Wcmls Major Update (december 2024)

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  1. SierraOscar95

    SierraOscar95 Well-Known Member

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    This seems quite a balls up even for those who have received the update...
     
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  2. OldVern

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    Guess it will be best to continue to leave WCMLS in the ignored corner, until this gets sorted then.
     
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  3. stocktonlad

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    HOA and TEA Are Cargo Lines Vol 1 and 2. The HKA is a new add on but hasnt released yet.
     
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  4. dal#7945

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    Did they say something about shunting jobs as well also everything still looks as it did before just pick a few freight jobs and only had 12 wagons I mean what was in that 4.5gb update
     
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    Already available.
     
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  6. Sharon E

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    I am on pc and now show well over 900 services.
     
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  7. OldVern

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    Ah! Got to finish up a run on Maintalbahn then I shall take a look.
     
  8. Sharon E

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    A note to anyone that has JetWash and company's eps along with faux's timetable, all of these are causing UE crashes and need to be removed.
     
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  9. Concorde9289

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    The font on the London Overground station signs still looks suspiciously like the default font that was there before.
     
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  10. Jarcas99

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    Really ? I thought they might be around 800.
     
  11. gwrphil811

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    I’m on ps5 with the update installed and still only showing 638 services.
     
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  12. dean stansfield

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    Done a North and South run.
    New grass and plant and the trees are a big improvement.
    No more flashing water textures.
    Slight improvement around Watford and Wembley performance wise.
    First 350 run was a 8 carriage, suspension is there.
    I'll have a run on the Bakerloo after I've made the tea.
    I'll get the gameplay pack when it's available;
    Likely to add a bit more traffic??
    I'd like to know if the update is fully completed; apart from bug fixes.
    Thanks.
     
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  14. Mikey_9835

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    Well this is a bit of a mess isn't it?
     
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  15. Sharon E

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    Installed the new eps and it runs and looks great.
     
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  16. toms87

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    Same here =)
     
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    Same here.
     
  18. Sharon E

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    Just looked again, 794 in timetable and 8 scenarios for 802 total.
     
  19. Disintegration7

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    So does Steam have the right patch at this point? At work atm so will have to d/l when i get home
     
  20. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    For some reason the UI is reporting the wrong number.

    I just checked over my PC install:

    72 Stock - 350 services
    Class 350 - 244 services
    Class 377 - 36 services
    Class 66 - Total is 44 but you might see less as some of these I think are the new gameplay pack
    Class 710 shows up as 84 but that's only reporting one of the two subclasses, the reality is about double as fawx 50/50'd them
    Class 390 shows up as 39 but its only reporting the 390/0 - the 390/1 has an additional 60 (just counted 'em)

    Total for me therefore: 941

    The UI is only showing 818 services for me total, and the individual locos as noted above are missing the second subclasses from being included.

    As for why the UI is counting wrong, I'll take that back to the mathematicians in the team :)

    BTW this is on a PC will full DLC installed so if you have less, it may be because you're missing something perhaps.

    I am going to check PS5 and Xbox in a bit and double check those.

    Matt.
     
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  21. gwrphil811

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    Thanks for checking into things Matt. Hope your evening going well.
     
  22. Phil567

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    Just did a night run on the watford dc line from euston. Really good improvement I would say much busier passed lots of underground trains , and 5 car 710s. Really impressed and night lighting was actually looking very good, not sure if they did actually improve that, but it certainly looked good. Also lots of incorrect aws warnings removed and signalling all good. Got off at Watford PIS now showing all correct which is great , and it definitely felt busier.
     
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  23. Tigert1966

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    I thought the fix for AI Pendolinos to allow them to travel at 125 was meant to be included? I just did a run and every one of them was still travelling at 110. It's not in the patch notes either.
     
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    I've just had another update on xbox I have 792 services now and the 5 car 710
     
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    Thanks DTG Matt

    Can you please confirm:
    1. Which layers are now needed for WCMLS to get the 'full' experience? An article might be helpful with exact breakdowns, but I of course wouldn't want to ruin any 'Easter Eggs'
    2. Re the 390/1 - are these additional as in compared to the number showing, or additional as in added in the update? If the latter, do you know how many more playable 390/1s have been added please?
    3. Should 390 conductor mode from the main menu be coming in a later update
    4. Are there additional playable or ai 350 services in the latest update?
    I'd appreciate answers to any you have on hand, particularly Q1. Don't worry if they are unknown.

    Thank you very much :)
     
  26. DJsnapattack

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    Don't see any changes to freight, what happened to the promised TEA, HTA etc etc services we were promised? The 66 TT is unchanged.
     
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  27. DTG Matt

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    1) Will post a picture shortly.
    2) the 390/1 are just not counted in the UI, its only showing you the count for 390/0 services. As to what's new - don't know i'm afraid :)
    3) Conductor mode - i'll find out, not sure where that got to, I recall the team making progress figuring the issue out but not where they got to with it.
    4) This timetable I believe has a lot of extra AI generally - but I couldn't say how many new services exactly it is, I don't know i'm afraid.

    I think the total number of services including AI is circa 2,000 vs the playable circa 940.

    Didn't make it into this patch as it needs some more testing, but will get it out asap.

    Liam has done a lot of improvement work generally, optimising the use of lighting both by removing AND adding it. Result is better looks, better framerates :)

    Matt.
     
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  28. Tigert1966

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    PC and PS5 both with all UK DLC

    PC = 794 services
    PS5 = 638 services

    Comparing it looks like it’s underground and 710 services that are missing. Both have significantly less than the PC if the counters are correct.

    No mods on PC. PS5 freshly installed to make sure I had the latest versions.
     
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  29. KatiaBLR

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    This might be a stupid question but are there now 5 car class 710 services in timetable mode? If so are these automatically included now?

    thanks!
     
  30. Phil567

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    Thanks Matt I definitely did think it looked better , so enjoyed the night run from Euston to Watford!
     
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    PS5 currently hasn't received the new timetable.
     
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    PS5 user here, nothing new yet. Waiting patiently!
    Should we expect 794 or 940 services...depending on what layers you have?
     
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    Something positive and not in the patch notes that I can see. Signal WS37 at Stonebridge Park now correctly shows Green / Amber matching the hud. Before it was always Red. That at least makes me happy as I enjoy driving the 710 and it felt wrong going through Red even if the hud said it was ok.

    Still getting an incorrect AWS warning coming out of Euston though just after you go down the ramp and up the other side.

    In general though, driving out of Euston in a 390 in the early morning was an absolute pleasure. Had a 390 and 710 parallel running soon after leaving then lots of traffic on the Overground / Underground Lines + different length 350s. Looking forward to downloading it on my desktop tomorrow with mods.
     
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  34. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    Just looking at the Class 66 freight.

    I browsed through the timetable file itself and found some representative examples:

    4L24 at 09:27 FKA Freight Train
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    6O77 21:31 TEA Freight Train (it IS there honest)
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    6B10 04:41 HOA Freight Train
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    I'll go get a list :)
     
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  35. Phil567

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    Noticed that too, glad it was fixed!
     
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    FKA
    4L24 09:27
    4M88 14:21
    4L56 18:23
    4L60 23:36
    4L82 02:16
    4M18 06:32
    4L52 08:12
    4L97 10:47
    4M93 16:49
    4L47 23:52
    4L23 00:30
    4M75 03:46
    4L57 07:13
    4L18 17:51
    4M02 20:48
    4M60 22:16
    4L27 01:26
    4L66 06:20
    4L48 14:21
    4M37 22:44
    4L80 02:20
    4L15 04:00
    4M41 09:35
    4M63 12:46
    6O71 15:41
    4M43 02:51
    0B50 19:51
    0O85 22:39
    4L99 12:17


    TEA
    6O77 21:31


    HOA
    6B10 04:41
    4F04 09:41


    That's all the freight on those layers (excluding the gameplay pack).

    Matt.
     
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    On Xbox SX I have done the full update but the Overground roundels still have the previous font unfortunately.
     
  38. parder#4923

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    Has anyone got the full update on PS5 yet?
     
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    The update seems to have broken something on the 350. The instrumental light dimmer (des light) isn’t working, which makes driving at night (HUDless) a bit of a nightmare.
    Anyone else experiencing similar problems? I’m on PC and prior to the update everything worked fine (and yes, I have the latest version of the EP from today). Problems occur on both the DTG and fawx’s timetable
     
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  40. wasabi#2857

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    After the update the game now crashes when I try to play the dlc
     
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    Not yet I beleive its still being looked into for consoles
     
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    DTG Matt - is it just PS5 that hasn't got the update?
     
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    We're looking into it atm. Still getting my own consoles updated.

    Matt.
     
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    I'm on xbox x and pretty sure I have not got the full update all the hype for this awesome update I was expecting what a let down it is right now
     
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    I have tried the 350, the 377 and the diesel 66, every time the game crashed.
     
  47. DTG Matt

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    PC, Xbox Series S, Series X, PS4, PS5 etc ?
     
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    I´m on PC
     
  49. MarkCovz4761

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    Yes I have them on xbox series x
     
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  50. DTG Matt

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    I would verify files then in Steam.

    Can you post a screenshot of the error and share your system specs?
     
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