Tsw6, Tsw7 , Tsw8 What Is It Need For?

Can it just STOP at train sim world 5? Why do we need every year a new tsw? This is just horrible to pay everytime for a new game while it is just exact the sam ebecause the routes you have of tsw4 or 5 are just the same. So why the hell do we need everytime a new tsw again? JUST STOP BY 5 AND NOT MORE!
Like tsw4 was not even done and tsw5 was released already.

 

Maybe there won't be a TSW 6. Maybe we will get another free update like last year given the massive backlash to TSW 4 being a paid update.

 

TSW 5 is just "updated" TSW4, also coming with three new core routes. If you don't want these routes you could just download TSW5 while it was free or go on with the older version of your choice. Then if they will call the next iteration TSW6 or not doesn't mean anything to me.

 

I can only think that a new version would be a design choice by DTG if there are core improvements which render older content partially incompatible, otherwise they are actually losing money by selling 3 new routes at a heavy discount. Of course, some new cash will be made by attracting new players through marketing.

 

doesn't make much sense, how should it be "done"? each new iteration comes with its set of delivered routes/trains and core features, I don't think you can "complete" an iteration. what goal should they set for that?

 

Even though it might be a free update, it's still a bit of a pain to download the new game and re-install all of your add-ons. I think the current game should just update to the new version every year, with the option to purchase the route bundle.

 

I seem to remember talk of a new titles showing up first in the stores. Just marketing.
Downloading all the content again is a pain in the arsenal!

 

Basically (or exactly) like TSC. You can purchase the respective TSW X and that‘s it. This will make it so much more attractive (the new features are still bound to the new routes like it is now)

 

I hope and expect TS6 will bring major updates for console users. Revisions to the scenario planner with the option to start and end a service from anywhere on the route is a must. We also need slow line looping and ability to add static formations in any location.

 

Edwin Starr 'nearly' summed it up quite nicely when he 'nearly' sang.........
"TSW More", "Huh"
"What is it good for?"
"Absolutely nothing"
"Say it again".

(Apologies to any music lovers out there).

 

The chances are the update will be free again, in which case they need to stop the ridiculous numerical increments requiring an install as an all new game. Plus having to redownload rather than just adopt existing DLC. Just give the game a “for life” overarching name that will continue to serve, oh here’s an idea… “Train Sim World”. No suffix, no prefix, just what it is.

 

DTG have previously explained why they keep making new games; we know their parent company also supports this which is probably why DTG released TSW4 & 5. I think the most we’ll get this year is a free starter pack again no matter how much backlash they get

 

The reasoning behind TSW2020 to TSW2 was upgrading UE versions. TSW2 lasted two years with the Rush Hour routes and core update released in the middle, then peaked with the long awaited introduction of steam traction right at the end of it's run. A lot happened during TSW2's time!

TSW3 added TOD4 and new lighting systems. Among a few other background upgrades to the core.

TSW4 & 5 on the other hand haven't really added anything majorly noteworthy that couldn't have just been a yearly core upgrade to TSW3. If you wanted to carry on with TSW4, you had to get around a paywall to get new updates.

TSW5 resolved this by making the game itself free to download for a period of time after launch, you were only buying the new routes in a bundle or individually if you weren't interested in some of the content TSW5 provided.

TSW5 only raises the question, why make a new numbered title in the first place? If we're updating free, there was no need to make an entirely "new" game and just update TSW4. Not to mention the whole numbering thing is starting to look silly and messy in our game libraries, then you have to download ALL of your content over and over again each year.

The fact is, it's all just unnecessary...

TSW3, TSW4 and TSW5 could've been major updates to TSW2 with us only swapping to TSW3 when DTG eventually drop 8th Generation systems. As I believe to drop full support of Gen8, they would need to release a Gen9 only game to do so.

 

Most likely there maybe a free starter pack which isn’t bad. You’ll be able to port all your existing route to the new simulator. And then add other in the near future. But then again there will be a time period when the deadline ends. But let us not forget before this happens dove tail direct gonna give out some clues. JD may be the host for this haven’t seen him for a while. Most of the content gonna carry to TSW6 just like TSW5. So what everyone think. TSW5 was a let down many but there will be flaws.

 

Just to make that clear, you dont want a new Tsw part because you have to pay for it and reinstall the content you own?
Just wondering because i can remember the Tsw5 base pack to be free for the first 4 months after launch? Or do you want to get the core routes for free which took a lot of work for them to make?
Additionaly you dont want to put 5 hours of your time into reinstalling your dlc, ONCE a year. Its not like it takes a week to do that. Reinstalling everything from Tsw 4 to 5 took me around 1 hour, maybe less.
Not to mention you basically get a bunch of new features too.

Also its very likely that tsw 6 will be gen 9 only so core and performance problems can be fixed more efficient and are less noticeable.

For what reason am i arguing here anyways? As long as there is no announce for a direct stream, there wont be a Tsw 6.

 

One of the main reasons is that an update to an old game does not attract new players whereas a new release does. It’s that thing where you need to place things right in front of people’s eyes to grab their attention. That’s why DTG go through the time consuming and expensive rigmarole of repackaging and certifying hundreds of DLC across multiple platforms for the new release instead of just doing a core update. They do it because it is necessary in order to maximise player numbers.

 

The main reason for releasing a whole new title, as was once stated by the EP himself, is that it can have a much bigger marketing campaign.

The other thing is that TSW6 will have one much more practical purpose - leaving Gen 8 behind. Several addons are already doing this so at this point it feels inevitable.

 

I’d rather they just made TSW as one game. Then you wouldn’t need to keep re downloading all your content every year. They could just update the title every year. TSW 2026 would be better than TSW 6.

DTG are just doing what WWE and FIFA do every year. Same game with a different number at the end of it and a wee change here and there…

 

My tinfoil hat theory is that TSW6 won’t be coming for some time, at least not this year. The only evidence I have for this is that on Steam, Dovetail took the time to update the the cover art for every piece of dlc to have the “train sim world 5” logo on it, instead of just putting “compatible”. They also organized all their dlc into lists based on country and if it’s a route or loco. That’s the first time they’ve ever done that for a tsw title.

 

Has TSW6 been announced?

 

Yes, but only me and you know about it…. :p

 

I'd be willing to bet that updating and recooking every DLC for each new TSW version is much more of a hassle for DTG than the download and install is for us, and they would welcome finding an alternative.

 

One thing's for sure. I won't be wasting my money on the " deluxe " version of TSW6 like I did last year with " 5 ", paying for 3 mediocre routes that I've hardly touched since. Plus paying for Cajon a second time.

I'll take the free upgrade and then cherry pick any future routes that I care to buy.

The smart players did that last time.

 

C’mon guys stop talking about TSW6, let’s talk about TSW32 VR instead.

 

If they don't port over Caltrain then I'm sticking with 5,
I'm refuse to loose a route I've paid for and I'm not going to run two games on two different save files either

 

It won’t be at the moment but they said that they’re actively working on it, honestly I can’t remember how many promises they broke, I’m quite pessimistic about it.

I won’t just install TSW5 for Caltrain and TSW6 and above for the rest.

 

Here we go again.

If they do the FREE core upgrade again then there is nothing to complain about unless you are unable to count beyond 5. The numbering is completely irrelevant to your gaming experience. I personally like the excitement of getting a batch of new routes and new core features every year.

Its a marketing concept used by many modern game developers which regenerates hype and interest (and I am guessing profits too ) in the game on an annual basis. Its the way things are done these days and after 5/6 iterations I don't see DTG changing that model anytime soon.

 

That's what I did for the PS5 version and I still didn't buy any of the three routes or Flixtrain etc. Well having done so for the PC, once bitten etc. etc. But, assuming this year follows the same pattern, then unless all three routes are supremely iconic and superbly built, or something like a return to steam traction with much improved physics then I might not bother. To be brutally honest I'm starting to feel fatigued with TSW (whatever version it is), even the Dutch route lost it's sparkle quite quickly. Same old bugs, quality issues with the let's make a quick buck - even the gameplay has lost it's lustre. New route, same old A to B grind, do the Journey, do the Mastery for a static feature or pointless sticker. Frankly it needs a new act.

 

I believe that, due to DTG no longer having the Caltrain license, that the Caltrain route will not carry over to any new TSW version.

Unfair to blame DTG for that as I believe Caltrain requested as such.

 

Im confident the Caltrain DLCs will be in the next iteration of TSW for those users that own them.

They did not remove any other DLC for licensing reasons, and I dont think it will be any different this time.

 

Yeah let’s hope it’ll happen:

 

Is it time to purchase a new season ticket for TSW6 or renew it for TSW5. We all find out later this year.

 

Fixing the bugs that was introduced by said iteration xd
I see your point, though

 

One thing I can promise you is that I would not purchase TSW6! If I could see they were trying to improve the game then of course I would consider it but the way I see it the game has never been such a worse condition than it is now and it is just getting worse and I am absolutely not paying any more money For content just to have the same issues

 

Fully agree whit stopping annual releases, they can receive money whitout launch new title every year, people are getting tired to re download all collection again and again

 

in this case i would save the actual version on external memory for when i want to play that route, if are not ported over next iteration

 

Well, for me at least, TSW5 is taking up 226.7gb on my hard drive, nearly 100gb more than my next biggest game. I have neither great internet, so it's fairly slow to download, nor a great PC, I mean it runs the game pretty well, but I make a concious choice not to having steam downloading in the background while I play games to maintain performance as well I can. Plus I will not run my PC at all while away from home or overnight - my electricity bill is high enough already. Then, of course, I play plenty games other than TSW, so I will pop those updates at the front of the queue while possible to keep enjoying those.

All in all, I think getting everything on TSW5 install when it released took me around a week. Honestly, I don't have an issue with releasing the game as a new title each year, on a sheer business level it makes sense, and having a shiny 'new' game to market is the best thing you can do to grow an audience, and I cannot begrudge them that. But, my word, is it getting tedious doing that download each year, especially when I've added a handful of add-ons in that time and that download grows by a few dozen gigabytes or so.

I don't know what the best solution is, obviously I can limit the initial download to the core game and a few favourite add-ons to get going to begin with, but at the end of the day, the game isn't getting any smaller and it would be so much more convenient to me to just have to download an update, rather than the whole thing... again.

 

There is barely ever a technical need, unless you change the Unreal version, but there are lots of commercial factors that have to do with the requirements imposed by the various platform owners. This is a bit sad though but a consequence of having a multi-platform game (which is great, if you cannot afford an expensive PC you can play on consoles).

 

Is there a way to only download selected DLCs in Steam? I couldn't see it.

Specifically, when installing TSW5 and already-owned DLCs from previous versions, I only see the option to download the lot.

 

Pause the download as soon as it starts (if you're re/installing the game). In the game's entry in your library, scroll down, click manage my [x] DLC (alternatively, right click TSW5, click properties and then click DLC), and uncheck the ones you don't want. You'll see the download size go down.

 

When you scroll down, there should be like a dlc manager on the right side that tells you which dlc you have. Check off the ones you don't want installed

 

I somehow never noticed this before! Thank you both.

 

If this is on PC then you still need to delete the associated pak files from your hard drive. Steam will not automatically do this.

 

Not if they haven't been installed. They were asking about when downloading the game from scratch.

 

Good point! Though you need to catch it before starting the download.

Anyhow if this situation arises again this year and if I decide to partake of the feast, I will be doing a severe triage of my DLC. Though again, due to DTG’s inefficient file management, sometimes you need the entire 8 or 9Gb DLC just to get a layer on a route you actually play.

 

TSW 6 will have a wide range promises installed, I mean new features that you don't know how you previously managed to survive without them????

We will get a selection of new shiney routes with new locos, a few changes to the user interface system, the training centre will now have a water feature...

We will get new promises to fix old problems, the core will be "better" less crashes, more micro stuttering etc.

And round it goes for another year!

 

I was, but the info about needing to manually delete the pak files is still valuable for those wanting to make space. So thanks for that!

 

back to the point, i've seen that the future will be 9 gen only, does that do something to my pc? (fx 4300 and gtx 1050 16 gb ddr3)
I don't know why they don't fix peformance, but just make the game heavier for hardware. DRA is almost same busy as frankfurt fulda but frankfurt fulda is on my pc not playeble while DRA is very okay to play.

 

I have a fairly old PC - I7 4770, GTX 1650 4Gb GPU and 24 Gb of RAM. It runs most games fairly smoothly but TSW can struggle. Though while I accept some of that is down to aging hardware, when titles like Forza 4 etc. run nice and smoothly some of it is also on DTG's code optimisation (or lack of). So part of me is a bit anxious when there are calls to start dropping older hardware. It's not that I can't afford to upgrade, I just don't see the need in this day and age to rush out and spend upwards of £1000 to replace hardware that is quite serviceable. You wouldn't chuck out a vacuum cleaner or washing machine that works fine even though a few years old, just to get the latest model from Bosch or Zanussi.