Ts20: The Train That Wouldn’t Quit

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  1. TrainSim-James

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    Built as a stop-gap measure to temporarily increase capacity, the Pacer family has made itself known to many for their bumpy ride on the rails and their unexpected longevity in service. With their retirement finally on the horizon, it is time to look back at the beginning of their career with our new BR Class 142 for Train Simulator!

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  2. iAspex

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    Interesting to see the comparison between Armstrong Powerhouse's 142 and DTG's. Would also like to hear the sounds
     
  3. Schnauzahpowahz

    Schnauzahpowahz Well-Known Member

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    Talk about out of left field :D
     
  4. Wivenswold

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    Ooooh, I like this. Better than the AP version (and I'm usually happy with their stuff).

    Though obviously I'd be even happier to see some of the gaping holes in TS traction, new EMUs and AC slam door stock, I think this is a worthwhile duplication. May also point towards DTGs next route, though surely one with OHL is overdue. But for now, nice one DTG.
     
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    From experience they don't normally do that... Even if this opens up a whole world of Southern Wales, Northern and even SouthWestern routes I don't remember DTG releasing a consist and then the routes for it later
     
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  6. trainman10000

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    the store page says "as built condition", if thats so why isnt the original mechanical transmision audible and why does it have the same cummins engine sounds as the riviera 143
     
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    And why does it have the TPWS box?
     
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    Why is this better than the AP/Waggonz version?
     
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    Maybe the exterior textures but other than that its a joke compared to AP's version.
     
  10. Wivenswold

    Wivenswold Well-Known Member

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    It looks better inside and out. I'm a Southerner so I have limited knowledge of how they sound in real life. So for me, I prefer it to the AP version and it opens up Workshop possibilities.
     
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    There are two faults as it is modelled in as built condition
    [1] the engine and gearbox has the later cummings engine and final drive instead of the Leyland Engine and Self Changing Gearbox.
    [2] in the cab is a DRA and a TPWS set up which did not come in to use until many years later

    But at least you can use the unit with the one livery in Workshop Scenarios rather than the AP version with it's 11 liveries.
    There are much better scenarios away from the Workshop that don't crash the game

    Peter
     

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