Out Now Mittenwaldbahn - Out Now!

I assume you mean E94 088 which was the loco the reference was from, its not really a DB E94, its a 1020 disguised as a E94. There aren't a grand deal of modifications, its got PZB90 obviously, GSM-R instead of Zugbahnfunk, the train brake valves have been swapped out for German Nr.8 manual lapped brake valves. The loco brake valves similarly are swapped out for traditional German ones. On the outside the snowploughs have been removed and the lamps reverted to the old DB styles removable ones. But from a technical point of view its still very much a 1020 with all the improvements the OBB made to them.

 

Although, in fairness, she was DRG E94 088 before she became 1020.10.

 

Perhaps in the next patch, the sound of the Silberling Waggons can be adjusted. When you make your own formation, for example 218+Silberling: The rolling sound of the Silberlings gets so loud, you can't even hear the Engine of the 218 in the Locomotive.
Also the door sounds can be heard in the Locomotive

 

Ok it's not just only with the 218, also in the 1020 at speeds at around 90, you only hear the Silberling rolling sound

 

Again, the more I drive this route the more I love it. However, I do wish - I know it wouldn't have been practical in terms of time, money and man-hours - it could have been possible to introduce actual vintage OBB coaches for the Krokodil. It's rather jarring to see them always pulling a string of silver DB n-Wagen. And while the backdating of the Avm and Bpm coaches was masterfully done (we now have four iterations of these coaches!), they really would only have been seen on the rare IC train on the line, not hauling local branch-line passengers. In the late 70s that role, on the DB end. was pretty much all Silberlinge all the time. So maybe making OBB coaches instead would have been more pragmatic?

 

However, Avm and BPM carriages still cannot be chosen in "spawn a train" mode.
I would really like to know why.


Like these ÖBB carriages?

 

We had always wanted to do an OBB coach it just wasn't practical at the time, it was largley a case of N wagens or nothing. Either which way having the Silberlings will be very useful for us in the future. As far as I'm aware the IC wagens are only used on the proper booked IC services, not on any local trains.

 

Unfortunately not:



I suppose it's possible that someone confused the E (Eilzug) for EC (Eurocity), but in any event those are IC coaches on a local service, and it's by no means the only case.

(IC/EC trains were are are very rare on that route then and now, because anything going to Innsbruck in a hurry takes the main line via Rosenheim)

 

E1728 was the named "Karwendel", the formation was seemingly a bit fluid but one example of its formation was booked as an Avmz, WRmh, 2x Bms, 2x Bpmz
or some other arrangements
https://www.flickr.com/photos/joachimschweiz/37009826131/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/joachimschweiz/35755939656/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cimacapi/28247030632/
very much formed of IC coaches and was very much booked to stop at those stations

 

Well, how about that!

Interesting that an IC would stop at all those little hamlets. Or was this specifically intended as an alpine tourist train?

Ah- the Karwendel was started in 1930 for just that purpose. For a while it was actually a TEE with VT 11.5s! These days it's an ICE service with 411s.

Ya learn something new every day.

 

there were two other sets of named trains on the timetable as well E1782/1783 "Ernst Barlach", and E1788/E1789 "Werdenfesler Land" although they ran only between Garmisch and Seefeld, again stopping at the larger stations again being formed of IC coaches. There was also a sleeper train although I can't remember exactly which number that is now, but thats running with IC coaches in lieu of not having any sleeper coaches.

Once they left or before they arrived on the Mittenwaldbahn they got promoted/demoted running under a different number. Ernst Barlach ran as IC 782/783, "Werdenfesler Land" as FD 1988, 1989, "Karwendel" as IC 128/129.

 

Now it becomes clearer: the E-prefix must have been temporary for the stopping run between Garmisch-P and Innsbruck

 

Trains like this still exist, but not on the Karwendelbahn anymore.
Most famous example is the IC Königssee, which runs Hamburg - Berchtesgaden and back, and runs as an IC between Hamburg and Freilassing and as RE between Freilassing and Berchtesgaden.
Recently it even runs with 111 and is the only train in Germany left with 111+ IC wagons.
With the change from IC to ICE most of these trains became completely ICE or ceased to exist.

https://www.vagonweb.cz/razeni/vlak.php?zeme=DB&kategorie=RE&cislo=2082&nazev=&rok=2025

 

Still, it seems like they have forgotten one train pair of those...IC 784 "Wetterstein" (Mittenwald 8:47-Klais 8:55-Garmisch 9:25) 785 (Garmisch 19:43-Klais 20:17-Mittenwald 20:25).

 

"Wetterstein" is an odd name for a train that goes nowhere near Berchtesgaden

 

Why...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wetterstein...actually the whole mountain group between Garmisch and Seefeld in Tirol are called Wetterstein-mountains.

And well...at least, since 1979 there is a train called "Wetterstein" around Garmisch, so it's somehow a quite traditional train...

 

D'oh! Brainfart- I was thinking of the Watzmann. Of course, the Wetterstein is the main Garmisch massif and includes the Zugspitze. My bad.

 

Can you point me in it's direction? Because I have seen the sign on the station and looked all around in that direction and cannot find a thing

 

Was confused the same way for a while. If you look carefully at the sign at the platform you'll see it's slightly angled, so cross the tracks and you'll see the next sign at the road junction.