Enough Is Enough!!!

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  1. marcsharp2

    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

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    Er yes and no.

    It runs to Newhaven Harbour and then ECS to Newhaven Marine. I'm not sure if it still occurs in reality though.
     
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  2. ididntdoit

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    Yes I think the remains of the station was demolished a few years ago. Geoff Marshall done a video of the ghost train back in 2011.
     
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  3. Doomotron

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    The station was destroyed but the siding is still there.
     
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  4. nwp1

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    l would be interested in SimRail on console, but like TSW because of the uk routes!
     
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  5. Doomotron

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    Searchlight are developing a US route for SimRail already, but I think a busy UK mainline like the GEML or WCML would be amazing in SimRail. I love dispatching in SimRail, but the current main route doesn't have many interesting areas to be a signaller.
     
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  6. denis

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    Kozlow signal box is a real challenge
     
  7. Doomotron

    Doomotron Well-Known Member

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    The trouble is that most of the signal boxes aren't, at least earlier on.
     
  8. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Also the Searchlight US route for SimRail seems to have stalled as regards much in the way of updates and sure I’ve seen speculation that it’s even still happening. Hopefully it does, though god knows how much it will cost given the price of their TSC add ons!
     
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  9. ludwigtails

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    that sadly is the case... at least what the case is compared to TSW, you can at least drive from London to Scotland all the way through, even in one sitting. Compared to TSW? They can't be bothered because "time" and "cost"
     
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  10. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Unless you're willing to pay like $500 and wait at least a decade, I won't think dtg will ever create a several hundred mile railway line. While that happens, they can't create any other dlc
     
  11. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    They don't have to spend all their time on it and do nothing else.

    There is such a thing as working on more than one project at a time.
     
  12. OldVern

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    Anyone who has the DTG/TSW Facebook feed subscribed notice they seem to have gone into overdrive today?! No doubt to try and drum up business.

    Strange there are staff to do that but no one to post on the forum in response to the various issues people are having…
     
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  13. Class156

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    We’ve spent the money already Vern, they want fresh wallets!
     
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  14. OldVern

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    Good point, well made...
     
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  15. Jpantera

    Jpantera Well-Known Member

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    The marketing budget must be huge, fireside chats, social media reach, massive reveal movies. Those of us who simply want to thrash an old diesel on a decent route are being left behind in a sea of exclamation marks and spin.
     
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  16. addry#6825

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    Fulda just crashed on me. Again.
     
  17. Doomotron

    Doomotron Well-Known Member

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    If only the money they spend on the revolving door for the constantly changing community managers was spent on fixing the core issues of TSW...
     
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  18. tootyhoot

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    If you uninstall old routes does that stop the rolling stock from appearing as layers in more modern routes? I always wondered that.
     
  19. tootyhoot

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    Because they are quick and easy to make and so make more profit probably.
     
  20. tootyhoot

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    I think a happy medium is the solution. The length of WCMLS for a Pendo was not it.
     
  21. tootyhoot

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    Thanks for the info, I just wondered what the SP experience is like now? When I first bought it there wasn’t much more than training.
     
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  22. OldVern

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    There are several scenarios but some of these run in excess of two hours so without a means of saving the game, you need to be able/prepared to sit at your PC for the long haul.
     
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  23. OldVern

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    I believe it does, as unlike TSC the stock is bundled in the DLC pak file.
     
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  24. noir

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    There are people in the community who were even famous for specifically driving the same service every day (Cora and her 14129), driving for 4 hours across the whole map interested in how it will be different this time and if they can make it on schedule.

    SP continues to be a testbed for things that are not yet suitable for multiplayer - shunting, backdated map set into 1980s, steam trains. However, devs generally give you just the tools - maps and vehicles, but only couple basic scenarios there, leaving the gameplay part (scenarios) on the community for the moment, while they focus on improving multiplayer and bringing the next DLC.
     
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  25. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Yes. If you don't have it installed, you won't see it.
     
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  26. Jpantera

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    Which is starting to be a Disk space issue for myself. Maybe that's why there is only one Dosto type made for TSW
     
  27. tootyhoot

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    Thanks. So I need to do some detective work before removing an old route to see if most, at least, of the rolling stock is available elsewhere.
     
  28. tootyhoot

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    And way too many bloody 66’s! Pardon my French.
     
  29. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    They could do with a better system for it to be honest. Its hard to keep track of what goes where and what it adds to a route.
     
  30. tft#6439

    tft#6439 Well-Known Member

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    This thread has been active for 1 year, 6 months and 21 days, let that sink in.
     
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  35. SeventeenF

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    Seeing how the new Pfälzische Ludwigsbahn DLC sits at 38% (Mostly Negative) on Steam, I decided to visit this legendary thread and read all the outrage, only to find... nothing.

    13 reviews after the first day is extremely low, so my question is: do people simply not buy the newest slop anymore? I mean, I'm definitely waiting for at least 50% off on this one, but surely there are hardcore fans remaining for DTG to milk, right? Right?
     
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  36. OldVern

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    I get the vibe quite a few are not bothering with this route…
    1. Because of the stealth price increase of a short route with no new rolling stock to £30.
    2. The generally poor impression from the streams and preview.
    3. It doesn’t offer much we don’t already have for Germany. They have saturated the sim with these 70km inter urban type routes.
    4. It is hotly pursued by the awesome looking Mittenwaldbahn.
     
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  37. Strat-tastic

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    Enough is apparently not enough ;)
     
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  38. 21c164fightercommand

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    to me, it shows the growing discontent and continued frustration with TSW and the way DTG's handles the game
     
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  39. ididntdoit

    ididntdoit Well-Known Member

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    After 1 year 6 months and 21 days, has dtg listened though?
     
  40. denis

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    Personally, I stopped buying add-ons after the release of TSW 4. I don't see any point in having a huge pile of one-time addons in this state of the game where there is no idea of further development. In addition, another problem is looming more and more - the game has begun to consume a lot of disk space just for the sake of locos you have to keep a bunch of boring and useless, overpriced routes.
    TSW seems to me to be more and more rather outdated.....
     
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  41. Jpantera

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    I have mentioned this already. Re Disk space. Also the fact that routes are smaller and excuses/marketing bigger than ever. There needs to be consideration that TSW will one day finish it's course and then everyone's wallets will be expected to open again starting from scratch.
     
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    no
     
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  43. 85hertz

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    I feel like the earlier days of TSW were much more exciting, even if the routes were less complex in some ways and you didn't have the fancy adverts we see today.

    I played the CSX route recently as it has always been sitting there in my library and even though it is one of the oldest routes in the game I think it holds up really well. It feels like the developers poured their hearts into it while developing the DLC. I only feel like that has been replicated by JT (from playing) and TSG (from watching).

    I feel like the magic was lost from TSW4 onwards.
     
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  44. tootyhoot

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    I certainly wouldn’t after the WCMLS debacle, what’s the point if they release half baked routes? Only possible exception would be dlc by JT.
     
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    Yes now we have a never ending conveyor belt of dlc with more thought on what they can fit into it from stuff already done than appeal to the customers.
     
  46. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Well, the first post complained about having to pay again for another game. Then we got a free option the following year.

    DTG are slowly catching on.
     
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    It started with a rant about TSW4, and now we're at 5, with the same bugs.
     
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  48. ididntdoit

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    I wouldn't class it as paying for another game. Even if you just go for the basic 3 new routes and nothing else, you are getting your money's worth.

    What annoys me the most is having to download all my content again year after year. You don't see the same thing happening with tsc every time.

    It's not like it's a small download anymore, if you own everything.
    I don't know if not finding a better way to upgrade is down to pure laziness or they would rather keep churning out routes to get our money.
     
  49. SeventeenF

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    I'm starting to think that DTG should wind down being a first-party developer and mostly become a publisher of 3rd party content. Keep a skeleton crew of developers to patch the core simulation aspects and let the various 3rd parties support their own DLCs. Tell Rivet and the like to go pound sand and do quarterly releases from quality devs (JT, TSG, Union Workshop come to mind). Quality over quantity. The current release schedule is way too busy anyway.

    When Focus took over, I was hoping that they would do something similarly radical to clean DTG's house. However, it's been over a year, and they seem to be content with the current managed decline.
     
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  50. Tigert1966

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    This new German DLC is the first one I haven’t bought. I don’t need it, I have more than enough DLC to last me a long time.

    I’m not bothered by the lack of new rolling stock. I’m not even bothered by the price. Due to being on Steam and in Switzerland, I pay around 33% more than US/UK prices anyway. I’m numb to it now.

    The reason I haven’t bought it is an increasing lack of quality. I thought the list of known issues was too long to start with. But then on the stream a lot more showed up. They weren’t even trying to hide it. There was zero enthusiasm on the stream from the presenters in my opinion.

    I’ve managed to enjoy TSW a lot in the past and I still love the game. I even enjoyed WCML South despite its faults. But I’m done paying for blatantly unfinished DLC. I’ll watch this and see what fixes come, of what price reductions it gets. But for now, no sale.

    Looking forward to TSG’s new release and will continue to follow what Just Trains do. They’ll both continue to get my money. But for DTG routes I’m going to be a lot more selective.
     
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