Seebergbahn Remastered

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  1. Doomotron

    Doomotron Well-Known Member

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    Seebergbahn was one of three fictional routes introduced in RailWorks. If you haven't played it yet (it's available on the Steam Workshop for free), it was a 20 (?) mile route formed of two lines going from a main hub called Seeberg. It had freight yards and lots of passenger stations. Being an old route, it is comparatively terrible, but old assets and dodgy signalling can't hold this route back. One of the lines goes along a coast, with one side having a huge lake, and the other having large mountains. On the other line (which you need to reverse at Seeberg to get on to), you go up and down through a mountain range with some pretty steep slopes and one or two 180 degree corners. It's a very enjoyable route to drive on.

    The route for some reason (along with the other two) was retired from Steam, meaning the E18 and possibly other DLCs that use it don't work. Anyway, I think that the concept of this German route (although I think it was actually based on a line in Switzerland, but with German names) needs to come back, so I suggest remaking the route to modern standards with newer trains (a Talent multiple unit, a TRAXX loco, and a shunter of some sort, perhaps?) and proper signalling. I've actually been tempted to do this myself, to be honest.

    Had downvotes remained active, I wonder how many I'd get for this...
     
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    But the E18 does work and you can find scenarios for that loco on RailSim.de
     
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    Doomotron Well-Known Member

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    I don't think you understand what I am saying. The scenarios for Seebergbahn included with the E18 do not work for most users as they do not own the original route.
     
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    I understand that.
    When people buy an add-on some people will buy it because they want to run the Three Scenarios that come with it and others buy it because they want the loco/train to run on other routes - the choice is theirs and the loco works quite well away from the Seebergbahn.

    In the recent Sale I purchased a new loco and I did not own the route the Scenarios were for - but it did not stop me from buying it because I wanted it for another route
     
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    Doomotron Well-Known Member

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    I already know that mate!
     
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    In your original post you speculated the E18 would not work any more because the Seebergbahn was not available.
    I was pointing out it does still work and that scenarios are still being made for it's use
     
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    Although I don't understand what means"E18",I'm quite agree with your opinion that the Seebergbahn need a upgrade or "remastered".The route itself have obviously several places that have the potential and possibility like Dissen,Seeburg&Almsfield.If these places got extended,it might become a good routes along the countryside/suburban with Europe(except UK) style,even can competitive with SADs' route.
    But except the extension,the route itself need an enormous upgrade like the superrelevation,signal,scenery,etc.It's not a small work since the lap of technology is more than 10 years.
     
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    Well,kind of antique,I guess.It seems to be compatible with Seebergbann with some scenarios in it.
    But I think the ideal rolling stock may be MUs,whatever DMUs or EMUs because the route looks like a shape of "人"(Ren,Chinese words,means human)and MUs are easy to change direction.
     
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    Yes but the route is set a long time ago and non of the end points are terminus stations so you could have working from off the map
     
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    I think this was built on the terrain of the Interlaken area in Switzerland? I would rather have the real route in Switzerland to be honest.
    But if your hoping for the any new routes from Austria, Switzerland and Germany, you have to look to RSSLO, Simtrain, Bahnjahn, B42, Jasksoft or the freeware community on Railsim. Those are the only sources new routes will be coming from.
     
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    I know it is based on a Swiss route, so you're probably right on the first point.
     
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    First of all, if you like old rolling stock, you can take the E18 for Hagen-Siegen and Seebergbahn.
    I could play its scenarios using the workshop version. Simply had to move the scenario folders over, and it was just fine.
    (I suppose the same works with Castle Rock and the UK one.)

    There is at least one remaster on the workshop, using assets from similar, more modern routes.
    Besides stock from those, I agree about short MUs. I also used push-pull stock like the 146-DoSto from Köln-Koblenz.

    That all said, at this point I would recommend to postpone, maybe skip it, unless you are a historian.

    ps.: Did these forums change a bit? For a couple weeks now it keeps deleting line breaks (empty lines).
     

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