an oxymoron.
     
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  31. Spikee1975

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    You need one of these:

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    I would try replacing the power supply in the computer. It is not normal for a computer to blow fuses.
     
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    Go back to TSW4 :cool:
     
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    The PC components themselves would be more likely to burn out and in the event of an overload, the fuse in the plug would blow first before the ring main which is probably rated at a much higher amperage. So as much as there is wrong with TSW5, don’t really think it can be blamed for wrecking the domestic power supply. Certainly nothing I have experienced - in fact the last time I had to change a fuse in the main box was when I shorted out the lighting circuit taking a bathroom cabinet off the wall (luckily not with the current going through me).
     
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    If the electrical source in the computer is still under warranty, I would definitely claim it. TSW 5 is poorly debugged software, but the source in the computer should not short-circuit the fuse in the apartment.
     
  36. RobertSchulz

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    I wondered about whether your PC or part of it might be malfunctional and this happens when a certain kind of CPU/GPU load is exceeded. However, that you can play games which require more CPU or GPU load kind of eliminates your computer or a part of it as the source of the problem, let alone Train Sim World.

    I would investigate the connection between PC and wall socket, since you probably use a plug tower or plug strip in between to feed the PC and monitor at least. Maybe the overload on this part is causing the problem as it has no protection for short curcits or overcharging. Try to replace that.

    Also take out all other devices off the circuit. Only test with your PC and monitor.

    Try to think about what happened at the time the first patch came out. It's high likely coincidential to the patch due to a change in your environment or a fail of a certain element at this moment in time, what might be causing this.

    There should be a person or company responsible to maintain the house. Contact them and tell about the issue that a PC is causing breakers to blow.

    You always can call an electrician and the house owner/maintainer should let them pass, at least if its an urgent issue (which is not sure at the moment).

    The only problem is to find out who is paying the bill thereafter, but nothing else. However if the fault is on the electrical system of the house or its dependencies, the house owner should be charged, not you.
     
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    Also OP states living in an apartment, might be worth checking with the landlord or building owner what the ring main is rated at. If putting the PC on really does blow out the breakers then it is rated too low. It’s certainly disingenuous to come on a game forum and try to blame the developers for what is either faulty equipment or sub standard wiring.
     
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    With all due respect I think there is more going on that is causing that to happen because I certainly don't think a game can cause such problems
     
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    A run through his post history kinda confirms he likes to blame DTG for stuff that clearly isn't their fault, or deliberately misunderstand things. Best to ignore him.
     
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    Maybe aliens?
     
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    So, what happens when you make toast or microwave something or iron a shirt, all of which use far more power than a PC and monitor. Can you even watch TV?
     
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    If the power settings was incorrect the pc would be unusable. The fact that a specific program is called out (TSW) suggests that this is a case of 'conspiracy theory' being generated by a disgruntled customer.
     
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    I would strongly advise that you stop using whatever equipment is causing the breaker to pop, regardless of whatever software might be running on it, and get professional advice from an electrician. It is impossible for software to cause electrical issues themselves, they can only influence hardware that already has electrical issues in ways that make those issues manifest.

    Stop focusing on TSW being the issue, because it literally can't be, and start worrying about your electrics and your computer hardware.

    You should never just reset a fuse that's popped without clearly understanding the cause of it and rectifying it.

    You are at risk of fire if you continue with an electrical system that clearly has a fault somewhere within, please take this seriously and get it looked at urgently.

    (Edited to note: I am NOT a qualified electrician and you should urgently seek the advice of one in order to get the most accurate picture)

    Matt.
     
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    Good advice listen to the man
     
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    The best solution is to call in a electrician. They can check the circuits and breakers to see if they are working correctly.
     
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    What's become to proactive creativity.? upload_2024-11-2_15-7-35.jpeg There, simple really! :cool:
     
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    Perhaps your patch has been infected with a malevolent anomaly / SCP?
     
  48. DTG Matt

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    It's funny if you know it's a joke, but there are too many people out there might think this is a genuine hack and burn their house down. :)
     
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    When working on old pinball machines, we would occasionally see "fuses" people had made of rolled-up tinfoil rather than simply buying a new fuse. :o
     
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    Well, I thought about it before posting. But then I figured it's an apartment building. So the neighbors will dial 911. ;)

    (Ah C'mon, this whole thread is a joke ...)
     
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