Just Trains Making Wcml Over Shap And Br Class 87

Doors weren't electronically locked were they? So they'd just need to be closed, if passengers hadn't closed them after themselves.
But I assume some form of ficticious panel or key command would do thay for us

 

I imagine the doors will open automatically when the train comes to a stand, but I hope we have to close the doors as that's a memory of mine I cherish, the guard running up and down to close the doors.

 

Excellent, the variety of 47s will be great to see on the route. In actual fact the variety everywhere will be great to see. I must admit there is a niggle in the back of my mind about performance, though this is dampened by BPO's variety and silky smooth performance.

Not picking on you mate at all, but this does make me chuckle as it does remind me of the last few years of the HSTs as there were a concerning number of people (clearly younger and/or not regulars on the railway and/or from down south) who would wait for the doors to be opened or try and find the button to open the doors.

 

Sweet Baby Jesus, those 47s look beyond amazing! If JT ever give the 37 this level of treatment in a future route, I will be ecstatic!

 

Good to see the 101 has had some blue claggy eye watering, headache inducing exhaust effects added. Maybe the 47 needs some major clag effects when opening up. The 31 and 20 would benefit from a JT makeover, as the exhaust on those is more like a vape. Although the 20 has enough clag, it looks a bit odd. Extra clag on the 142 would also add to the PACER HELLFIRE!!! .

 

On more than one occasion I'd be waiting to disembark from at HST at Leicester and people would be standing inside the vestibule just waiting for the door to open lol

 

Freightliner trains didn't have specific locos in the period set. BR used Electrics on them often in pairs as needed.

 

Even the overhauled Class 101 is making me drool. Wonder if this will double sub the 101’s on WCL?

 

I mean the privatised Freightliner, since they mentioned the containers being licensed.

 

I wonder if the timetable will change to allow the closing of al the doors and maybe if JT want to add a unique detail they could have it that not all the doors open due to no one entering or exiting a specific coach or side of a coach.

 

The Expert BR 101 has that feature where not all doors open due to passenger movements, so we know it's possible...

 

So sick of that Class 101, this'll make 5 copies of the exact same train with absolutely no significant differences between them.

 

Your list of significant differences with the new version

• Full Pneumatic simulation for gears, throttle and final drives as well as other revisions to vacuum brake system to bring it closer to reality
• • Some new audio including new vacuum brake sounds
• • Deadman’s system implemented
• • Interior texture improvements
• • Minor exterior texture changes
• • Roller blinds appropriate for the Preston-Carlisle route (included Blackpool N/S)
• • Guard to driver buzzer on departure • Guard mode
• • AWS Change end and Isolation implemented (Previously used one lever instead of two)
• • New exhaust effects

 

You'd rather have them not include a DMU for regional services?

 

It also has the refurbished interior with strip lighting. Hopefully a few engine sound tweaks too, give more of that classic AEC engine whine. In an ideal world, we would have got a Class 108 as these were more prevalent on North Lancs and Cumbrian local services but I’ll take the Class 101 far more readily than when the Class 66 gets regurgitated on modern routes.

 

It's essentially a rebuild of the 101, would you rather they didn't include it?

 

Excited for this route and the layers especially

 

1997 onwards for that and these containers were not seen after the 90s except lurking in yards on the ground being used as stores.

 

Probably time for another 1st Gen unit, the 104 could work if its still being made?

 

I think JT are missing a trick here, a mk1 GUV model would be a HUGE addition for TSW5 on parcels trains, they were far more common than mk1 BGs, they could even include a pre nationalisation vehicle or two for some variety! The 101 upgrades look fantastic, the deadmans is integral with the power handle so that should be entertaining, although I agree with the observation that the brakes are a bit off, and am interested to see what they feel like. I'd like the here the missing sounds, such as the gears engaging before you apply power, and I would really like to hear some DA chatter on vacuum braked stock, but I don't think we'll be that lucky. I would like the ability to do a correct cold start procedure from the hand throttles and playing hunt the BIS in the dark but then I am a bit weird. Now, if they added smog mode from the heaters starting that'd be brilliant!

 

The model is the same inaccurate one though. Really we need a brand new Class 37, 101 and Electrostar. The 47 model looks off as well.

 

There is a lot of Rolling stock missing, to be fair to JT it would be beyond them to produce it all for this DLC. Long gone are the TSC days when we got Day time Mk3 stock and Sleepers, Some of the missing stock would probably be here if DTG had not ceased production of anything that wasnt EMU related.

 

The 37 is the one that baffles me, the loco with a huge following amongst older and newer enthusiasts alike and all we get is the ROG one after the TVL/WCL versions. Although maybe licensing is an issue....

 

To be clear, the Mark 3As and sleepers in WCML Over Shap in TS were not new and had already been released in WCML North and the Class 67 pack respectively. All that was done for Over Shap was a reskin job. IIRC the Mark 3As also had the GNER interior for some reason.

And of course the ROG one has awful textures, as does the 375 that it's bundled with.

The proportions of the TSW 37 model are quite off, but it still is weird that there hasn't at least been a BR Blue reskin of it.

 

The AP 37 would be good in TSW, and a green version.
Although there are some good green liveries in the creators club. Somewhere I subscribed to a EWS livery, this sometimes appears in BPO on a class 40, and I think oh I must get rid of that EWS livery, as it doesn't look great on a 40. Plus it didn't exist in the mid 80s.

 

I think DTG missed a trick with not doing the 101, 37, 45, 47 & 40 in green as add ons to their steam routes personally.

 

No one's talked about it yet I don't think but it's pretty cool that we're going to be able to walk through the 87 'engine room' (equipment room?).
I can't find the reference to it on JT website but I'm sure I didn't dream it

 

I've never actually been through the engine room in a van, I assume there might be some controls we can play with in there, even if its just isolating valves etc, this seems like a great way of changing ends without going outside - I have terrible memories of being too enthusiastic exiting a cab at Huddersfield and ending up dropping off the viaduct!
We could have some real fun at some point and introduce a 2nd man mode where your whole job is to manage the steam heat boiler in the engine room (not on the 87 BEFORE anyone says it!)

 

Apologies if I’ve missed the detail but does that mean the 101 will be included as part of the route, or still have to own one of the original DLC’s it came with?

 

With the doors and conductor mode will the doors all fly open and loading begin before the train has stopped?

What even is health and safety?

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/trainsimworld/s/728nY1oeI7

 

Found this on reddit. Can't find original upload

 

The 101 is included with the route, no need to own other DLC's for it, as stated in the Dovetail Live article:
https://live.dovetailgames.com/live...les/article/wcml-preston-carlisle-coming-soon

 

To be fair, the 101s were a mix of Leyland and AEC engines. The Class 102s were folded into the Class 101 to become one class and so you instantly got a mix of Leyland and AEC engines then, and ontop of that as spares for the AEC engines became less common the engines were generally swapped out for Leyland ones (sometimes even TL11s minus the turbo).

 

Can't say I've been through an 87, but I remember a driver at Preston showing me round an 86 one time, and the pan cylinder control was down the access corridor somewhere.

 

On Instagram I believe:

 

What’s becoming apparent to me is with all the extra rolling stock and new variations of locos (ie snow plough 47 etc, remastered 101) is that the extra £3 on the route price is absolutely a bargain. Under other devs these would be several £10 gameplay packs on top.

 

Yep nail on head.

 

I hope they don’t remove the original 101 layer from Blackpool. Don’t fancy having to pay 40€ just to get it to reappear. Setting it up so the WCML 101 substitutes 100% of the time for those who own it, but the original layer is still unlocked by the old 101, seems fair.

 

This is VERY picky, but...has anyone noticed the wipers on the Class 87 haven't been modelled accurately?

 

I love how they upgraded a lot of locos already used on other routes and made it theirs

 

Yes there is/are things to do in there.

 

There's more routes with the Class 66. Several copies of the exact same train with no significant differences between them.

Yet, you're sick of the Class 101, which only appears in the few existing BR era routes.

 

And far more fun to drive than the 66!

 

This!

It's impressive they are doing so many different nameplates too - this just gives so much variety.

 

Spot on

 

Would be great with the 101 if there was the odd chance to get a unit with a hole in the exhaust pipe(that’s previously had a bandage around it)lol

 

The class 101 has always been my favorite UK train. So the JT route would be worth getting just for that, especially as it's been enhanced.

But I still baulk at the price tag though. $50 is not a price point I want to reach for dlc in this very imperfect game.

If this were a DTG route you can be sure others would be wavering. It's only JT's perceived and expected quality that makes the price increase viable.

I'm still on the fence. Though the issues revealed with the MBTA route are giving me some doubts about an immediate purchase. My Steam wallet could veer towards WCMLN and wait for a sale on Worcester, whereas before I was thinking the opposite.

 

Not the area for it but I still want a Swindon Class 120 Cross Country with the infamous rasping exhaust on pull away!

 

This is why JT are the best at doing TSW dlc's
They really know how to create realism with the tools they're provided with.



And the connection is?