Thanks for the tip, it's 4V67, so i went a bit too slow Poor trains behind me...Still a great journey
I've just completed a wonderful sequence of services on Preston - Carlisle. While each service on its own probably wouldn't qualify for a GOAT list, the full experience of playing all of them in order, without leaving the game world, definitely does in my opinion. This was one of the most fun TSW sessions I can remember. Start at 9:27 with 0P06 North Union Yard to Preston, taking an 87 from a siding to Preston Station. Your locomotive then takes over 1P06 Liverpool Lime Street to Carlisle, which is formed of a Mk II formation and makes all stops to Carlisle. You also get to both overtake a freight train and be overtaken yourself by an express. A few minutes after arriving in Carlisle, you run the loco around the coaches in service 0P05 Carlisle to Carlisle. This service can't be selected from the main menu, so make sure you stay in the game world after finishing 1P06 (or spawn on foot at 11:00). After about 20 minutes, your train then forms 1P05 Carlisle to Lancaster, again making all stops and ending at 12:47 with a rare (for the 87, that is) path into Lancaster platform 5. If you're a completionist, you could now wait in-game for another 40 minutes, after which your train continues to Preston as 1G73 Lancaster to Birmingham New Street, but I thought that a real-life driver would probably have gone for their lunch break after 1P05 and decided to do the same. I highly recommend doing this run in one go if you have the time for it. The shunting breaks up the main line runs nicely and getting lots of different tasks in a logical order instead of picking one random service at a time really made me feel immersed in the game world.
I have a lovely (part of a) winter night shift on WCMLoS for you. It’s 1S04 with the Class 87 at 00:32 - a mail train from Preston to Carlisle. The trick is starting on foot though. I’d recommend December and snow for a cold winter shift. You should spawn on foot at Preston no later then 00:20. Make your way over to “Preston North Union Siding 1” for your assigned 87 and the light loco move 0S04 (starting at 00:24 - not available in the timetable selection, unfortunately). By always returning to free roam on each service end, You will eventually couple up to the mail train and run 1S04. Spoiler The start is incredibly atmospheric. Preston is quite busy all things considered for what is literally the middle of the night as what will be your mail train reaches the station, an 08 quickly runs after it to attach two coaches and multiple passenger services run past you. The winter setting with the night and signals casting their lights contrasted by the station lighting is beautiful. The light loco shunting does a good job of making you feel part of what is going on instead of ‘only’ running a random service. It feels more like an actual beginning of a work shift and less like any other simulator run this way. Once on your way with the train, I caught up to a freight service that I passed at Carnforth. After that, the run became relaxed but still atmospheric.
Just did a run on BML with class 66 which was a convoy run. Lots of adverse signals when departing and chasing double yellows etc.
I am generally not a fan of calling services awesome just because of traffic (almost every german route has plenty of traffic on every service nowadays), but this one felt so much fun to me I would even nominate it for GOAT among the DE/AT freight content. S-Bahn Vorarlberg 53218 Kufstein (Hamburg Dradenau) - Wolfurt 2x BR193 It's one of the mixed trains coming from the Alps, but it's pretty packed and it has rather weak brakes (to save you time calculating it: 69 BrH, LL brakes, PZB M, 95 km/h). The catch is, you will be following the S1 stopper across the whole map. The average speed of the stopper is pretty low, but the blocks on the route are very long, and of course you are running downhill the whole time, so you will have plenty of time to accelerate to line speed before inevitably running into restrictive signal again. If you think A-B freights are boring afb-sifa-fest, this one will prove you hella wrong: For extra fun, run it in full snow to even further weaken the adhesion. And don't forget to acknowledge austrian repeaters! If you decide to stay in the pair of vectrons, they will have a short break until cca. 11:30, and then they will shunt over to 59186 Wolfurt - Kornwestheim and take the train to Lustenau.
The spreadsheets are updated with two new GOATS! noir has complied a list of Matching Services between FTF and KWG (and BRO): https://forums.dovetailgames.com/posts/904330/ Google Published Documents: TSW3-5 Recommended Service Runs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...4lUuBrw-k2_y7FxuzH6mZ1m3Qu4YTfLViTfxQ/pubhtml TSW1-2 Recommended Service Runs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet..._wzt7qTCooxSTBW8pGAwYLs_ohsdDOcQOuZ4A/pubhtml Chaos Runs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...yCTbHVZrwBSBUUkPiiJGlTWfRXexfPn7kBVDw/pubhtml Excel Spreadsheets: TSW3-5 Recommended Service Runs https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...ouid=108028767534258522758&rtpof=true&sd=true TSW1-2 Recommended Service Runs https://drive.google.com/file/d/14YgilvnKZFc7TJXyqftRJ0I5yTMlMf81/view?usp=sharing Chaos Runs https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cMKrwNA2OmZz8tVEQo1_FZnRZXpNT463/view?usp=sharing
Thankyou! On the southbound liner scenario another thread on the forums had a good suggestion about changing the brake settings from passenger to freight so you don't get thrown around as much when pulling into the passing loops to stop. Apparently JT didn't put this in the manual. Wish I'd known that when I tried it!
Just done a nice little run on WCMLS from the EP Timetable mode, 2T11 7.32 Euston to Tring semi-fast. Run in December for atmosphere as the sun comes up. Starts off clear and gradually turns to a snow storm as you travel north. Lots of AI heading to London and over takes, plus time to train watch on your dwell times.
Not sure whether to put this in a feedback thread as a bugged service or here as an awesome run: In the 2 car Class 101 on the Morecambe Branch 2P87 at 12:53 It's impossible to be on time as you are held at a red at Lancaster until the return service from Morecambe arrives. There's also some adverse signals once you get going. A short but sweet 12 minute run before you can have some fun wandering around Morecambe and then do the return if you like.
A surprising gem on WCML South given the limitations of the Overground timetable. 2C08 Watford Junction-Euston at 7.13 I figured this might be nice visually as you would see a lot of rush hour traffic coming in and out of Euston. I struggle to always keep eaxctly to time on overground services and as I was running 1-2 minutes late I encountered some traffic outside Euston with both a 390 and 350 that required quick breaking to avoid a SPAD/TPWS intervention. If you are good at running to time on overground services you may not encounter this but it's still a visually nice run. If the overground timetable with the new update has the vast majority of actual services I can foresee a lot more fun services on this route.
Just wanted to say thank you for recommending this run, set the weather to snow storm in December and it was a really nice run overall, especially with the fact that I had to coax the loco up to maximum power with the amount of (what I assume is) wheelslip out of Preston.
West Coast Main Line: Preston to Carlisle. LOCO: Class 87/0 TIMETABLE: 6V75 Mossend to Severn Tunnel Junction (09:51) WEATHER: Dynamic - Light snow. Service is limited to 60mph, but you will be lucky to get over 20mph when first leaving Carlisle, due to severe wheel slip, which isn't helped by the heavy steel you're dragging behind you, and the neutral section that you hit immediately on leaving the station at the start. It's just like playing Dark Souls with a pantograph!
Just a quick update of the spreadsheets since I am going to be away from my PC for a while. Please let me know of any errors or omissions. Also, it will be interesting to see how the 7 currently recommended WCML South Runs change with the new timetable. I also look forward to more good runs on this route with the update. noir has complied a list of Matching Services between FTF and KWG (and BRO): https://forums.dovetailgames.com/posts/904330/ Google Published Documents: TSW3-5 Recommended Service Runs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...4lUuBrw-k2_y7FxuzH6mZ1m3Qu4YTfLViTfxQ/pubhtml TSW1-2 Recommended Service Runs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet..._wzt7qTCooxSTBW8pGAwYLs_ohsdDOcQOuZ4A/pubhtml Chaos Runs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...yCTbHVZrwBSBUUkPiiJGlTWfRXexfPn7kBVDw/pubhtml Excel Spreadsheets: TSW3-5 Recommended Service Runs https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...ouid=108028767534258522758&rtpof=true&sd=true TSW1-2 Recommended Service Runs https://drive.google.com/file/d/14YgilvnKZFc7TJXyqftRJ0I5yTMlMf81/view?usp=sharing Chaos Runs https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cMKrwNA2OmZz8tVEQo1_FZnRZXpNT463/view?usp=sharing
JustWentSouth could you give some of us editing access to the spreadsheets do you think (even if it doesn't include me as I could understand you may want more "established" posters)?
First recommendation for the new WCML timetable. If you are interested in the Class 710 'test runs' they are under the 710/2. There are 4 services between 1.05am and 5.11am. As a driver you could in theory run them at any time of the year but as an AI layer they will appear in Jan/Feb. I did 5Q54 at 5.11am from Milton Keynes in February as it had the best chance of encountering some early morning AI. A fun drive of the 710 under AC power where you can see what it's like at top speed. I believe the official design top speed of the 710 is 75mph but I managed 77mph thoughout. Spoiler Around 6 miles out from Willesden you will encounter adverse signals including a couple of reds. A change of ends also required in the yard
I'm a bit hooked on the Lioness line at the moment. Just great to string together services in rush hour. Just completed 2C10 in the 710/3 which has an epic amount of AI fly past on the way to Euston plus a couple of adverse signals. And then you only have to wait around 6 minutes at Euston to go and have the same fun doing 2D62 back to Watford Junction.
Try service 2N04 on the WCML South line in the new timetable with the Class 350. It's an early morning limited stopping service from Milton Keynes to London Euston. I ran it in August for some pretty lights. Plenty of early morning traffic on the WCML. Spoiler You are following another service until Tring. Pretty enjoyable AWS action while running on yellows.
While an excellent route in other respects, Preston - Carlisle is not awash with services with signal checks. This is not unrealistic. At the time the route is set, the actual amount of traffic was well within the capacity of the multiple-aspect signalling on the route, so it was relatively rare to get delayed by adverse signals. 1P63 Euston - Carlisle (1715 from Preston) is worth a mention, therefore. Spoiler Departure from Lancaster is delayed by a DMU crossing from the Up Main into the Down bay at the North end of the station. Although unremarkable in itself, this puts you about 3 mins down on schedule, and with the sectional running times being tight (as they were in real life) it's not easy time to make up. You can make up time in the station stops at Oxenholme and Penrith if you choose to - because the booked dwell times are much longer than the 'barbers pole' countdown - but I make it a rule not to, as in real life the long trains of slam-door stock, combined with a high proportion of passengers being occasional travellers and/or laden with luggage, meant that dwell times were rarely shorter than scheduled. If you force yourself to make up the time in running, rather than in the dwell times, it makes for an interesting challenge.
The Cardiff-Hardendale Railtour is interesting, well the first part is from Preston to Carlisle, Non stop but you're following a 60mph freight the whole way so you're chasing the yellows.
E2G 1E11 801 Running under yellows from a couple of miles in - presumably following a slower service.
Thanks for posting this. I don't have Fife Circle or the 158 and I guess that is why the Sprinter timetable does not show up for me. I am not up to date with all the Scottish or US DLC. So, to include this on the spreadsheet, I will need more information. Please see the spreadsheet format to get an idea of what needs to be included. Thanks.
Route ScotRail Express Sprinter EDG-GLS Service Title 1E11 Aberdeen - London Kings Cross Locomotive Class 801 Comments Running under yellows from a couple of miles in - presumably following a slower service. Hope this helps
Thank you. Just a couple of more questions: Is it the 801/0 or 801/1 and what time does it start? Thanks for your patience with this. When I personally have the DLC, I can fill in such details.
Time of train is 10:15. It's the 801/2 which is the only option for the Azuma on the new Edinburgh to Glasgow timetable.
801/2 - 9 car Azuma Electric - with single backup diesel engine. Thanks to parder#4923 for confirming this - not on my console just now so couldn't get the time
1W22 - London Kings Cross to Stirling on the updated Edinburgh Glasgow timetable (departs Edinburgh Waverley at 19:21). Set in August with light clouds for a nice little sunset run up to Polmont with the 801.
On the spreadsheet! It looks like all I need to do to get the Sprinter timetable is buy the 158. Busy timetables are my favorite part of TSW, so I suspect I will be breaking down soon and get this one. In the meantime, it looks like I finally need to start running WCML South. For those entries which came prior to the new WCML South timetable, I designated them as "Original Timetable" runs. I can't imagine that adding more services took away from these runs, but you never know. So, as people run them in the new timetable, I would appreciate a post here to say that they are still awesome! Everything should be up to date as we approach 300 TSW 3-5 recommended services with 13 GOATS: noir has complied a list of Matching Services between FTF and KWG (and BRO): https://forums.dovetailgames.com/posts/904330/ Google Published Documents: TSW3-5 Recommended Service Runs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...4lUuBrw-k2_y7FxuzH6mZ1m3Qu4YTfLViTfxQ/pubhtml TSW1-2 Recommended Service Runs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet..._wzt7qTCooxSTBW8pGAwYLs_ohsdDOcQOuZ4A/pubhtml Chaos Runs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...yCTbHVZrwBSBUUkPiiJGlTWfRXexfPn7kBVDw/pubhtml Excel Spreadsheets: TSW3-5 Recommended Service Runs https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...ouid=108028767534258522758&rtpof=true&sd=true TSW1-2 Recommended Service Runs https://drive.google.com/file/d/14YgilvnKZFc7TJXyqftRJ0I5yTMlMf81/view?usp=sharing Chaos Runs https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cMKrwNA2OmZz8tVEQo1_FZnRZXpNT463/view?usp=sharing
I just played train 4800 part 1 and 2 with the M9 on LIRR 2.0. The run starts at Long Island City and you run an 8 car set over to Jamaica and then reverse and couple up to a spare 2 car unit in the sidings. There are a few manual switches that needs to be set. Overall a nice run using other trackage than the trunk of services. Highly recommend it!
lol, just took the ‘wrong’ 2P03 on it was very good none the less. I was wondering where the Azuma went! The one I took got in at just before 07:20. Has lots of traffic on approach to Glasgow, and a red signal while you await a clear path to your platform
WCML South with HKA Hopper pack: 6L11 Dowlow Briggs Sdgs - Bow East Good one to learn defensive driving on; following a stopping train the whole way and at peak times so plenty of AI.
I'll throw in 0S45 (shunting move at Preston) directly followed by 1S45 (Preston-Carlisle "all shacks") on the WCML: Preston-Carlisle with all layers. Spoiler You can watch the class 08 putting your train together whilst shunting at Preston. If you don't shunt like a madman (sticking to the speed limits should be enough), a DMU from Blackpool will get priority over you at the northern end of Preston which will throw you right into a chaos run as you can't make it onto your train for departure and the signaller gives priority to 2P43 (DMU, booked to depart just 15 seconds after your service). You will then follow the DMU to Lancester building up about 10 minutes worth of delay in the process and Preston PSB might even put a Freightliner train in front of you or hold you for a train from the Morecambe branch to arrive. Even if you did your best to make up time until Carlisle you will be held outside whilst the signaller tries to sort out the chaos there (I haven't had the patience to find out if it is a gridlock or just takes a lot of time yet).
I've suggested an RB51 run on Frankfurt-Fulda earlier, which nicely interacts with an RE50. I now did the corresponding RE50 run and was slightly but signifcantly different than expected. FFA: RE50 (4544) Frankfurt Main Hbf - Fulda 17:48 on the Steuerwagen 7662 - started from the expert timetable. The run will be delayed at several occasions. Be attentive, know the signals (check how to handle ZS1) and keep the PZB limits in mind. Spoiler: There will be several encounters and PZB action... Before you can leave Ffm Hbf, you need to wait for a crossing ICE. You can nearly compensate for the inital delay until Hanau. On the 3-track section after Hanau, you overtake the RB51 and are stopped at Langenselbold to let ICE70 pass. Now, the dispatcher will be in a different mood than when doing the RB51 run and will place you behind the RB51 until Wächtersbach: Expect a sudden yellow followed by a red while running at 160 km/h. Then, try to smooth out the ride while following the RB51. While going uphill, you're holding up ICE 594. If you expect to let it pass in Bad Soden-Salmünster - no! The dispatcher urges you to leave and further compensate your delay - to the discomfort of the ICE driver and passengers. He'll know why he's doing it - don't ask, hurry up! To finally let ICE 594 pass, expect to be led onto the siding in Schlüchtern. Be careful at the entry signal and correctly handle the Ersatzsignal ZS1. There has been sufficient buffer to nearly compensate your delay, so proceed to Fulda via Flieden and Neuhof. An RE51 is following you whithout stops, so don't hesitate too much. Before you can enter Fulda on track 1, there is another red to let a freight train cross tracks. After finally arriving in Fulda, do the subsequent depot run and clear the platform for the RE51 which has been waiting for you.
Tried this. Got to the shunt line north of Preston and everything came to a complete stop. Nothing moved.
I tried 1P06 as a stand-alone by selecting it from the timetable menu. Enjoyable though it was (an 87 with just 5 coaches is pretty lively) I didn’t overtake a freight train or get overtaken by an express. I had all layers active, and did the run in December. I wonder what the difference was.
Yeah I just had the same on PS5 where 2J58 is stuck in my path to couple to my formation. 1A28 also stops at a red outside Preston for no reason. I know the spoiler mentions about other trains being given priority by the dispatcher. When are things meant to move?
So had another go and the only way to proceed was to delete 2J58. Otherwise, it runs exactly as described up to Lancaster so far. So looking forward to finishing it! Edit: You could probably get the same effect if you just started from Preston and and left a few minutes late.
P510 with the CTC-5 cabcar on Boston ‐ Worcester. Starts out as a clear run, but you catch up with another train as you get closer to Boston.
I don't drive a lot of freight, but 4M51 Carlisle - Preston is an interesting overnight run, with a single 87, a heavy freightliner train, and some signal checks to contend with. Spoiler I suspect this one depends a lot on the railhead conditions. I drove it in the snow, and it was...interesting. We got brought down to a red soon after departing Carlisle. Once it cleared, getting the train moving again on the rising gradient was a heck of a job. If I took enough power to move the train in a forward direction, I had too much power to maintain adhesion. Eventually I got it moving, and then crept forward, taking one notch at a time, trying to avoid wheelslip. It took me a good 5 minutes to get above 10mph, and by the time the brief flat sections at Southwaite and Plumpton had allowed me get up any real speed, the prospect of an on-time arrival at Preston was long gone. I had greens until around Milnthorpe (between Oxenholme and Carnforth) and there we caught up what seemed to be a 60mph freight, which we followed, riding the yellows, to Preston - where we arrived 22 minutes late. I don't like to use the map to look at what I'm following (it's not something a real driver can do) so I don't know whether the train I followed from Milnthorpe to Preston was the same train which caused the red at Carlisle, and my very slow re-start from the red meant it took me that long to re-catch it. If so, if I'd been right behind and following it all the way, would it have been looped somewhere? That seems unlikely (I'm not sure the TSW 'dispatcher' is that intelligent?), but it's the only way a right time arrival at Preston would be possible. I'd be interested to hear someone else's experience, in better railhead conditions. Either way, it was an enjoyable and atmospheric run. By good chance, a photographer was braving the cold at Lancaster, and caught a snap as we kicked up the snow passing through on the middle road.
Thanks for posting this. I assume it was on WCML OS with the 101 2 car. I ran close to on time and didn't encounter the container train. Do you remember if you were running late after the first stop?
