I've said it many times as have others, the English Riviera from Exeter to Paignton, with hopefully the line to Plymouth added
anything more modern with at least 60 mph (or less but that would have to be like subway or sth)... that Chiltern thing in some other thread with diesel train at like 90-100 mph looked neat
What I wouldn't give to see a TSW rendition of Riviera in the Fifties, but obviously its not going to happen as they aren't doing steam anymore and any historical route will be set in the 80s at the earliest.
Inverness hub in the late 70's out to Dingwall, Aviemore and maybe Forres with a Class 26. Fort William to Mallaig with Class 27, but regardless of era this probably a none starter due to low service frequency. Newcastle Suburban network, pre Metro - Tynemouth Loop plus Quayside, South Shields and Sunderland. The Class 101 stands ready to serve (maybe with better engine sounds). Blackpool Tramway, in the heritage era. North Wales Coast, ideally Chester all the way to Holyhead but Llandudno an acceptable compromise. Cambrian Coast Machynlleth to Pwllheli. Oxted Lines, East Croydon to East Grinstead and Uckfield plus Eridge to Tunbridge Wells, pre electrification Thumper Class 205 and 207 era. A section of the route from Portsmouth to Bristol, Class 33 era. Bristol local network - Weston SM to Bath, Bristol Parkway and Severn Beach. As mentioned, Riviera Line Exeter to Paignton. Rework WCL to unRivet it and extend through to Plymouth. The two railways that used to run on Jersey (bit far fetched that one). Manx Electric.
Personally I’m biding my time for JT to do a BR era North Wales Coastal. That being said, I also wouldn’t mind a more modern version, though with 175’s rather than 197’s. Would also like to see Chester-Manchester & Liverpool-Manchester via Warrington. A nice regional DMU run with a little spacing between stops.
West Highland Line, Fort William to Mallaig or Oban to Crianlarich. And as collectable, please put this little representative on it. Thanks.
If I had to pick a few in particular to see come to fruition in TSW these would be my choices. WCML North: The full 100 or so miles from Glasgow Central to Carlisle. With the WCML overshap from JT, it only makes sense to make it a reality. To keep the scope sensible however, I wouldn't expect any of the suburban Glasgow routes to be included, though I can't see the harm in adding the branch to Lanark. Speaking of Suburban Glasgow... Suburban Glasgow: Glasgow has got a vast suburban line network to tap into for TSW. The North Clyde and Argyle Lines are what I grew up with, so I'd love to see the suburban Glasgow lines come to TSW in some way. If I had to pick a particular section, I'd like the North Clyde line running from Helensburgh/Milngavie to Airdrie. For time periods I'm admittedly split. On one hand, modern Era would allow the 390 to stretch it's legs fully on the WCML and take full advantage of the layers Glasgow Central already has, but on the other hand, an Intercity Class 90 with a MK3 DVT would be fab. Suburban Glasgow is the same. Modern era would allow the 334 (a train never seen in TSW or TSC) with the potential for a 320 or 318 later on. But setting it in the 90s or something would bring the likes of the 303 as well as allowing the older orange and black 320s and 318s to be possible additions too. I really don't know which of these two to pick admittedly, nor the time periods. Either way, I'd be happy if either of these routes were to come to fruition in some way or another.
Still hoping for the East Coastway to get modernised and extended to either Ore or at a push Ashford International to get the 171’s in!
South wales mainline but won’t happen in the near future so maybe Southampton and Bournemouth to Portsmouth harbour or shrewsbury to Birmingham.
The East Suffolk line with RETB signalling and maybe an original liveried 156, or anything Network South East.
Southampton to Weymouth set in the 90's with Wessex electrics in NSE livery, bonus points if the Weymouth Tramway is included
As per my signature, Durham Coast Line or Newcastle - York (or both combined ) in the GNER/Northern Spirit era. It'll never happen due to licensing, sadly. I'd take it in the very twilight years of BR (1994-97) though.
Something back down in third rail land - South London Network/North Kent Line, Bexleyheath Line & Dartford Loop or something similar with a new EMU to bulk out the Southern/Southeastern stock we already have. As long as it's a dense network with a few different places to go, I'll be happy. Likewise up in Scotland, I'd like to echo Scotrail170's exact pitch and call for a Glasgow suburban DLC (though I'd prefer it just to be modern myself), plus a 67 or 92 doing Caledonian Sleeper diagrams. Finally (because it'll now be the only UK country not to be represented in TSW yet) anything in Northern Ireland!
South West Trains, as long as it isn't cut off at Woking, or the route is far enough from Waterloo so it doesn't matter that it doesn't go to London, if that makes sense.
…favourite’s gotta be English Riviera (by Just Trains obvs.)…AND most of the stock already exists ! (add a 25 & China Clay Hoods) Personally, Woofferton to Bewdley…it could happen !
Not just a local line but one of the most scenic approaches into London with all the skyscrapers, canals etc
Settle - Carlisle in the 1930s with LMS Black 5 and 3F Jinty, in addition to the 8F and Jubilee with fixed physics of course. Maybe the Black Five and the Coronation Class as DLCs later on. Or the Riviera Line in the 50s again, with Hall Class and Pannier Tank. With that we would finally get some GWR locos for WSR.
Let's hope with the nationalisation of the railways and the establishment of GBR, that we will finally get the LTS in game. DTG have a really good working relationship with the DfT, so fingers crossed... The LTS is a perfect, self contained, network that could include the entirety of the line from end to end. It's one of my personal top 3 requested routes. I'd like third rail land to be revisited again, a South Eastern Main Line: London Charing Cross to Hastings for a decent length route with the inclusion of a 375/6. Or a SouthEastern Network: London Charing Cross to Sevenoaks (via Orpington) & Dartford (via Sidcup), with the inclusion of the BREL Class 465/0.
The problem is the total length of the C2C network will be over 60 miles something I doubt DTG will be willing to develop by looking at their patterns, no route exceeds over 50 miles usually unless it's long distance high speed like ECML. There's also alot of stations on the C2C network which will also include the District and Hammersmith & City Line stations. Don't forget DTG did state station developments also contributes how much length the route can be taking into development costs and time.
This, 100%. I've said it a hundred times, but this route would be perfect for those who want a complete route that takes 1 hour and a bit, with multiple options (3 different ways, plus semi-fast and all-stops). No need to cut short artificially.
Personally I believe it is perfectly achievable to include the entire route, and don't believe it's an unreasonable expectation! Look at London to Brighton for example, it's a dense packed route and for its time it was a cracker. Unfortunately it has started to show it's age now. You get a few routes that really pay there way in terms of playability and the LTS certainly feels like that it could be one of those given the opportunity.
Tees Valley expanded to Bishop Auckland. 90's Durham Coast Line get Pacers, 156, and BR Trans-Penine 158's. Sunderland Docks had 60's with oil tankers to the FINA terminal. In Seaham, and East Durham 37's and 56's were pulling coal trains I used to see 08's going across the rail bridge in South Hetton with the old coal trucks. Middlesbrough to Whitby add North York Moors Railway alongside.
I was going to say this - but in addition the full "network" including coast line, esk valley, tees valley (all the way to stanhope), stillington branch, ashington, scarborough, etc... a man can dream right? I do also agree with others the entire C2C network would be brilliant.
Including Durham Coast line would be good, and hopefully workable. I don't know enough about the other lines to comment, but I feel ashington line would work better alongside NCL -> EDB (though can understand this may not work re length)
Manchester-Liverpool with 150s and 156s, including Allerton TMD Hope Valley Line in the modern Northern era, an excellent opportunity for JT to bring this to TSW Manchester-Southport with the 769, 150s and 156s BR Blue East Lancs Line (BR blue, could be food for thought for JT to build on their BPB success!)
I'll say Doncaster to Leeds, with the 331 and IC225. Both can layer onto ECML, as well as layering from a potential Northern 150/2 (although only goes as far as Adwick, train could possibly layer here once it gets its own route). Route hopping can also take effect at both Doncaster (for ECML) and Leeds (for NTP).
I have said it before and I say it again Chiltern Mainline would be a day one purchase for me, a bit long I know at 100 miles, but a good thrash in a class 68 with a rake of Mk3s and a DVT would be a dream.
I have fond memories of the Riviera Line and the West Highland Line (especially the part over Rannoch) on TSC, so I'd love to see those routes in TSW. For a more urban environment, I guess London - Peterborough can be a quite interesting route. Also, TSC's Corris Railway was kinda cute. Quite short, but an interesting drive.
Maerdy was quite good, well Return To Maerdy though I always ran out of juice with the battery loco. I ended up cloning the scenarios and subbing in the Class 14 Teddy Bear instead. Much more satisfactory to work with. The Malmesbury Branch also was a nice backwater to chug around in, but similar exercise for TSW would require DTG to reinvest themselves in steam traction.
I'm not personally against the idea of including the full c2c network in TSW, I think it'll be a great route to drive. Though I'd like to be more realistic. DTG from most of their past routes has never exceeded the 50 mile length with some few exceptions. Those are mainly Kassel to Warzburg and ECML, however those have one main difference, they have a lot less stations compared to WCML South with about 30 stations in total, I can also bring a similar case of BML being a similar length and has a similar amount of stations. DTG are also very resource and time constraint unlike other third party developers which is likely why they won't like exceed this limit. In particular if they were to develop the full c2c network. If I had to like predict what sort of routes they'll make for the next UK core route willceither be London Liverpool Street to Colchester or St Pancras International to Bedford. I chose those two routes because they are the two like flagship UK routes that I think will be a good selling point from a worldwide perspective. They could go for another route in Northern England but I doubt like it as much as a London Route is where the main flagship routes are and are among the most recognised.
Take a browse through Suggestions forum and it would quicker to list lines that have not been suggested!
If they were to cover the GEML, it'd have to go to Ipswich to appeal to someone like me, it's a natural conclusion. Norwich would certainly be stretching it, but Colchester is underwhelming. Ipswich is in the 'Goldy Lock Zone' so to speak. St Pancras to Bedfords a very realistic expectation and covers somewhat of the Thameslink route as well as some IC services.
Metropolitan line Piccadilly line or Chiltern Mainline would be good editions SVR and KWVR would be lovely heritage offerings.
My hopes: 1) Chiltern Railways: Marylebone-Banbury(Oxford?) or Marylebone-Aylesbury. Stock included (depends on which route): Class 68+Mk3a+Mk3 DVT, Class 168s , Class 165/0 and LU S Stock. Link: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...anbury-or-aylesbury-choose-your-layout.88238/ 2) c2c (LTS network): Fenchurch Street-Shoeburyness (via Basildon or Grays). Stock included: Class 357, Class 720 and Class 66 (many freight opportunities). 3) Riviera Line: Exeter to Paignton (1980s). Stock Included: Class 43 HST+Mk3 (Valenta), Class 50 + most of BR stock already ingame. Maybe a new 1st gen DMU? 4) Settle to Carlisle (Northern era): Class 158 and Class 156 DMUs + Class 66. As well as a wide range of railtour possibilities. 5) West Highland Line (ScotRail/BR era): Gasgow Queen Street-Crianlarich or Crianlarich-Oban. Stock Included (depends on era): Class 156+Class 153 or Class 27+ Class 37 (new variant). Link: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...reet-to-crianlarich-new-scotrail-route.84112/ 6) Scottish East Coast Main Line: Dundee to Aberdeen. Stock included: Class 43HST+Mk3 (MTU), Class 170, Class 158 and Class 66 (Maybe IET 800 LNER DLC?). Link: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...-dundee-to-aberdeen-new-scotrail-route.87815/ 7) Ayrshire Coast/Glasgow South Western: Glasgow Central-Ayr (via Irvine),Glasgow Central-Ayr (via Kilmarnock)+East Kilbride, Glasgow Central-Largs+Androssan Harbour. Stock included (depends on which layout): Class 380 and Class 156. 8) Borders Railway: Waverley to Tweedbank. Stock included: Class 158 and Class 170. 9) Woodhead DC Line (BR era): Manchester-Sheffield Via Penistone + Wath and Glossop. Stock included: Class 76/77, Class 506 + part of BR/LNER stock already ingame. Link: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...field-via-penistone-wath-1969-br-route.88701/ 10) Anything Welsh: Welsh Marches, Cambrian, North/South Wales Mainline etc... Link: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...port-to-hereford-cardiff-new-tfw-route.88997/ No preference order !
For proper retro, the Great Central Railway but shortly before closure, so Rugby Central-Nottingham Arkwright Street, DMUs aplenty.
Western Lines of Scotland (Stranraer to Carlisle) Wisbech and Upwell Tramway Somerset & Dorset Joint Railway Set in Edwardian times, when passenger numbers & track mileage were at there peak, circa 1906.
Chester to Holyhead, 1993. 37s, 101s, 142s, 150s ,156s, 158s, HSTs, 47s, 31s. Something for everyone. I strongly believe JTs Blackpool line was a hit as it has Pacers and BR blue stuff No need to be stuck with one era of traction.
I am more of a modern stock fan, tho I also like to play with locos/trains that are vintage/retro, but still used in modern times, of course with modern timetable... like BR 111 or BR 218 (German locos), they are quite old, but still working their services... so I wouldnt mind older stock, but on more modern setting, also with modern safety systems (I kinda like Northern Transpennine, but some stock there not having proper AWS kinda sucks)
