Cajon Pass

For anyone interested the patch today has fixed scoring you now get points for using safety system (Alerter) but still lost all my golds down to silver because they changed how many points you need

 

Anyone know what the update to the BNSF SD70 was? I can’t find anything about it in the patch notes.

 

I was wondering that exact same thing can't find anything about

 

Maybe it was also that you get points now since it’s a separate DLC?

 

Have they done this with any of the other old routes? I’m hoping Köln-Aachen gets this wihh to the new timetable. Currently playing Kassel Wurzburg a lot and there’s a couple of freight services where I’ve missed a gold by as little as 15 points which is very frustrating

 

No more older routes have been when it comes to scoring system

 

Also i wonder if they will sort out the scoring so I get all my gold i had a 100 gold all got down graded to silver or bronze that really did aynoy me all them hours i put into it.

 

I had 31 golds "downgraded" so I hear you. Unfortunately the opportunity to fix the threshold for gold just came and went with the update that fixed the scoring for "safety systems" (read: alerter). Since it wasn't fixed then, I have no further expectations that it will be fixed at all.

 

I’ve just realised this isn’t true as Nahverker Dresden has the new scoring system too. Any others?

 

Ooh thanks might reinstall that one now

 

Has anyone done this job Z-LACPHX6-05 from victorville to barstow I've several times and just puts on foot in random places this is on xbox

 

The number board lights are now finally working. A small detail that I've been waiting for since it launched. January 21st patch notes:

Cajon Pass

• Fixed an issue where safety systems prevented Platinum Medals being given.

• Fixed an issue with pixellated edges to cab windows.

• Fixed issue where saving and resuming a game caused banking to stop working.

• Fixed issue where locomotive number boards did not light up.

 

Anyone know if the scenario twilight train is fixed so cant higher than bronze

 

I have the same issue on PC. One of the 'on foot' spawn points is Victorville (may need a couple of 'restart service' to get there). I've had this before and just about had enough time to run to the train and 'take over' the service from the AI driver - then it completes. However, this one, i'm about 10 seconds short of time needed. i can board the train, but it's moving by the time i've faffed with doors, then can't take over the moving train. Worst case scenario, i take something else to Victorville, bail out (give up), and then fester until 05:16 where i'll take the service.

I'm another one who now has 31 silver badges, that i'm trying to get rid of/upgrade post recent updates.

 

You can complete this one to Platinum by hijacking the train. Bit harder in the dark. Just uncouple the lead engine while in motion to take control. Then you have to sit in the seat of the second engine to take control and the first engine with the AI driving off will come to a stop. Recouple and proceed on course.

 

Yes, thats exactly what I did in the end (and was going to post, but you've done it so thanks!). Also used the same tactic for another service i couldn't run to in enough time, but was able to leap up the steps before it got too fast. Thanks to all this faffage I've now completed the backlog and got rid of all the silver medals again.

 

So I'm guessing they are not gonna sort out the scoring system again so we can get back all our down grade gold medals

 

One thing I always wondered about Cajon Pass, is it really prototypical that such long, heavy trains would take the short track with such a steep grade?

 

Still not receiving points for using the safety on the SD70ACe i use the alerter thats all there is or am I missing something thanks.

 

Well the least steep grade of any of the tracks is 2.2% but it's the longest, so it comes down to time and horsepower. Trains do about 15-20 mph on the 3% and it's shorter.

 

Guessing depending on the train and weight of it, BNSF would probably keep their trains on track 2 and 3 if preferred, Amtrak I believe solely uses track 1.

 

Is is not so much going up those grades, since one can assume the motive power department assigns enough HP or TE to make the grade at a certain minimum speed.
Going down is more of a challenge and depends on weather, number of active DB axles, train makeup and TOB.
Read the very detailed requirements and restrictions in the ETT you can find on the internet.
Here is an example: http://www.multimodalways.org/docs/...F ETTs/BNSF CA & LA Divs ETT #3 3-26-2008.pdf

 

Why tne hell do the brakes keep coming on for reason when using the alerter

 

It's not the alerter, it's the cab signaling, which on the SD70 is bugged and has been since Sherman Hill. It hiis you with a penalty brake at 25 mph as if it's an overspeed. Just turn off the cab signaling completely, or turn it off temporarily when you're doing around 25.

 

When ever do a job now the loco is all set up for you all you have to do is turn banking coms on was always like that i cant remember.

 

ES44C4 always automaticaly applies full brakes after exceeding 25mph... is that a bug or am I doing something wrong?

 

Its something to doing with the in cab signaling if you user the alerter its a bug in think but if greens all the then its fine as soon as you get a yellow thats when it start to act up.

 

This signal bug is really annoying me now you have have turn of alerter about 3 miles from finish point or you just keep keeping penalty brakes sort it out DTG please.

 

Ctrl + or Ctrl - doesn't work. Can it be fixed?

 

Can anyome help me to done this, every time in random place on PC, maybe i need to load the timetable at a certain time?

 

PS5
Was there any mention of Cajon Pass possibly having platinum medal points etc after the spring update?

I'm running the Twinlight Train scenario in the BNSF SD70ACe DLS and I'm not getting more than 30 points and I'm definitely not getting 15900 for a gold medal.....

EDIT: I took the first scenario, I didn't check the timetable, so the timetable has a platinum medal rating, as I see, but unfortunately BNSF SD70ACe, even though I have the Cabsignal and EAD systems turned on, it still says Alerter is not turned on and it only counts 35 AP
Am I doing something wrong, or is there a bug?

 

Platinum only on ES44C4. SD70 is still broken and it is impossible to get platinum.

 

So currently the SD70 is suitable as an AI locomotive that's a shame

 

You can still drive it and enjoy the experience. The medal at the end is just fluff and the colour is not that important.

 

That's true, but for some people the color of the medal is also important, for example, you don't finish the journey with a gold medal.

 

I just don't pay attention to medals.

 

I've wondered several times why it's actually implemented there, without points and medals, life in TSW would be simpler.

 

By the way, yes. It seems like the level in the profile influences something.

 

It is possible. Also, SD70AC, it also has services at Antelope Valley, and there I came across another thing. When there is a warning on the signal, just yellow, it does not allow to go more than about 25 mph, otherwise the train will stop, is that correct? I do not know the American systems, but I have not encountered it elsewhere. Thanks

 

To be honest, I don't know. I drive with the HUD on.

 

Maybe we don't understand each other, I meant that some kind of security system in the locomotive is restricting me......

 

Safety systems at Cajon Pass, San Bernardino Lines and Antelope Valley are limited to Alerter only

 

It's possible, but there's still a Cabin Signal system in the SD70ACe and it probably doesn't work correctly, I tried googling it and found this thread, that's what I had in mind
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/sd70ace-and-ccs-stoppages.79295/

 

It certainly exists, but it doesn't work. I've driven through Antelope Valley, but I don't remember the system working.

 

Maybe it's not a bug, but I noticed that the speed signs are missing on the track monitor, or for example, I left Barstow, and after passing the first 50 speed limit, another one disappeared, showing 60.... and when I was driving from Summit towards Barstow, we also had problems with it, they mostly didn't show up... so I don't know

When I have the speed HUD turned on in the settings, i.e. it shows the distance to the next speed mark, it shows it correctly, but it is still missing on the trackmonitor

 

I noticed that 2-3 monthes ago. I didn’t submit a bug report about this, though. But I definitely remember submitting a similar bug last year about the different ways of tracking speed in Sand Patch Grade (both the HUD and the Track Monitor are displaying different wrong informations)

For Cajon Pass, I learnt to keep an eye on the right of the track for the speed indicators, and I manage to keep to speed limits.

 

I'm investigating it a bit, and when the Speed HUD and Signal HUD are turned on, it at least shows it a little bit correctly, but when, for example, only the Speed HUD is turned on, the signals disappear on the Track Monitor, when everything is turned on, sometimes the Track Monitor shows at least the position of the signal, but it's especially annoying on Cajon Pass ..... on Antelope and San Bernardino the Track Monitor itself shows it correctly, or so it seems to me ......
I probably won't be able to follow the real signs around the track, plus American railroads are very exotic for me, I can hardly navigate the signaling of the signals ....... it's completely different compared to Europe
It's a shame that the Cajon Pass map doesn't show any passenger traffic, at least in San Bernardino, I don't even know if there is any passenger traffic on the track itself in real life

 

I think the real life route is freight only. The passenger service uses a different set of tracks before reaching the Cajon pass summit.

As for the signals, it’s very tricky and I rarely get it correctly. I mainly use two rules :

• If there’s a green on top, it usually means you can go full speed
• If the green is lower, you should go a bit slowly (you probably will switch tracks)
• If it ain’t all red, it ain’t red at all (most useful, even a blinking red with a solid red underneath means go very slow)

For speed limits, you have to pay attention to the yellow indicators. When they are tilted, it means "prepare to slow to XX speed" and when they’re straight, it means the speed limit applies. They aren’t very big indicators, it’s a bit of a pain to keep track of them, especially when it’s raining.

 

only 2 passenger trains runs trough Barstow Daily
Southwest Chief Route Timetable | Amtrak

 

Do I understand correctly that between San Bernardino - Victorville -Barstow it follows the Cajon Pass map route?