Wcmls Major Update (december 2024)

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  1. Bryer

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    If you've got the EP installed, you need to update it. It crashes if you don't.
     
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    Ah yes, check yer mods. Good shout Bryer.
     
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    DTG Matt does the series s have the same timetable update as the rest of the gen 9?
     
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    Both EPs`?
     
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    Are there meant to be class 47 services i have 730 services are there some missing I'm on xbox series x
     
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    I dont recall seeing any Class 47 services on my PC version, no. My xbox is still updating :)

    I think there are one or two minor layers disabled on the S but majority should be there.

    Matt.
     
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    Matt, could you confirm the one or two minor layers so I can know what to expect when I play on the series s next?
     
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    On Xbox Series S, the route info is showing up to 800 services. Were the railtours meant to be part of the timetable update for Series S? The layers showing for me are the 350, 66, Bakerloo Line stock, 377 and 710, but no railtours so far, unless they're the missing ones Matt mentions.
     
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    Maybe
     
  10. Bryer

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    Both EP's? There's only one EP for the WCML South as far as I'm aware.

    DTG Matt - Not meaning to sound pedantic, but the locations listed in the descriptions for freight services are all wrong.

    4M18 and other services that start at Harlesden in the list aren't starting in Harlesden they are starting on the Willesden Up/Down Goods #1 or #2.

    The services labelled as starting in Wembley sidings aren't right, they start in Wembley Receptions 1-7.

    Also you've got a freight starting/ending points at
    • Harlesden Junction / Kensal Green Junction (City Lines to Mildmay Line)
    • West London Junction
    • Willesden Number 7
    • Acton Lane Receptions
    Tagged in DTG Liam for the above.
     
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    Oh right on my series x i have 792 services I think some are missing still
     
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    There's one for the route and one for the timetable
     
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    if you have the original 350 branding mod ( not the updated one) it crashes the game with a Unreal engine error , after you start to load into the route .
     
  14. DTG Matt

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    I'll have to defer to Liam for info on that.

    See one of my previous posts - the counter is incorrect in the UI - look at the service breakdown in my post and the explanation and then compare notes with what you have.

    On my Series X (now that it's finished updating and i've restarted it) it's all matching up to expectation - but - I will say one more time - the counter is incorrect.

    Matt.
     
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    Looking at Liam's notes - just the TEA layer has been disabled on S from the looks of it.

    Matt.
     
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    Hi Matt.
    Have you managed to update your PlayStation yet? Just wondered if that was ok?
     
  17. 14trainfan2029

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    Thanks Matt
     
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    Did the HOA's to Watford Yard get scrapped from the plan?
     
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    Transpires I don't even have the content on it... so... i'm currently activating it and slowly installing it :)

    Matt.
     
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    Thank you for all your doing for all of us tonight.
     
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    I have asked :)
     
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    Above & beyond tonight Matt. Appreciate all you’re doing. Don’t forget to put in overtime haha!
     
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    nothing on ps5 jus tried it now
     
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    Thank you Matt, we appreciate all your hard work.

    So for PS5 we seem to have a full 350 timetable, maybe a full 72 stock timetable but lacking extra Overground and Pendos?
     
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    Thanks because as it stands at the moment, there is only 1 discharge diagram as per the announcement back in the November 2024 roadmap. I believe Watford was added as a discharge area, and Willesden F sidings to be added for JNA traffic.

    6B10 is a unload at Bletchley, but there is not anything at the South end of the route.

    Aggregates Hopper traffic could go to Watford Yard (starting from Acton Lane Receptions/ West London Junction) and Bletchley (starting from MKC) for discharge.

    There's currently no DCR based JNA diagrams that go into Willesden F sidings that I can find or that come out of Wembley Euro Terminal aka HS2 Muck away trains (FLHH or GBRf), some go to Cliffe, some go to Barrington and one goes up to Rugby, all with JNA wagons.

    Just incase anyone was wondering why I'm giving all this feedback, it's because Wembley/Willesden is my "stomping ground", I drive freight from Willesden depot for one of the freight companies and just want to be a "useful engine".
     
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    Thank you
     
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    Hi matt help in the pendos its only 46 jobs I think but if you add the 9 car and 11 car jobs up its more than 100 but its showing that I'm on xbox series x
     
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    Playing TSW must be like bus mans holiday for you then lol
     
  29. Bryer

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    It is when it's done right! ;)
     
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    As noted - the counters showing in the UI are wrong, but the services are there.

    On the PC, I went into the 390/0 and verified the 49 services by counting them, then went in to the 390/1 and counted them, and there are 60 services in there. I didn't count the 710/2 and 710/3 separately but Fawx (who provided them) said there are roughly the same amount in each - so with 84 in the 710/2 that suggests around 84 in the 710/3 as well. Again, counter will not reflect that, but they are there to use.

    Matt.
     
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    Talking to Liam - the HKA in the UK Gameplay Pack is where a lot of this is I gather. I specifically asked about the ones to Watford Yard and he's noted that those are in the UK Gameplay Pack layer. I'll go get a list of what's in there.

    Matt.
     
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    And that's the one coming on the 12th of December right?
     
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    3 services.... better than erm.. none? really disappointed Matt. Maybe in the future the timetables could be outsourced to the community heroes that have helped to make WCMLs and Fife Circle varied and playable?
     
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  34. DTG Liam

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    The layers we had to cut for this release include the MFA and JNA's which made up a lot of the services around Wembley sidings, Willesden F sidings and the Euro Terminal area. The upcoming HKA gameplay pack does make use of the Watford unloader along with services to and from Wembley sidings.
     
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    Thanks for clarifying. If you need anything in relation to freight in the Wembley area, PM's are open.
     
  36. DTG Matt

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    These are the extra services that will activate with the UK Gameplay Pack:

    6M07: Drayton Hanson - Wembley Receptions [HKA]
    6V07: Wembley Receptions - Whatley Quarry [HKA]
    6V49: Northampton Castle Yard - Acton Yard [HKA]
    6V77: Forders Sidings - Acton T.C. [HKA]
    6V06: Burton - Acton T.C. [HKA]
    7M83: Hanwell Bridge Loop - Watford Concrete (Part 1) [HKA]
    7M83: Hanwell Bridge Loop - Watford Concrete (Part 2) [HKA]
    7A17: Watford Concrete - Wembley Receptions (Part 1) [HKA]
    7A17: Watford Concrete - Wembley Receptions (Part 2) [HKA]
    6M75: Forders Sidings - Cricklewood Aggregates [HKA]
    6M77: Acton T.C. - Forders Signal Box [HKA]
    6L36: Tunstead Sidings - Bow East [HKA]
    6L11: Dowlow Briggs Sidings - Bow East [HKA]


    Matt.
     
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    These layers affected PC performance?
     
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    Cor! You've nailed the diagrams for those services!
     
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    We had one last minute report of a PC crashing, multiple of Series X and PS5 crashing - so we removed a bunch of layers to ease things and not have to hold the release up.

    The plan is to get back to it with a clear head and bring as much of it, if not all, back as quickly as possible - but rather than bring out an update that caused crashes, we thought we'd bring an awesome update out, and then follow it up with another awesome update.

    We have found some more optimisations for the WCML route and stock too which are being worked on and will support this.

    These and railtours etc should be back at some point soon.

    Matt.
     
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    Every layer affects performance.
    There was an update posted last week where we've had to trim down the full timetable for this release due to memory issues else where on the route. Hopefully when they are sorted and the route is more stable we can ship the full timetable which has extra freight layers/services.
     
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    See the post above yours! Railtours have temporarily removed until a later date!
     
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    That's really positive to hear they'll be back once a fix is available. Much appreciated!

    Still waiting for the PS5 update, so will call it a night and see what tomorrow brings.
     
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    That's one of the layers that was removed at the last minute as it was found to have a large memory footprint.

    Layers NOT present in this update which should hopefully follow soon:

    ROG 37 Class 710 ECS moves
    Class 150 Marston Vale Line
    Static Stock from Diesel Legends
    JNA freight
    MFA freight
    RHTT
    Class 87 Railtour
    Flying Scotsman Railtour
    Class 87 Sleeper
    Static Stock from WSR

    As soon as we can get these back, we will, they don't add many services, maybe 50-100 max in total, but they incur a big increase in memory footprint.

    Matt
     
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    Sincerely appreciate the explanation and the work to bring them back. Thank you for taking time out of your evening too.

    Truly appreciate it Matt!
     
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    Thanks appreciate all what you are doing tonight but happened to the 12 car 350s there only a few 8s and mostly 4s.
     
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    On PS5, I even went on the GOBLIN line to see if the 710/3 had ported over to there, nope. Still the four coach set. I've not got any of the extra services.
     
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    Definitely looks like an issue on PS5 update - we're looking into it.

    Matt.
     
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    I just saw a 12 car formation passing on the Up while working 2C42 on the Up DC Line about 1550.
     
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    The 12 car Class 350 runs these services:
    • 2N04: Milton Keynes - London Euston
    • 2K05: London Euston - Milton Keynes
    • 2K06: Milton Keynes - London Euston
    • 2T23: London Euston - Tring
    • 2T24: Tring - London Euston
    • 2K23: London Euston - Milton Keynes
    • 2K24: Milton Keynes Central - London Euston
    • 2T41: London Euston - Tring
    • 2T42: Tring - London Euston
    • 2K41: London Euston - Milton Keynes
    • 2K42: Milton Keynes Central - London Euston
    • 2T65: London Euston - Tring
    • 2T66: Tring - London Euston
    • 2K59: London Euston - Milton Keynes
    • 2K60: Milton Keynes Central - London Euston
    • 2N71: London Euston - Northampton

     
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    Just for clarity, I took note of all the missing Class 350 services with the headcodes for each service. Are all these missing services added as part of the update?

    1. London Euston to Birmingham New Street via Northampton (1Y/1W Coded)

    A. Northbound:

    1Y27, 1Y29, 1Y33, 1Y49, 1Y59, 1Y61, 1Y77 and 1Y81

    B. Southbound

    1W12, 1Y16, 1Y22, 1Y26, 1Y40, 1Y42, 1Y48, 1Y50, 1Y64 and 1Y66

    2. London Euston to Milton Keynes/Northampton via Hemel Hempstead (2K/2N/2B Coded)

    A. Northbound

    2K45, 2K53, 2K63 and 2K65

    B. Southbound

    2K46, 2K54, 2N32, 2B02, 2B06, 2B53,

    3. London Euston to Tring via Hemel Hempstead (2T Coded)

    A. Northbound

    2T09, 2T57, 2T59 and 2T69

    B. Southbound

    2T08, 2T10, 2T58 and 2T70
     

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