So I was driving around with 146.2 (Frankfurt Fulda version), some REX service, and you get quite a lot of red signals and therefore 500 Hz magnets as result... so there is this particular one when you stop at Schwelm, before Ennepetal, and it is red... as you prepare to depart, it goes green, which means as soon as you pass the next signal and its magnet, you can release, by pressing appropriate button... this works on all other red signals and 500 Hz magnets, however, on this one it releases from the restriction automatically, which it shouldnt here is a screen while at station:
when you get 500 Hz before stopping (cos the next signal was red and you got within 250m towards it), when you start again, you are limited to 25 kph... if the red changes to green, once you pass its magnet, the safety system helper shows that you can release it, and your in-cab display still shows 500 Hz supervision... it shouldnt just release by itself unless you press PZB release button
well, once you get moving and red changes to green, then you can, but only as you pass the magnet... it should happen only by you pressing button, not automatically, as far as I know
Eine Befreiung aus der 500 Hz Überwachung ist grundsätzlich nicht möglich, wenn die 500 Hz Überwachung aktiv ist, also wenn ein Rot-Leuchtmelder angezeigt wird, insbesondere nach Anhalten. Wenn jedoch ein Anhalten nach einer 500 Hz Beeinflussung erfolgt, ist die Geschwindigkeit auf 25 km/h beschränkt, ohne Befreiungsmöglichkeit. Nach Anhalten ohne 500 Hz Beeinflussung, ist eine 45 km/h Beschränkung gegeben, die nach 700 Metern befreit werden kann
I know those rules the thing is, when you stop and get 500 Hz, and then you get moving, but the red changes to green, once you pass that magnet, you can release... but it should be manual, not automatic, as far as I know and in all instances it is, except that one signal I mentioned a couple posts above
Not really, I can understand what he means. He is referring to the fact that usually after you pass the now-green signal and magnet the 500Hz refers to, the 500Hz influence ends and the red light disappears. At this point you will often still be in the restrictive 45kph influence, which you can wait to run out or free yourself from. He's saying that at this particular signal only, it always seems to run out and return him to full line speed by itself right at the passing of the signal/magnet. It could be the case that this is somehow coded to happen with this signal, which would indeed be a weird bug, but I don't really know and cannot find data on how long (in space, in meters) the permanence of restricted mode should be, and starting from what (the entrance in restricted mode itself? the magnet that caused the original 1000Hz influence?). PS. it seems, from the same page you quoted that earlier part in German from, that "Wird nach einer 500 Hz-Beeinflussung angehalten, schaltet die Anlage in einen weiteren restriktiven Modus: Die folgenden 250 Meter (dies überbrückt den Abstand 500/2000 Hz-Magnet) dürfen mit maximal 25 km/h befahren werden." Which seems to imply even a different behaviour than TSW uses, weird....
By the way, double post but I can say that I tried the route (on free roam) just now, and it did not seem to do that when I triggered 25kph restrictive mode circa 250 meters before the red signal, so I don't think it's bugged. (was a bit hard to find as you said Schwelm before Ennepetal but that is right IN Ennepetal, BTW, is the screenshot even of the one signal you're talking about??). At the same time, the train though: 1- Went back immediately into 45kph mode after the signal, which kinda isn't what stellwerke.de says should happen, (but is correct according to TF-Ausbildung.de), and 2- It exited restrictive mode by itself around 200m after the originally-red signal, but that added to the circa 250m before the signal, where I entered it, means I did circa 400plus meters in restrictive mode, which again isn't what stellwerke.de says should happen (could not find any other site that mentions the length of restrictive mode to compare) Nevermind all of that ^ even, the second time I tried, but starting from before the previous main signal, I got exactly your bug myself too. I guess this place does have some problem...
you mean 25 kph, right? if you start from standstill, having previously gotten into 500 Hz, the restriction is 25 kph... if upon starting the next signal is yellow, you cant release, but the restriction goes up to 45 kph, if the next signal is green, upon passing the magnet you can release using PZB release button - which is what I did on all previous signals where I got 500 Hz, but as mentioned, the bug is that at this signal this happens automatically
