December Season Of Reveals Speculation And Discussion Thread

Idk if I'm starting a duplicate thread, apologises if I have but I haven't really seen a speculation and discussion thread about this year's season of reveals. So I thought it would be a good idea to set one up feel free to discuss and speculate the reveals here.

What's been revealed so far (will be updated per reveal)

Specific discussion threads regarding certain reveals

• London Overground Mildmay Line: Stratford-willesden Junction Discussion Thread | Page 4 | Dovetail Games Forums
• Athena Simulations: Ecml Diesel Railtours | Dovetail Games Forums
  
• Jt New Loco In Works: 86/2! | Page 9 | Dovetail Games Forums

Reveal of some of the screenshots (will be updated by my constantly for each reveal)
Dec 3rd Metrolink F59PHR loco addon


Dec 4th Reveal - New Timetable Update to Köln-Aachen




Dec 5th Reveal - TSW5 Gameplay Add-on Bundles – Coming December 12th

 

I would like to see at least one of the reveals be a bundle of core fixes and updates. TSW5 is not in as good a state as TSW4 was at the end of its life cycle and there are several areas much needed improvements would be welcome. That would also increase the chance of content “reveals” getting a more positive welcome, rather than the somewhat cynical view that DTG are pushing new items on top of an increasingly unstable base game.

So far as what I’d like to see…
Well for stuff already announced or hinted at, dates for Mittenwaldbahn, Tadami and the Dutch route. More information on the Cardiff mini route.

Content not previously announced. Well I would like there to be a blue/grey Mark Ones pack along with buffet and sleeping cars, even if sold as a gameplay pack with layers on the BR Classic routes.

A new UK freight loco is on most player’s wishlist be it a 56, 60 or 70.

We need a complete Christmas themed DLC so as I postulated in Suggestions a week or two ago, a TSW style complex model railway set in a department store where the player is magically transported into the layout. That would be much more sparkly than the currently announced items, largely greeted with, “Okay, yeah.”

 

As OldVern has said, TSW5 is not in as good a state as TSW4 was, so I would like to see more of an emphasis on fixing the game.

Also the comment in the announcement regarding the update for WCMLS indicates that Gen9 users will have to turn off some layers to get decent performance. Gen9 is obviously current Gen and we are a few years away from Gen10, so with DTG's lack of ability to do any optimisation for consoles, does this indicate the beginning of the end of TSW on console.

 

Hoping one of the days will be an official reveal of the ESK Valley and NYRM route in development. And the return of steam! I’ll settle for another new UK route announcement if we don’t get any of those though.

 

That's my wish too. A big package of fixes. The list of errors and problems is already very long. If I wanted a train, then the German train 445 Twindexx.

 

Personally I think one of the big reveals would be changes to the GWE remaster as I have this feeling it is going to be more than a simple remaster with new services the new first great western livery etc. Maybe we'll be getting some of the branches on the route like the Greenford branch I won't even mind paying for an upgrade if it brings an extension to the route ik elarthur will love more branches of this section of the GWML.

 

I would love to see any, or better still all of the Thames Valley branches. I do however believe that this is not on the cards, more to the pity. I guess we should just wait and see. DTG Liam has already mentioned a great many changes that will certainly make me happy enough. Perhaps someone else wants to have a go at making the branches, both old and current as some kind of mini pack as I have suggested previously. I only hope that the wait is not too long for the release of this remaster.

 

Pretty underwhelming so far tbh. The new UK Route was sort of nown. The Update for Köln-Aachen wasn't a suprise at all, i mean what was revealed? Not even a release date for it. The Gameplay packs consist all of recycled Content. I would have at least expected a freightliner class 66... but not even that. At least pricing seems okay even tho i dont see why i should pay for content thats already there.

I also agree that it would be awsome to get a big fixture pack revealed, i dont see that happen as they would openly agree that the game is in quite a sad state atm.

 

I feel like they are following a pattern with these reveals British-American-German-Mix-(possibly new country) or Route-Loco-timetable-gameplaypack-(possibly remaster)

 

Passenger behaviour needs refining , some routes have passengers falling on the tracks, or no passengers in trains such as LIRR 2 and some stations being totally deserted (this also mainly on LIRR 2 but have seen on other routes).

 

I’m happy with the announcements so far. I do agree though, a big package of bug fixes would be the best announcement for everyone.

In terms of UK content the one thing that is requested again and again , as OldVern suggested, is a different UK freight loco. At this stage, done well, almost guaranteed to be a big seller just to see something other than a 66. I’d personally like to see a 70. Also, please give us a Valenta engined HST.

I’d love to see a route announcement including Berlin for German content. That’s probably wishful thinking though.

Aside from that I’m looking forward to the WCML improvements. I hope there are fixes for the AWS sounding incorrectly and the permanent red signal on one of the stations (even though the hud shows the correct aspect). I didn’t see these mentioned in the article. Also looking forward to the gameplay packs for UK and Germany.

 

Looks ok so I got pay for f125 because its got holiday lights on it and 3 scenarios I already own that train in two routes that should have been a free Xmas present to all who own that train.

The freight wagons for wcml should have been free for the inconvenience and problems we occurred on this route since day .

And the Germany train should free if already own in a different route.

Just my opinion please don't be nasty.

 

Personally I would prefer a 56 and a 60 over a 70 as we can use them on some of the older routes we have already like WCMLOS, NTP TVL Etc. As the 70s would really need there own route as they aren't that widespread like the 66. Also I would really love each kind of Mk1 Buffet made for TSW if we can't get any in the short term then please give us a mk2 buffet.

 

Fairly meh from my point of view so far. I only play UK routes and although I love commuter lines, I’m not a fan of the end point on the NLL(not to say others can’t be, it’s been discussed elsewhere).

Hoping there’s a couple UK gems over the next week.

 

I don't think there's anything currently on the roadmap route wise that Skyhook or Rivet are working on so perhaps we may get to see something new from them. Also I imagine Just Trains will have eyes on their next project but probably too early to hear about that as their Preston-Carlisle route has only just been released.

 

As Skyhook are doing the cargo packs, I've got a feeling they will bring a Freightliner pack out.
That would be a new loco, probably a 70 and a new liveried 66.

That would be a big seller for me.

I'd also like another Diesel Legends DLC, say the Diesel Legends 2 pack. Three new locos (not in the game) from the BR era.

 

Large chance JT's loco dlc will be revealled and large chance it's a 86.

 

Not had a problem with the reveals so far, but what I will say is the 20th December 'big' reveal will need to live up to expectations or this forum will be unbearable in the days afterwards.

 

Someone is going to be unhappy regardless

 

Athena sim maybe?

 

I feel like today’s reveal is going to be a Route remaster reveal. Maybe Tees Valley or something.

Just a total guess. Or it’s a new route .

 

Hmm.. perhaps yes

 

If it's a route remaster I think it should be a route that's not British as while I personally only play British routes i think it's unfair that no mainland European or American routes have received a remaster.

 

They did say that although concentrating on TSW. There would also be announcements for City Tram Sim, TSW VR and that Roblox thing. Maybe one of them today.

 

What time does they reveal these things

 

DTG have only done 2 official paid remasters. 1 for UK (SEHS) & 1 for US (LIRR).

All the rest have been done in a devs spare time, DTG can hardly tell them what to do there & I see no reason for them not be published based on fair distribution between countries.

 

14:00

 

JD said new content today

 

I am setting my expectations for another Christmas themed Holiday Elf route (or scenarios/layers for the existing route) ... Anything beyond that will be a pleasant surprise lol

 

Screenshots part 2
Dec 6th Reveal - BR Class 86/2 & Mk2F Coaches








Week 1 Bonus Reveal - Athena Simulations ECML Diesel Railtours Pack

 

the class 86 looks bloody fantastic, 4 liveries,

with the mk2 aircons and mk1 buffet, which is crazy.

 

Double whammy of an announcement the Class 86 and the Mk2Fs... Matron I think I'm about to faint!

So excited for this!

 

Has OldVern fainted out of sheer excitement yet as he is getting a mk 1 buffet car possibly 2 if Athena's making one.

 

Defribulator at the ready!

 

I would like to be excited for something in the future, but outside of any new screenshots from Union Workshop, Im not seeing it.

-The EMD F59PHR is probably the highlight of these reveals for me so far.
-The Holiday Train was predicted, and is kind of meh to me.
-I expect UW to have some more photos of Tadami, but still no release date.
-If HIS does have anything to show for their ATSF Gameplay pack, it will probably be early WIP, and that's it.
-I dont expect DTG to tease their next US route this early, especially with so many other routes from other countries ahead in development.

 

Can’t wait to put a freightliner livery on the 86

 

just found this out now but word is one of the reveals has been leaked i'm just saying it right now please don't discuss the leak on here until it officially is revealed as it ruins the season.

 

Do you think the final reveal on 20th December will be the release of Great Western Express remastered?

I mean, the last day has to be something big, right?

 

i think the 20th could be another holiday express route. wouldn't surprise me

 

Is it an official leak?

I do get sick and tired of people who do such things. It strikes me as just pure attention seeking as there is absolutely no gain for an individual to make from it.

 

Yep, leaking the info just ruins it IMO. It's not like the leak will make it release any quicker.
Quite like the season of reveals, nice to look forward to checking the phone every day for what's on the horizon.

 

All Ik they found out one of the reveals through whatsapp.

 

While I'm on it do you guys think this thread should be pinned during the duration of the season of reveals to make it easier for people to find.

 

Plus, when DTG find out who the leaker is, they will probably never work in the games industry again. Breaking an NDA could make them unemployable everywhere.

Stupid thing to do, just for 15 minutes of fame.

Maybe, I think this thread is pretty popular.

 

Week 2 Screenshots part 1
New screenshots from the GWE remaster (bonus reveal not today's actual reveal which is for tram sim)




Guessing me and elarthur will be having issues with traffic

 

I have a sneaking suspicion that this weeks reveals will be non TSW related

 

its something to do with trams sim with gwe bouns look

 

Anything that takes work to develop shouldn't be "automatically free" because months or years ago you bought something else.
We've had this debate before on the forum over and over.
The "something for nothing" attitude makes no sense.
It's even a bit snobbish saying "well I already own this other route"
Well that's nice.... but not everyone owns the same content you do.
Other people exist in the world.
If you don't want the route... don't buy it.
Your lack of buying it will speak more than a thousand words on the forum.

 

Where is this?

 

I own every route spent 100s of pounds not too much to ask for a holiday train for free seeing as its an loco most us own with some Christians decorations on it