Custom Liveries Causing Trains To Have Missing Train Cars And Causing Massive Stutters

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  1. SubwayRailfanner

    SubwayRailfanner Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone still experience this issue where AI Trains with Custom liveries having missing train cars and causes the game to stutter when the livery is trying to load into the game? It’s been an issue since TSW 2. Liveries used to load in very smoothly and very quick in the early days of when the livery editor was first released. It’s kind of immersion breaking when this issue occurs and it’s worse on high speed routes since the train liveries don’t have enough time to load in before a train passes by.
     
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  2. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    We think it's something due to specific liveries as we've been unable to reproduce it - if you can point me at some specific cases to repro then I can get someone to take a look.
     
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  3. SubwayRailfanner

    SubwayRailfanner Well-Known Member

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    Will do I will see if i can get a clip of it happening
     
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    Inkar Well-Known Member

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    Add the livery name and author so devs can find it.
     
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    OK- my CC "Transwaggon" Habbins liveries on Riesa-Dresden. Sometimes show up, other times become "invisible cars" in between default-liveried ones.
     
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  6. SubwayRailfanner

    SubwayRailfanner Well-Known Member

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    Am on PS5. Hopefully I can explain this well. So the issue happens when a AI Train is approaching my train but is using a custom livery that am not using on my train or in the train consist am using even if it’s a default livery. I believe it’s because it is technically not loaded into the game because am not using that specific livery on the train that am driving. This only seems to happen to only multiple unit trains since it takes a little more time to load all the other cars. But when I am using a livery that the AI Train is using everything is already loaded and no stutters happen.


    To replicate this issue you just have to use a train livery that a AI train is not using and you will see it more when you’re going 60 mph to 125 mph even if it’s default livery. As long as the AI Train isn’t using the same livery as you. It’s noticeable when the AI Train is coming at you from the opposite direction. One route that you will see is happen the most is ECML. The Azuma will take a lot more time to load since it is a 9 car train going at 125 mph. When it’s a single a loco it tends to load instantly. I think fixing the issue on high speed routes will automatically fix the issues on slower routes.

    DTG Matt



    When you are not using the same livery as the AI Train















    When your using the same livery as the AI Train





    https://youtu.be/qHzvTmHDhZk?si=oH39zyz7oXD555ES
     
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  7. SubwayRailfanner

    SubwayRailfanner Well-Known Member

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    Seems to happen with any livery for multiple unit trains
     
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    MYG92 Well-Known Member

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    This issue exists since TSW2, it’s happening mostly on busy routes with big timetables like SEHS or LBN for exemple. That’s what I noticed on my side, most of the times it’s 1 coaches or half of the set not showing up at all, when a custom livery is applied on it.
     
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  9. SubwayRailfanner

    SubwayRailfanner Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I believe it was some type of core change that caused this issue to happen and has been present ever since. I remember I use to be on PS4 in the early days of TSW 2 and everything loaded fine until that one update. I moved to PS5 hoping it would solve that issue and it hasn’t unfortunately.
     
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  10. SubwayRailfanner

    SubwayRailfanner Well-Known Member

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    I just got a good clip of it happening on LIRR 2.0 during my run and I think this one shows the issue a little bit more better

     
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    aeronautic237 Well-Known Member

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    In TSW3, I had it happen with the Javelin's "Love to Ukraine" livery from Creator's Club.
     
  12. SubwayRailfanner

    SubwayRailfanner Well-Known Member

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    Am guessing it happened to you on HS1 in the Javelin
     
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    aeronautic237 Well-Known Member

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    Javelin (Class 395) yes, but it was between Gravesend and Higham, so not HS1.
     
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  14. SubwayRailfanner

    SubwayRailfanner Well-Known Member

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    Oh okay got it I used to have custom liveries for the Javelin but remade them on the 801. But I remember that happening to me very badly on the HS1 because of how fast you are bypassing another 395 with a custom livery because it didn’t have the right amount of time to load all the cars properly
     
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    Yeah I have some footage I recorded from two different services on the Long Island railroad M3. A lot more visible with this train.


    https://youtube.com/shorts/tj0879qmAnc?si=A6dWNMC3Kwgxji4a
     
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  16. TrackingTrains

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    I always have this issue, though on PS4 so could just be a memory/graphics power thing. Thought it was normal tbh.
     
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  17. SubwayRailfanner

    SubwayRailfanner Well-Known Member

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    Yeah it’s not it used to load in properly on PS4 but now it’s a issue for both
     
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    Some newer footage that I recorded while doing some runs on LIRR. This time on TSW 5. Really hope a fix can be sorted at some point. I started to slowly stop creating liveries because of this issue and removing them off my PS5. It’s kind of hard to enjoy them like this. Am still happy to help with the repro.



     
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  19. Isaiah#77

    Isaiah#77 New Member

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    Is there any updates on this issue being resolved? DTG Matt DTG Harry. Am having massive stutters on WCML when a train is using custom liveries such as a AI Class 350 passing by.
     
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  20. donny#2924

    donny#2924 New Member

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    I am the same on series x. Performance issues and AI train coaches disappearing with custom liveries
     
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  21. SubwayRailfanner

    SubwayRailfanner Well-Known Member

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    I think WCML is by far the worst stutter I have seen when it comes too AI Trains using custom liveries. Captured new videos of it happening on WCML. Am mostly going to uninstall all my hard worked on liveries just to not deal with this issue anymore.







     
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