Both. The DTG 87 is OK if you don't have anything else but it is Poor compared with the later AP version I did say that in the two posts you quoted.
Well, many of us are still waiting for a BR Blue Class 26, for the plethora of Scottish routes, both freeware and Payware, that we've accumulated since Kuju days of 2007, the only main line British diesel locomotive we haven't got, and still nobody wants to create one, after all this time, I'd hardly call it a niche product.
That's not quite true - somebody did indeed create one (Iron Horse House). Like so many Train Simulator products it is no longer available - you really have to grab things while you can. John
Given that IHH has been effectively unpersoned by both the community and dtg, one could argue that actually nobody did make one.
Unpersoned? DTG bought the IHH catalogue which served as a base for many DTG locos later on. Most of them were simply on "Kuju SD40-2" standard. Of course it would be nice if they could release those other IHH locos, as a base for retexturing and fitting them with proper lights and scripts. But they gave a definite No, not possible. Can't have everything. I'm more disappointed with the unavailability of the VP Class 55. One of Britain's most iconic and "Art-Déco" style Diesels, the Deltic is sorely missing and the old Kuju 55 hasn't aged well. Though the RSC Deltic Prototype isn't that bad.
yes, it's a pity there isn't a British Rail equivalent of the Diesel Workshop, for quite a few UK Diesels could use a make-over to current standards.
The VP Deltic was just a spruce up of the original Railworks model. There is a slightly newer version in the BR Blue Diesel pack, that one may be based on the superior IHH model, but I'm not certain of that.
I have never seen a Class21/29 modelled anywhere for TSC. I think these locos would be a perfect fit for the West Highlands lines.
Occasionally triple headed - perhaps to make sure that between them the train got through, hopefully a TSC model would be more reliable. Went to Kittybrewster shed (61A) in 1966 and half the class were dumped there out of service.
I also have pictures in an old Bradford Barton book of 26’s triple heading a heavy overnight sleeper train out of Inverness.
... which was done by Reppo. Excellent model. His style is instantly recognisable, the smooth high-poly edges and well baked textures. (for reference, this quote was about the Class 142)
Absolutely. Was listening to that as a kid over and over again while playing with Lego. Didn't understand the lyrics back then, only "Waiting For Your Taxi"... Awesome musicianship, songwriting and very clean, spatial production. So much going on there. And the old geezer's witty lyrics. Back on topic. November sale getting closer. Will stock up on VictoryWorks then. Some stuff still left (which Not.Silent is using in many of his scenarios....)
Isn't that the class 22 that IHH made ? Looking very similar to the class 21/29. All were made by the North British locomotive Company using the same body shell.
Deep Purple's "Made in Japan" album, a benchmark album in its genre, an eye opener for me to the genre of hard rock while in high school. Actually, my very first LP album bought with the money from my newspaper rounds. Played until the groove wore out, now on golden CD in my collection.
That 26 does not look too bad but the whatever looks awful - If its a 29 the Headcode panel is too high - the 22's has split box headcode panels
Anyhow back on topic... Did someone say Victory Works? K1 is probably the favourite of the fleet that I own though still have a few gaps to fill. Though really I need to clone these Weardale scenarios and put some Matrix coaches behind the loco!
That is the IHH Class 21/22/29 depending on what they called it but some features are right for one and wrong for the other
The loco numbering of 6304 puts it down as a class 22. There is mention within these forums that IHH did make a class 22 and is part of the back catalogue that DTG purchased. It would be interesting if John (70045) could tell us why he doesn't think its an IHH model.
But he didn't...he said it's not the in response to your question about his original screen shot. To (hopefully) clarify 29s on the left....22s on the right, two separate models.
I didn't say anywhere that any of the locos I illustrated are not IHH models - you are putting words into my mouth. You suggested the Class 29 loco in my first illustration was actually a Class 22 claiming they were identical to the 29s. I demonstrated otherwise by showing you a picture of the 22s which are quite clearly different. John
Sorry John, I must have misinterpreted your one word answer of "no". I am aware there are differences between the class 22 and 29, but in my eyes, if you take away the head code boxes, discs and lights the basic body shape does bare a resemblance to each other ( I never said identical ). Also bare in mind I knew IHH had made a 22, but have never seen an example of a 29 in TSC, so genuinely thought it was a 22. My mistake. Keith
To return to the off-topic topic of never produced mainline BR diesels, I don't think anyone has ever made a TOPS class 23 'Baby Deltic'.
I don't think anyone has, unless IHH had one squirreled away somewhere. The only problem I see is that only 10 were made, and has previously been mentioned it would be a niche locomotive so would have limited appeal. I for one would buy it in an instant, and I suspect so would a lot of other people. Keith
The model Railway world seems to like niche locos https://www.hattons.co.uk/directory/vehicledetails/1488260/class_23_baby_deltic
