Route Geml: London Liverpool Street - Norwich

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  1. .battalion.

    .battalion. Well-Known Member

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    Route
    Route Map:
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    Player Route:
    London Liverpool Street - Norwich.

    Route Time:
    1 hour 48 minutes

    Route Length:
    97 miles (156 km)

    Stations:
    London Liverpool Street, Stratford, Romford, Shenfield, Ingatestone, Chelmsford, Hatfield Peverel, Witham, Kelvedon, Marks Tey, Colchester, Manningtree, Ipswich, Stowmarket, Diss, Norwich.

    Rolling Stock
    Player Rolling Stock:
    BR Class 745
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  2. .battalion.

    .battalion. Well-Known Member

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    Why I chose this route?
    I chose this route because.. it’s different. Although I very much doubt they’ll do the full route to Norwich, and will mostly likely end at Ipswich, it’s a route based on the Easten side of the UK. The class 745 is an entire new loco that would be a good start to bring an EXPERT loco to the UK. This will also be the longest route in TSW with a route length of 97 miles!

    How Many Stations Are There In Total?
    There are 16 stations in total.
    The major stations on this route are: Liverpool Lime Street, Stratford, Chelmsford, Ipswich and Norwich.
    You will not be stopping at all 16 stations, the stations you will be stopping will be:

    Stratford
    Colchester
    Manningtree
    Ipswich
    Stowmarket
    Diss
    Norwich

    What timeframe will this route be set in?
    2020! Since currently most of the 745 services go to Stanstead Airport, on their first runs, they went to Norwich!

    Possibilities of Loco DLC’s on this route?
    We could see a few:
    BR Class 720 Greater Anglia (London Liverpool Street - Norwich)
    BR Class 379 Greater Anglia (London Liverpool Street - Norwich) although these we replaced by the 745’s in 2020.

    Any layers on this route?
    Currently, no.. but there could be some AI services at Norwich, featuring the BR 158 East Midlands Trains!

    Any Depots?
    Yes:
    Norwich Crown Point,
    Clacton-on-Sea
    Ilford
    Colchester

    How many trains per hour (tph)?
    2 tph in both directions.
     
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  3. opark

    opark Well-Known Member

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    357s never ran on Greater Anglia unless you mean like the 379s or the 320s?
     
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  4. .battalion.

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    Possible Services
    YEAH i meant the 379’s :)
    My mistake haha.
     
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  5. opark

    opark Well-Known Member

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    Still go to Liverpool Street!
     
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  6. .battalion.

    .battalion. Well-Known Member

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    Couldn’t think of any scenarios :(
     
  7. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Presuming we get the London end, we could have something like this:

    "The fast lines are closed due to engineering works. All trains are routed via the slow lines. Can you keep to time and avoid a SPAD?"
     
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  8. .battalion.

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    See that’s a good idea but it was kinda similar to another scenario that i made for another suggestion haha. I’ll take this and credit you for it though!
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Now that I read it, it does sound a bit cheesy, but all my brain could think of :D
     
  10. joffonon#1689

    joffonon#1689 Well-Known Member

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    Would welcome this route, partly because in and of itself it'd be a great route, bit also because it would give us Stratford station. We need a busy Stratford for all the routes that could start from or run through there!
     
  11. opark

    opark Well-Known Member

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    Mhm!
     
  12. opark

    opark Well-Known Member

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    Also just saying too, no way DTG would make a route and have less than half the stations have services on them so I would think that a class 720 would come with the route aswell as you’re having much less than half the timetable out of Liverpool Street and no terminating trains at Colchester or Ipswich!
     
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  13. .battalion.

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    Yeah but to be fair, similarly to Barking, Manchester Piccadilly and Birmingham New Street, that station would be pretty much be a ghost town..
    As opark kindly said, maybe the 720 should be included in the route, at least there would be some sort of traffic alone the GEML!
     
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  14. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    The 720s are similar to the 710s that we already have. So part of the work there is already done.
     
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  15. LESpangle#8046

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    Perhaps a c2c route including the Aventra would release preceding this one, allowing it to layer into the timetable
     
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  16. .battalion.

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    100% agree. I think a c2c route should definitely be in TSW, pretty sure it’s a very popular route that’s been suggested multiple times, including myself :D
     
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  17. opark

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    c2c route would be soooo good!
     
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  18. .battalion.

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    Yep! Would be awesome to see it in-game!
     
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  19. joffonon#1689

    joffonon#1689 Well-Known Member

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    Agree completely about getting c2c into TSW, but let's not derail a GEML thread too much.

    Suffice it to say that this route needs a 720 to populate the Liverpool Street to Shenfield stretch, or if push comes to shove an unbranded 710 (just squint at it and pretend it's the right carriages and length!).
     
  20. opark

    opark Well-Known Member

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    Would need its physics redone though. Class 710 has a max speed of 75mph, and the class 720 has a max of 100mph I assume, so you wouldn’t be able to keep to the timetable if you did have to use a 710.
     
  21. joffonon#1689

    joffonon#1689 Well-Known Member

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    Depends on what the line speed is on that stretch of the route, though.
     
  22. opark

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    Well Greater Anglia class 720s go to Colchester, so I’d assume 100mph maximum speed. However, you say Liverpool Street to Shenfield, so those would be 345s which I’d assume the line speed wouldn’t exceed 75mph?
     
  23. First capital connect

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    Going with the period set by the OP wouldn't the 321s be very dominant over this stretch compared to the 720s?
     

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