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The "Angry mob" Just want a good quality product that works well and that will have good post release support to fix any issues that come up. The angry mob just want the game to be as good as it can be.

I wouldn't have an issue with Rivet working on stuff if they listened to feedback, focused a little more on post release support and put some care and attention into what they do a little more like some of the other third party Devs

Again I'm not saying you should or shouldn't buy it that's completely your choice. I want this to be good and I want to buy it! But I'll wait to see what the preview stream has to offer

 

If the preview stream is good, the gameplay is varied, the timetable is all there, the lack of passengers is dealt with, the game doesn't crash and the blurry textures are sorted then I don't give a stuff who developed it, I will be buying it...... If any/ some/ all of these are borked then I don't give a stuff who developed it, I won't and will continue to not until these things are fixed.

Currently, Mildmay was done by a great developer, looks lovely but I was mugged by a good preview stream and can't complete a service on PS5 without a crash so it's as useful a DLC to me as a chocolate fireguard!

 

I bought mildmay route aswell no crashes but my God its horrible so blurry and jumpy kept freezing so disappointed they need to start testing regular consoles and pcs

 

Will the 150/2 be able to couple up to other unit in game like 142 and 170 and the 153

 

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it said on the announcement post - I'll check for you now.

 

Yes and it also will couple to the 158 sprinter also

 

Ah, you beat me to it!

 

Lol for once WiFi working properly lol hope you enjoy preview of your watching it at 7pm

 

Can't wait to hear how they pronounce the station names later ....see if they butcher them more than they did in the announcement

 

Haha, make the most of it!!

 

Yeah, should be interesting.. probably slightly triggering and all; considering I live in Wales - North Wales, but Wales nonetheless...

 

South Wales >>

 

Thanks I will can’t wait to hear roar of the class 153 Cummins engines lol

 

You and me both.. If they do it right!

 

Will the depot near ninian park be accessible

 

Canton? Most likely but heard there's no grass or vegetation as per real life!

 

The 153 sounds amazing

 

I watched parts of the stream. I noticed a lot of errors like some strange shadow artifacts. The second thing was tall grass that penetrated the train chassis. I'll pass. I'm just surprised that they're making a stream and you can see all these imperfections.

 

Thoughts on the stream....

The 150 and 153 models are good.
153 sounds are good.
150 sounds are mediocre/rehashed
Timetable is decent, good variety.
AI / Layers seems appropriate.
Station assets are good.
Some of the scenery is questionable/low effort.
Trees and vegetation popping in, a big no no.
Distant Scenery is minimalistic.

 

Like the Amy Winehouse song goes:

"They said we won't go to rivet but dtg said go, go go"

 

excuse me hold up the 150 model is good ?

yeah OK the passenger interior that is it its still a model form TSW 2 remember

 

Yeah I know that there are no layers, I just wanted to make sure that ALL services for the 150 and 153 are there, and not some scaled down covid-like timetable. We gen8 players would still like some traffic along the route...

 

l watched the stream and the route is no where near the standard of recent efforts from JTs or Johannes and others. Looking at some of the buildings they are certainly done by Rivet as they look like some that are in Fife Circle completely different from those in the real life route. I will be buying the route as l liked the locomotives, but I am disappointed that Rivet have been involved.

 

It has so much potential and there was so much that was done right! The 153 is great the timetable looks good the depot had so much stock. I just hope someone can desperately do a Passover on some of that scenery. There's no clutter/foliage around the depot and Cardiff. Some of the buildings are basic low res models, Whitchurch has a horrible copy pasted hedgerow on one side and no scenery on the other.

But the frustrating thing is that in some areas the scenery was actually good!

 

I thought that there were a lot of trees along the route to replace the actual scenery like in WCL and not a lot of attention to detail. More trackside clutter was also needed as the detail along the track looked so smart and pristine and they have made it look like a new route just laid. I may be being over critical but it didn’t look like a Just Trains route or one done by DTG and looked well below the recent standards. I will know better when l have it in my hands, but from watching the stream l wasn’t really impressed at all, especially with the work around the Principality Stadium an area l know fairly well.

 

What struck me during the stream:

- Mediocre design, a typical DTG route with the same vegetation look and bare textures. It simply doesn't look any different, like so many recent routes. I can't understand why DTG's quality fluctuates so drastically. They recently demonstrated their ability to create good vegetation (that was quite a while ago!) with the Goblin Line. But here they're back to the level of the Main Valley or Left Rhine Line.

- Some of the buildings look very simple; elsewhere I read that they were probably designed by Rivet (probably the worst option). The entire design suggests that this is a work by Rivet, released under the DTG label.

- And the next recurring theme: sound. DTG simply can't produce a decent (diesel) sound. With the pitched recordings, it sounds like a canned/cell phone, which ultimately ruins a lot of the immersion (the same issue with the 642).

In short: No, it doesn't convince me. And more and more DTG DLC doesn't convince me because I'm simply tired of spending so much money on such average and lackluster quality. Sorry.

And if Rivet now hides behind DTG and no longer releases its own DLC, that's another reason for concern for me. I think that's completely the wrong approach.

 

It's funny that they ignore the series S because Matt has one in his office and is constantly saying that he loves the series S but they completely ignore it for new releases. Maybe it's about time they had more series S beta testers that they give a full route timetable and layer list too that the beta testers can find out what does and doesn't work on the console and report back

 

Im on series x and total agree with you.

 

I got bored watching the stream.
Didn't like how some of the textures were loading in the video - think it's a core thing - and there's just something off about the scenery on the route that I can't put my finger on.
And either my memory from real-life is tricking me or Cardiff Central is too quiet (I would guess it's because certain trains don't exist in TSW).

Still, it wasn't a route I was planning to get anyway. I was only watching to see if it's something I'd get at a later date in a sale.

 

Certainly not worth the £30 price tag No added Layers apart from the RHTT train the rest is AI Freight & GWE services (Confirmed).
I am Starting to get the impression that we are paying more for Less?

 

Just looking on the left of that picture already confirms to me that Rivet have had apart of that route as I swear that exact same building is on FCL.

 

l thought the same thing. Obvious that Rivet have used such poor offerings from the past.

 

Beforehand I was looking forward to this route and was keen to buy it. Now Ive watched the stream, I'm less enthusiastic. Best part of it is 153, but Im not paying £30 just for that. I've a feeling that if Just Trains had developed this route it would be more engaging and better built. They are way ahead of others including DTG for route development, in my opinion.

 

If JT would of built it it would look amazing and would probably go to Barry Island where this route should of gone

 

Wow the route would of been stunning I can imagine it

 

If Just Trains had done it, we would have got the whole Valley Lines plus freight branches, the SWML to Bridgend then the Maesteg branch, plus the VOG for diversions. Now that would have been worth £30, actually £33 not this glorified model railway they are trying to sell us.

We would also have got the routes in the mid 80’s when freight was still thriving, coal trains with 37’s on them, maybe a 56 on iron ore workings up the main line, oh and being able to take trains to and from the opencast wilderness at Cwmbargoed.

 

Absolutely just look at Blackpool branches and Preston to Carlisle amazing routes the detail is out of this world I would happily pay £30 for routes like that anyday cause they are worth every penny

 

This route would have been absolutely amazing if Just Trains had developed it. Recent offerings from DTG although not up to Just Trains standards, have been pretty good recently. It is obvious from the ropy scenery that there is definitely involvement with Rivet, which has given cause for concern as we all know their work is shoddy and it shows up again in Cardiff Network. When the route was announced, l had real excitement that we would receive a wonderful offering, but last night’s stream left me flat and disappointed that this route doesn’t inspire me at all.

 

Spot on.

 

DTG Jamie can you please explain why the 150 sounds remains so bad. They were widely criticised for WCML and for Cardiff aren't much better. Given they are obtained from Armstrong PowerHouse (correct me if Im wrong) who do good work, why do they even need re-working? Thanks in advance of a reply.

 

Hi I hope I can shed some light and help you with regards the class 150/2 the sound sources are indeed from AP however the issue at hand was the to put it mildly sloppy and poor implementation/setup of the 150/2 files from AP on the part of whoever did so on the WCL now with the TFW 150/2 dtg wanted a complete new sound set for the 150/2 however unfortunately no 150s we’re available at the time so in mean time Dtg reworked the physics and re mixed the audio and whilst by no means 100% it’s a solution for the time being whilst Dtg look at getting access to a class 150 to do a recording trip to obtain a new sound set the class 153 however completely different as Dtg were able to get help from Scotrail for the class 153
I hope this helps to clarify your points

 

As I’ve said in the other threads, the 150 and 153 sound virtually identical so it should not have been beyond the wit of DTG and Rivet to clone these on to the 150 and adjust Simugraph for the vehicle mass as regards the physics.

 

Why don’t DTG postpone the release of this route until it is highly polished and upto the standard of recently released routes. I am fed up with all the poor quality unfinished Rivet routes and certainly won’t be wanting this in its present state.

 

One word… Stubborness. We have said the same re other routes in the past, but it’s always publish and be damned. Presumably if they pulled it at this stage there would be penalties from the vendors. However it should not be too late to reduce the price to £20 or stick a pre release discount on it. In fact I throw down the challenge to DTG Matt , DTG Alex , DTG Jamie - if you are reading this revise the price down to £20 and I will buy it and give a fair crack of the whip. Otherwise it will be waiting for a sale.

 

Drop it £20 I would buy it and give it a fair chance but thats a slim chance of happening .

 

I said the same about Fife Circle before that was released it was in a terrible mess but it still got released yes it's had patches recently but a route shouldn't be released if it's not finished or acceptable to go especially with the amount you have to pay routes should not be released when they arent finished

 

Just watched the stream - I think it's looking like a fun route, but £30 is a bit steep for what we're getting. For me the replay value doesn't seem that high - I'd enjoy messing about for a while, but it's so reminiscent of Cathcart and Glossop that I know deep down that once I've got over the initial enjoyment exploring these reasonably familiar places all from my PC I'd probably not play it that much. I can get to the real Cardiff (and back!) from where I live in Bath for less than £30 One for the sales I'm afraid.

 

Nothing stopped WCML South being released despite the state the route was in.

 

Well, I finally watched the stream last night. And, despite all the attempts to talk it up and the fact that it's diesel traction, the route is just not that interesting. All the runs looked very similar and very short. And the scenery was tedious and, in places, the buildings reminded me of early MSTS.

Can't see buying this route for more than $15-20, if ever.

 

i was interested in buying this route, but after watching the stream for an hour, i got bored and finding myself beginning to fall asleep. its not very interesting, too slow a route, stop and start, stop and start. graphics not good. teleporting lol. So no buy from me and i might look again in sales. i wish you could of done a more interesting route for wales, as i said this is boring.