Hello I am a fellow tsw player but there is one upsetting thing is that there is not many steam trains in the tsw game I have a few suggestions on what steam trains you could add like for example the A4 mallard or the E2 tank engine or like German steam trains or amerian like the big boy Kind regards Ethan
Ethan Steam is currently on hold. Issues with accuracy of simulation involving realistic operating.Coal,Water level, boiler pressure simulation . That's the short story. There's more to this, I'll leave it to more knowledgeable members. Being a recent Tsw player,I was unaware of this before buying. Maybe one day it will return. Disappointed myself, but for now, hopefully with a big uptake in player's, might change this in the future.This is speculation though. I'd recommend the Peak forest route,if you don't mind a lot of shunting.Which has a 3rd party update/dlc on the horizon. Buy the steam stuff when it's on sale,so you won't feel out of pocket. The Scotsman layers in on steam tours on many of the routes,so that's a small positive for now. There's a big list of locomotive's from around the world,a lot would like to see. The UK streamliners are a personal favourite.
I would also like to see some more steam though it would probably only come from a third party. mainly would want to see UP Big Boy UP Challenger UP FEF UP 9000 series Queensland Railways Beyer-Garratt Queensland Railways C17 Queensland BB18¼ DRB Class 52 LNER A4
I love it when people request more steam locos. As a steam enthusiast, I feel like DTG has abandoned us, and I hope this changes soon. I’ve purchased nearly every UK DLC available, but if steam development really isn’t going to continue in the near future, I’ll have to look elsewhere for another sim to spend my hard-earned money on.
I too would like DTG to reconsider steam traction but only with a complete overhaul to bring at least on par with the default we got in the original Rail Simulator in 2007. So much potential, for the UK alone (not going into route or traction specifics).
To be honest, if they're not going to fix the physics, they could at least still develop steam. Maybe if people continued buying it DTG would consider redoing the physics?
To be honest there are times when even I think this. Maybe not as awful as FS turned out, but I could take a Hall, 57xx Pannier or a BR Standard 2-6-4T at the level we got with the Jubilee or 4F. And a nice period branch or secondary line to go with them. Even just something like the Fairford or Ashburton branch, to get a nice rural backwater in there would be fantastic. Though ultimately I still long for the Somerset and Dorset through from Bath Green Park to Bournemouth West with a choice of a 24 weekday or summer Saturday timetable.
All DTG really need to do is fix the physics. There are third parties out there that would likely be enticed into making TSW content if they had a decent foundation to build off. In fact, VictoryWorks had actually started working on something before DTG announced that they'd killed off steam.
I'm relaxed about the physics and enjoy steam, owning all of the locos & routes. I get my challenge from overloaded trains and the realistic use of dampers (they're not meant to be fully open - that's easy mode afaic) I guess DTG are cherry picking the most profitable routes for their size of operation (30 devs?) - modern high speed & suburban - and have reached an agreement giving 3rd parties a clear field with historic stuff. So I'm hoping that steam will be profitable for developers with lower cost bases, who maybe only require ~10,000 sales. The good news is that TSW has grown to a size where it is no longer niche. So a small part of a larger and growing pie interested in steam should be enough.
This is what they should have done for their first steam route, rather than jump straight into the mainline stuff.
With steam if they were to redo the physics do they make it very realistic or they make it easy so that anyone can easily pick a steam train to drive without having to learn what everything does? Also how would this effect players using controllers?
It's not an either/or choice - the policy, as implemented with steam, is to make driving (relatively) easy for beginners, because knowledgeable players will know how to change the set up, to be able to drive in a more difficult, realistic, style. I entirely agree with this approach, which has been instrumental to the wider take up of the game. The issue, as I understand it, is that the complex physics are not functioning as intended - perhaps 50-60% accurate. Now that the devs involved have learned most of what they need to know, they should be able to start from scratch and develop an improved version for new locos more rapidly.
Although probably not many people played them outside Japan, I quite enjoyed the steam spin off Taito did from Densha de Go called Kisha de Go. That was simplified physics but still very enjoyable. You also had the Tomy SL de Ikou (2) game which was quite a long section of route on Hakodate and again, while simplified, there was a challenge conserving sufficient coal and water to finish the run.
I’d have the current way of driving steam as a beginner mode, with improvements in steaming and the ai fireman. As for an advanced mode, I’d personally expect it to match how Precision Locomotive Developments (previously called Bossman Games) locomotives work in TS Classic. The fact they got the Jubilee and 8F models from them, but didn’t try asking BMG to assist with setting up steam physics was a shame.
I like to see steam loco's in TSW but Dovetail needs to fix the Steam Phsyic's Simulation and they should at an expert and beginners level to players that are not familiar with driving a Steam Locomotive.
I think deep down, everyone wants more Steam in the game. As it stands there appears to be much work that needs doing... Hopefully some third parties and editor users chip in and have a bash.
Problem is, chicken and egg. DTG have basically said over to third parties, whinin turn have stated not until you sort out the core. Which is why one side or other needs to break the stalemate. I’m sure deep down even Matt P knows in his heart something like a Pannier Tank with “B” set or a Hall with some Collet coaches would sell like hot cakes. It’s taking that renewed leap of faith, probably because someone above EP level - maybe even Focus Entertainment themselves - have the mistaken idea that steam isn’t popular.
DTG never made any third party assistance in any of the streams when it came to Simugraph in the lead up to Spirit of Steam, they made it sound like it was all done in-house. I'm not going digging around for proof though, the streams are all there on the official YouTube if you want to go and look to them.
The fact that third party assistance wasn't mentioned on stream, doesn't back up your assertion that BMG weren't asked.
Well until it is mentioned by someone official that they were asked, it is safer to assume that wasn’t the case. I find it hard to believe they were asked going by the end result of the steam physics. Anyway, moving on! A part of me is hoping the announcement on the 20th for the season of reveals is steam related. The return of steam content is something that deserves a big announcement. I can’t think of anything else that does!
